posted on February 11, 2007 at 7:55 pm

bonjour tristesse
oh i feel suddenly lighter….
like ive lost a heavy burden
that did press upon me sorely
i am unconcerned
i am detached
today i will swim n do xi gong n yoga
i will work on my painting of grant l
i will play around with my kids
i will make love with my wife
i will have my friends over
i will eat healthy food
that was not created from sadness n death
(for what else could it produce but that?)
i will raise my beautiful dutiful daughters
to be vegetarians
oh i wish you could see
eve n aurora
theyre both strapping girls
why they came 1st in 2nd in the marathon
and not one bit of meats ever passed their lips
and i will raise them to recycle
and to question authority
especially if its telling you to do something you know is stupid
and i will raise them to respect old people and to listen to them
and i will do my best to keep the tvs n computers turned off
and the artpaper n markers flowing
try n let them swim in the sea everyday
the ocean washes us so clean
and not just our flesh
im gonna try to inculcate in them
a knowledge of this earth
and what its worth
and what women are worth
and what men are worth
and the lives of ALL creatures
and i WILL teach them to detest war n the meat/death industry
because these are my heartfelt convictions
and because hideous meat kills hideously
i will endeavour to help them suffer the slings n arrows
of outrageous fortune
(you should hear the insults n malarkey ive had for being veg
since 1972)
i hope i can do something to offset the constant pressure on females
to be” sexy”
us men dont want it
we like you as you are
why why why dont you understand
throw away perfume n all that make up
no no no
elli n minna dont cover your youthful cheeks in powder blechh
oh be natural
daughters remember how i love you
and what i do for you
and dont allow any less from any man
and its dark n raining here today
a wondrous energy filled morning
sent by beautiful god
ha ha
i dont care if people know i believe in god
i dont care if people know i cry
i dont care if people know that sometimes im envious of other bands
i dont care if people stop reading my blog
or stop listnin to my records
cos i dont think they will…not all of em
cos who else does what i do?
none of em…right? not like me
and i never fuckin sold you out
i might have insulted you
but i never insulted your intelligence
and quite frankly
where are you gonna find another
modern renaissance man at this time of night?
you see
and i know you do
that ive been giving you everything here
to the very best of my ability
whether or not you subscribed
whether or not you agreed with me
hey aint i the first one to say that i say stupid things
have i ever told ya that i was infallible?
im just yer regular 52 year old ex-junky bohemian poet
slinging his jazzbass round this world
hooked up to a bunch of fiendss
in some kinda thing
i dont wanna define it..
look have they all gone now…?
can i really be judgemental now with my intimate coterie
my inner sanctum of like-minded n sympathetic friends
can i?
uh oh
i can feel the presence of some of em
still out there
saying they was pissing off
but uh oh
they snuck back in
maybe just to see if olde kilbeings gonna take a last potshot
at their lardy arses
(i guess that was it!)
go on then
git out of it!
you see they
despite everything
they do love me
attracted to me
cos only i got this thing
there are millions of others out there with there things too
why you got kevin shields
you got bono
or jonny greenwood
you andrew eldritch
and you got alex grey
and you got angela carter
and you got that italo calvino
and you got dante
of whom i am a partial reincarnation (ha ha)
you got your artauds
and yer mems
yer dudes from neptunes
yer sunnyboys
n yer ed kueppers
you got yer robert forsters n bernie fannings
you got yer angus n julia stone n yer arcade fires
you got yer proust n yer devoto
you got yer beck n yer becket
you got yer wolfmother n yer johnny foxx
none of em got my spin
which you just happen to like
unless you judged yourself judged
n pissed off
in which case youre not reading these words
anyway today
im gonna think about god
and im gonna think about how god would like me to live my life
and im gonna ask him for the power to make everything i do
more radiant more loving
and ask him to tone down my penchant
for getting all high n mighty
(esp when it comes to meat n “evolution” n war n etc)
and im gonna ask god to help me thru my art
to make this statement over n over
this is a wonderful universe we live in…now dont ruin it!
i think if people see the 1st part the 2nd part follows
now when i meet another man of my age
who can do what i do
with my newfound enthusiasm for life
can run around a stage for 2 hours
can keep producing the goods over n over
i mean i aint ever gonna dry up
im plugged in
i am a fucking electric prophet baby
telling ya one day no more meaty…uh ah no no
i tell you there will be revolt back into style
and people will expect all lyricists to churn out stuff as good as mine
ha ha
im on a real fucking ego trip here n it feels great..ha ha
im totally fucking mad baby
but so so so so
coldly sane
this analytical virgoan mind
this incredible library in my head of arcane tidbits n groovy tales
children you have but begun to glimpse inside my head
i demand a lot but i give a lot
i am the human you never met
i make so many mistakes
i heavy handed where i should be light
im docile when i should attack
but my aspirations…
they are sky fucking high
im that eccentric old uncle you never had
im a mythquoting pastel weilding velvet voiced idiot
and baby i fucking rock
so i know you forgive me for being steve sometimes
cos i could really be so much more than that
so i say let em go….
if theyre gone…
maybe we needed some changes here
i love you guys
i loved them as well
but if you cant agree on basic things
like everythings right to not be brutalized unnecessarily
and im sorry
but i just gotta laugh when people say
i dont respect their beliefs about eating meat
oh…its beliefs now is it…?
but silly me
i mean im preaching to the converted now
will be interesting to see my bloggecharte position plummet
but theres nothing as liberating as plummetting out of a chart
ask me im an expert
and oh dear im ranting again
the reason i want to stop the meat n the reason i avoid meat
is not for the wee animals
its for ourselves
so we can respect ourselves
so we can remain younger n healthier longer
so we can vibrate at this higher rate
because i was saying
give peace a chance
try it the easy way
im sorry if i judged em
but although harsh words are never nice
if i did convert one person
and ya know there were 3 or 4
who said yes sk
im back on the path
and if the demand for that little piglets flesh
and the sweet darling lambs
(how could those sadists eat a lamb???)
and the calves with their huge trusting eyes
and the chickens n geese n all feathered friends
if that demand slackens off by just 3 or 4 people
then surely it was worth it to send those others
off in their pseudo-huffs
theyll be back…
and you know
how gentle is your language sposed to be
when yer describing carnage
they eat the results of unspeakable horror
but wish not be admonished in violent terms
if you eat meat n read my blogge
i hope you are thinking about this whole thing
and if you like what i do
it is all informed by vegetarianism
i could have never written any of my things with meat in my system
and its getting urgent
read that list that guy posted yessaday
101 reasons
if none of them dont move ya
see ya at the barbeque during armageddon
so whaddya know
i started off peaceful
i got boastful in the middle
n ended up ranting n raving
just like the being you love
just like it always was
and will be
on n on
being in love

90 Responses to “a new morning”

  1. avatar
    isolde | 11 February 2007 at 9:20 pm #

    good morning sunshine

  2. avatar
    davem | 11 February 2007 at 9:32 pm #

    Sunday evening here.
    I love you Steve. Keep doing what you’re doing!!
    And you’re right – no-one does it quite like you do.
    EMS is fab and I’ve got my London and Brighton tickets.
    I hope Andy from Worcester is pleased with the namecheck!!!
    Love you more,

    Dave M

  3. avatar
    Tim | 11 February 2007 at 9:35 pm #


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    damien | 11 February 2007 at 9:52 pm #

    Somehow I don’t think people will stop listening to your music either, Steve.

    Anyone who was personally offended by the last few blogs needs to grab a little perspective.

  5. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 February 2007 at 9:56 pm #

    hey steve,

    i’ve been ‘thinking’ about it for a while. just read your blog from the past few days. had a good cry and converted.



  6. avatar
    craig1.618 | 11 February 2007 at 10:14 pm #

    i think back to when it all started falling into place for me personally………when the universe grabbed my attention and started divulging its secrets to me……when i finally started getting a handle on what was actually transpiring… i was a student for the first time and was being instructed and shown some hidden secrets that i had been unaware of or had forgotten… why i’d chosen this embodied illusion of physicality…..secrets buried in our collective…..and how things appear outta the blue and in perfect time……and when i pinpointed when it all started i thought of the serendipity of it all…….it was when i became a vegetarian…….the filters dropped…..i gotta look behind the veil

    i think it takes a personal revelation for folks to actually get it…….vegetarianism that is…….i realise that not everybody’s gonna get it now……perhaps in time….and that’s the last i’m gonna speak of it

  7. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 February 2007 at 10:25 pm #

    Thankyou Craig, your last line was I was trying to say yesterday. I meant I was going to leave the commenting to you all for a while (er, after this one 🙂 Don’t think you’d get rid of me that easily SK,

  8. avatar
    daydreamer | 11 February 2007 at 10:32 pm #

    Hello – I’ve been away from the computer for a few weeks so just now catching up. So you’re back on the veggie rant – good for you, SK, keep it up. I really have to thank you, for you have ignited a spark that’s been latent in me for many years, which has caused me to research this subject further. (recommended reading: The Omnivore’s Dilemma and Fast Food Nation) Anyway, I’m happy to say I’ve been about 99% animal-free for about four months now, and am leaning toward 100% vegan – meantime discovering a whole new world of wonderful, delicious foods.
    People, listen! its not too late. Meat really is bad for you. (I’ll reserve the rest of my rant for my own blog)


  9. avatar
    veleska1970 | 11 February 2007 at 10:40 pm #

    “look have they all gone now…?”

    i’m not gone, steve. it’s just that things were getting too ugly for me, so i thought i’d exit for a bit until things calmed down. it appears they have, and i’m glad it was quickly.

    you’re right~~there’s no one like you. 🙂

    lotza love….

  10. avatar
    Fandorin | 11 February 2007 at 10:44 pm #

    calvino’s cool!
    read “cosmicomics” 15 years ago…

    ..and now…

    this is something i thought about for years, and i would have made it reality if i were you….

    australia has always been my country of dreams… and as you mentioned Ed Kuepper – I’m TOTALLY in love with your version of Wide Open Road, and I thought – whatever aussie classic they might play, it should be Ed Kuepper’s “Everything I Got Belongs To You”. Think about it 😉

  11. avatar
    Samosanx | 11 February 2007 at 10:46 pm #



  12. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 February 2007 at 10:49 pm #

    Well i’m still here.
    I’ll just call you Agent Starling from now on.
    Have a good week baybee

    Dutch Pierre

  13. avatar
    the dean | 11 February 2007 at 10:51 pm #

    “and i will raise them to respect old people and to listen to them”…Hmmmmmm, may be easier to raise the dead.

  14. avatar
    ed in fl | 11 February 2007 at 10:55 pm #

    your tone today seemed a little more restrained…thank you.

    ed in fl

  15. avatar
    restaurant mark | 11 February 2007 at 11:14 pm #

    hey man…yeah, after yesterdays craziness i just wasn’t gonna comment anymore on the topic…didn’t want to fuel the fire. i feel peace coming back…

    “im that eccentric old uncle you never had
    im a mythquoting pastel weilding velvet voiced idiot
    and baby i fucking rock”
    that’s great…love ya uncle steve!

  16. avatar
    fantasticandy | 11 February 2007 at 11:22 pm #

    hi steve,
    the myspace site is starting to get
    a few visits thanks to your mention.
    cheers for that!
    you know i do it for the same reasons as you,i just wish i’d done
    it sooner!
    ‘the dudes’ owe you one, we’ll see if we can supply you with some herbal smoking mixture at islington.
    andy L.
    p.s. dave m: hope to see you there!
    p.p.s.another shameless plug:

  17. avatar
    corpseburgerlover | 11 February 2007 at 11:26 pm #

    yeah, your sycophants will be back for more abuse. They love being kicked and prodded, just like the poor animals in the pen. Lotta sad and deluded people on this blog, the host included. I’m not swearing off meat but I am cutting out all SK product from my musical diet.

    Me, I disconnect from YOU!!!

  18. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 February 2007 at 11:26 pm #

    Hey 10.26 am – Fuck off then – Cunt

  19. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 February 2007 at 11:42 pm #

    Bye Bye Coprseburger.

    You don’t come back now, yer hear..

  20. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 February 2007 at 11:43 pm #

    I have to agree…I’ve been sick for days being labeled a fuckin murderer, Cut my teeth on meat. Sorry. It was the way I was brought up. Never thought about it, never questioned it. Didn’t know how aweful it all is. You’ve given me something to think about, but I can’t listen to you music anymore, or support you any more. 19 years down the drain….Just don’t want to be a part of your sad procession. The world has to much aweful shit going on. I never came here to be talked at. I came for music not for politics. You are a really lost and insecure person.
    -carrion bird

  21. avatar
    mattdavison | 11 February 2007 at 11:55 pm #

    I am struggling people… I am a happless confused Druid.
    Just been to the local Doc..Ta deal with me old emotional challenges..That Friccin ol depression, ya see sk, bloggers I have a gambling addiction, I am an artist and actor..ask sk about my painting i gave him..I ve lost half a million hard..hard earned Nzbucks..worse than sks blow out on the gear post SFishy..countless relationships,etc ..Ya see I am a complex man battling myself and fighting the ugly war that is addiction, and my friends I truthfully tell you that with all the going’s on over here latley. I want a reprieve, the negitive slants push my volitile buttons..This is my sancturary..I am blessed with this man and his foils..his music, his love….and nevets I canne take it much more..Stay go, read?? I don’t give a fuc..JUst be positive..I need It , I deserve it..I been here in all my strange charactors, since Nov 2005 when the Killa started the prose-non fiction rant..I love does sockfacepuppetmunch, wamp, don’teatmeiamawobbagong, and not to say the least mattdavison

    That’s who I am I live at am troubled at the moment, I want people to be feed,to be happy..and not to think its ok to come here and cause indignation.

    ps* some Gp’s have no fuckin idea eh!
    love Md

  22. avatar
    annikajones | 12 February 2007 at 12:10 am #

    Hey, someone keeps mentioning Wide Open Road (one of my all time favorite songs, at that) and El Momento Siguiente in the comments of every post lately… and I haven’t bought any actual, physical records since I registered to iTunes (can’t keep track of cds anyway, I’m hopeless), so I keep going “Argh! Why is it not on iTunes?”

    So… why is it not on iTunes?

  23. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 12:18 am #

    whatever morrissey……

  24. avatar
    Celticat | 12 February 2007 at 12:25 am #

    Rant on Steve, let it flow – it’s all good.

    Love Celticat

  25. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 12:29 am #

    stop embarrassing yourself…. the music is so good , why ruin it with this hippy shit…..

  26. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 12:31 am #

    Mechanical birds of prey, sing for your Emporer. And keep on sending those paypal donations to buy his new clothes.

    There ya go everyone, there’s yer Heyday story.

  27. avatar
    steve kilbey | 12 February 2007 at 12:34 am #

    i told ya they were still here…..

  28. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 12:48 am #


    I’m not saying i’m a vegy yet but i’m trying, the whole weekend almost no meat. Even had a couple of vegy burgers!!! I’m gonna have to research some meal option’s to sustain the run.


  29. avatar
    Centuryhouse | 12 February 2007 at 12:52 am #

    Steve said:
    “that ive been giving you everything here
    to the very best of my ability
    whether or not you subscribed
    whether or not you agreed with me”

    And what more can we ask? That’s good enough and better than most people do, even in their own blogs.

    I enjoyed your blog today. You spoke the truth as you feel it in a persuasive way that doesn’t attack anyone. It attacks the travesty that is the subject, not those who are still caught up in it. Your words may even convince a few more people yet…that’s not a bad thing.


  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 1:02 am #

    If you came to my house, out of respect to you, I would only make vegetarian food. For all of us not just you. And if I came to your house I would expect only vegetarian. I’m sure you’d have some great food. Come to think of it, would you consider putting some recipes on your blog? That may help in converting some folk? I am always on the lookout for some healthy recipes.

    You make some good points but in the end people will always make up their own minds.


  31. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 1:03 am #

    Killa, you’re not naive enough to think just cos people buy/listen to your music, they’re buying your whole trip?

    if you do, then you’re lucky you’ve got your inner sanctum-onious flunkies to stroke your Vanity.

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 1:24 am #

    Yeah, what a surprise…you shit on your fans and call time out, thats it on the subject. It dosen’t really work that way. But hey you heard my point, so i won’t bore you. You don’t get it both ways.
    -carrion bird

  33. avatar
    CAPTAIN BEYOND | 12 February 2007 at 1:40 am #

    yeah bout that heyday story, what’s up with that???

  34. avatar
    stealthblue | 12 February 2007 at 1:56 am #

    Right on, right on, RIGHT ON!! Top o’ the morn to you, Steven, lover of life.

    Did everyone get all nice and hosed off from the mud-slingin’?! My goggles got scuffed!

    Hey, I actually second that request for recipes, if you have any to share. Yeah, I have books and such, but just curious if there are any true Kilbey specialties.

    Hope you have a great day and I just want you to know that I simply enjoy watching you grow as a human bean…it just gives me hope that’s all. See you soon…
    Ben V.

  35. avatar
    Brian | 12 February 2007 at 1:57 am #

    Hey Steve, chalk me up as another convert (at least, I’ll try). I don’t eat much meat at all (maybe one burger a week and regular ham sandwiches) but I bought some tofurkey and tempeh at the store tonight instead of ham and chicken, and I’ll see how I go. It’s the right thing to do and I can’t think of any more excuses not to try it. Thanks 🙂

  36. avatar
    fawn | 12 February 2007 at 2:07 am #

    Oh my God! I’ve just read the last few blogs and I have tears in my eyes at the descriptions. I was invited to go to Amanda Vanstone’s Piggery in Adelaide a few months ago for undercover investigation. I know I’d just spontaneously combust so I declined. When I saw the footage that was taken I was in such rage I couldn’t move. These pigs were in stalls SMALLER than their bodies. Their bodies were spilling out of the stalls and this is not illegal!!!! They were still attempting to move from side to side, just a tiny movement of their head is all they could manage. They had huge open sores and ulcers where their bodies moved constantly against the metal bars. My friends said the pigs welcomed the little pats under the chin -a second in their miserable lives of human compassion and my friends sat there with them chained to those bars, looking into their sad eyes.
    Steve, thank you for your honesty and having the courage to express it to such a mixed crowd!
    Just got my copy of el momento. I love all I know, november, chromium.

  37. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 2:13 am #


    love ya

  38. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 2:24 am #

    Mmmm, I think I just achieved the unbearable lightness of Being myself.
    Does Nick Cave blog?

    Fare thee well Steven

  39. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 2:42 am #


    longtime lurker here….

    for years now i have (and still continue to) gleam tremendous inspiration from your songs, and the crunch and all your solo records (make another one soon!) and i also enjoy your blog and learning (reading) about (all) your daughters, and your memories, and tales of your dad (hi slim) and anecdotes about your mum (don’t curse!!!!!) and learning little insights into your family, and i always enjoy your automatic writing and hearing silly stories from your past about el church touring and the ploog getting his paisley shirt stitched up in italy at the hotel when you were all treated like royalty, and the tale about the slow crack in your house, and (speaking of) i always thoroughly dig listening to some of demos you knocked out in bedroom studios on mansfield st, and i’m incredibly happy that the days of you having a rough patch in atlanta before the gig are no more (i saw you on that tour and earlier ones) and i always get a kick out of reading how much you love doing your laps in the pool at bondi, and the story about being afraid of the sharks while swimming off shore was very funny and honest, and…. in general…. it’s just great to be able to jump on here and read what’s going on in your life and your beliefs… thoughts…frustrations…pleasures…hopes…dreams… etc…

    with all that said, i also happen to eat meat….

    and i’m going to continue to read your blog, and buy (!) your albums, and listen to your music, and (as i have for years) tell my friends about what a great band you guys are, and i still plan to support el karmic hit, and i’ll keep on wondering why marty throws so many tantrums on stage, and i’ll get just as much pleasure tonite listening to judgement day as i did the day unearthed was released back in ’87, and i think uninvited like the clouds is a f*cking great record. hell, i might even send you a few $$ via pay pal sometime too. maybe.

    somewhere in the usa

  40. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 3:13 am #

    thank you so much sk. eight years i was veg. 6 years back to the meat.has it really been that long? an experiment turned wrong. i dunno. been waffling for months now. wanting to go back. i mean how can you put all these delicious anti-oxidant wonders into your body one moment and chase it with fried turkey. i dunno. how can you be vegan and put heroin into your body. i dunno.
    but i thought you’d be pleased that i am back to veg. no really. back and not looking back.

    yes, more bedroom demos please
    you never did have taste in your own material. we all know that.
    i think marty suffers for his art.
    maybe that’s why the tantrums.
    uninvited and forget yourself are going to be long term girlfriends for sure. can’t wait to see you back in the states. how about another solo and gilt trip album.

    i’m awake again now sk,
    catch me if you can,

  41. avatar
    a2 | 12 February 2007 at 4:02 am #

    whoa – sk – methinks you need to move on from the badness of the meat industry to the goodness of meditation – these people have got to learn to relax – I’m just about exhausted reading some of the stuff they come up with – anyway for those that have not yet indulged can I please suggest obtaining latest pressing of that most wonderful record (now CD) from 1982 and just listen to the production – we love electric but the acoustic guitars are superb – as with all the cherch records since the blurred crusade it sounds as contemporary now as the day it was released – um 25 years ago march 25 1982 – please sk can we have something to mark the occasion – the album played live in it’s entirety by the band (move over r waters), or the famous duo, or solo, or mimed, or um dissected in detail on the time being or….anything?

  42. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 4:09 am #

    Nope…I won’t go quietly. I come here because I’m a big supporter of the music of The Church – was pleased to get my copy of el momento siguiente through cherch merch this very week. But I am surprised to be ridiculed for not sharing your choice in lifestyles. Still, it’s an interesting strategy…limit the consumption of animal products by attacking your core audience. And the embarrassing commentary from the “if you don’t like it then leave” crowd is pure redneck 101. So this is where the Bushy supporters have gone! At your request, I’ll remove this blog from my favorites because I eat meat …so you can all sing the same song together and call us meat eaters some snobby name, which does nothing to help your cause. You are a gifted artist and a cruel host. And you’re fired.


  43. avatar
    Belfrank | 12 February 2007 at 4:18 am #


    Glad to see you are working on a Grant painting – Did you know it would have been his birthday today too?

    I hear ya on the meat stuff, but it’s hard to cut out totally being married to a French lady and all that. Getting closer to conversion tho. Trying to get my life back on the right tracks too and living in the States is making me hyper aware of the importance of checking out what’s in your food.

    I don’t give a f**k if you judge me for bein a carnivore – I never judged you as a junkie and you know that – but that’s a whole nother matter.

    You’re still the best all round creative hippy I know, and The Church just keep astounding me more with the quality of each release.

    Just don’t turn into Morrissey on us 😉

    Have a great day SK.



  44. avatar
    Celticat | 12 February 2007 at 4:41 am #

    Hi Steve,

    OK – it’s lunchtime and I’ve finally got some time to digest the last few bloggs and the responses.

    Firstly I’ll qualify myself. I am not a vegitarian however, I eat very little red meat. I eat poultry and fish and bit of reed meat for nutitional balance.

    I admire those that have the strength of their convictions as I belive you do Steve and probably most of the TBbloggees and I think that heated passionate discussion is a wonderful thing as long as each person recognises that every other person is entitled to a diffrerent opinion.

    I’ve watched a loved one die slowly over a period of four years and I can tell you that though I used to suffer from lust gluttony avarice sloth and vanity, watching love die in front of you gives you a very different perspective on life.


    Lust – get over it, and replace with passion, or just being plain horny, lust smacks of wanting to do something to someone that you shouldn’t.

    Gluttony – Glttons get fat (usually). Don’t want to be fat or a glutton? – then don’t.

    Avarice (from Lat. avarus, “greedy”; “to crave”) is the inordinate love for riches. Its special malice, broadly speaking, lies in that it makes the getting and keeping of money, possessions, and the like, a purpose in itself to live for. It does not see that these things are valuable only as instruments for the conduct of a rational and harmonious life, due regard being paid of course to the special social condition in which one is placed. It is called a capital vice because it has as its object that for the gaining or holding of which many other sins are committed. It is more to be dreaded in that it often cloaks itself as a virtue, or insinuates itself under the pretext of making a decent provision for the future. In so far as avarice is an incentive to injustice in acquiring and retaining of wealth, it is frequently a grievous sin. In itself, however, and in so far as it implies simply an excessive desire of, or pleasure in, riches, it is commonly not a mortal sin………..WTF!!

    Sloth – get thee off thy arse!!!! It’s pretty f&^%kin’ simple.

    Vanity…….smells like lack of self confidence.

    I try not to be too introspective these days cos I figure we’re all in great danger of disapearing up our own arses. Life just ain’t meant to be that complicated.

    Steve, love your blogge, enjoy reading the comments daily and think it’s great u got that fire in your belly. Just happy to be part of TB community.


  45. avatar
    Peter Podcast | 12 February 2007 at 4:43 am #

    Hate the sin but never the sinner.
    Or the singer!

  46. avatar
    kat | 12 February 2007 at 5:24 am #

    sk, you’re a king mixer. thanks for sharing ;]

  47. avatar
    nic | 12 February 2007 at 5:24 am #

    SK – keep on doing what you do – let the disgruntled leave – cest la vie…
    and baby u do still fucking rock


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    ...being here, doing this... | 12 February 2007 at 5:36 am #

    LEAP OF FREEDOM – A lone dolphin leaps through the air late in the evening, as the sun is setting; dolphins are famous for their acrobatics, and are thought to be the most intelligent animal on Earth.

    Photo by – Another Bloomin’ Steve!

    “To the dolphin alone, nature has given that which the best philosophers seek: Friendship for no advantage. Though it has no need of help from any man, it is a genial friend to all and has helped mankind” – Plutarch

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    cita | 12 February 2007 at 5:39 am #

    The usually green, black, and white of your blog had started to change into a blood red. I was getting scared to open up TB for fear of finding more blood and gnashing of teeth. I knew by today inner calm would be restored… all is well in the world again isn’t it? Soothed by some sweet Steve words. A ritual cleansing is good for us all. Anyway we are all the better for it. Linger in the land of love a bit longer the other place is not a happy one.

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    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 5:54 am #

    Well, i still love ya.

    i love this life with all the pratfalls pitfalls and Niagra falls
    and i’m glad you and i are in it.


  51. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 5:56 am #

    hey kilbey, play the ball, not the man. you speak the truth, but at what cost to you? all that acid and bile will eventually do more than wear your teeth away.

  52. avatar
    sue cee | 12 February 2007 at 6:06 am #

    Inspiring people with ‘a foot in both camps’ (guilty) to question their ways and gradually shuffle that foot across to the same side has got to be pretty satisfying for any writer being.


  53. avatar
    mime | 12 February 2007 at 7:08 am #

    i told ya they were still here…..”

    Well, that doesn’t surprise anyone, does it? And I won’t go away either. I’m no idiot, am I!

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    anam cara | 12 February 2007 at 7:12 am #

    seeing as though we don’t get to talk much these days, i was wondering….

    is tristesse your muse within or an external force

    and what are you reading the doodles at the moment?

    and just to let you know
    i think hearing you speak your truth
    is inspiring


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    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 7:15 am #

    For those who didn’t get the chance to watch it, you can download The Church – Live at the Basement (2006) via bittorrent. Is an awesome live performance and worth the download (it’s just under a gig in size). When done please leave it seeding for a long long time.

  56. avatar
    anam cara | 12 February 2007 at 7:25 am #

    or is your last title
    a tribute to Carl Sagan

    hello goodbye
    here comes sadness hello grief?


  57. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 7:33 am #

    Most people are morons. You are not one of them.

    -unknown blogger

  58. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 8:09 am #

    Dear Steve, I whole-heartedly agree and I have great admiration for your passion and conviction.
    Perhaps the future will bring a more enlightened world.

    c escherbach

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    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 8:15 am #

    Sue Cee, you’re a gracious woman. Good luck however it goes :’) CenturyHouse, thank you too.

  60. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 9:12 am #

    Haven’t eaten meat since I was old enough to say hell no to my parents and not get a smack in the teeth.
    Never missed it and never get so much as a passing thought about eating it – cos even as a little kid I hated the fucking taste of it.

  61. avatar
    Grant | 12 February 2007 at 9:39 am #


    if you can convince the lads to dust off “unsubstantiated” for the castlemaine gig, then i’ll go veggo.
    see ya then!



  62. avatar
    MarkM | 12 February 2007 at 9:57 am #

    Well said Sue C.

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    lily | 12 February 2007 at 10:29 am #

    Good morning SK!

    I respect and admire your stance and your passion. I’ve had to deal with the inane questions and insults regarding vegetarianism too (Midwestern U.S. – lots of farming here). I’m so glad I’m veg and proud of it. I can enjoy that sense of peace that George Bernard Shaw spoke of. Just know that some of us fans/readers are right there with ya.


  64. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 10:42 am #

    I have a question not related to anything here, but I’m going to ask all the same.

    I have the opportunity to purchase a Kramer bass: aluminium necked, forked headed stock. Can’t find any info for it online..relying on any good bass players here to fill me in if they can. It has been suggested to me that it’s worth AU$5000, but I’m somewhat sceptical.

    Anyone got any info or advice? SK? Anyone? Would be much appreciated. Reply through here or

    God bless you all.


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    Con | 12 February 2007 at 11:51 am #

    Daniel do not publish comment that is not fact. All your knowledge about Gary Webb comes from the one source and is hopelessly outdated.

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    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 12:01 pm #

    I think the above sentiments (re: facts) could apply to everyone….I mean everyone! How much of what has been pumped through this blog is fact? Everybody getting all hot and bothered about a lot of stuff that is all heresay.

    From now on we demand references that can be checked! (Especially from MTV the conspiracy theorist)Just because a journalist wrote an article on something or a fanatic pulished a book don’t make it fact, people…find out for yourselves.

    St T

  67. avatar
    eek | 12 February 2007 at 12:18 pm #

    I like that you have been so open with your thoughts and feelings, even if you know some people aren’t going to like it. I like that you push us to think about things that aren’t always comfortable. I like that you expect a lot of yourself and I like and respect that you don’t back down from your convictions.

    Of course you’re wrong about evolution, but everyone has something they’re delusional about. 😉

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    Richard | 12 February 2007 at 12:20 pm #

    I used to spend a lot of time in my youth trying to ‘convert’ people to your stuff

    after a few modest successes over several years, I gave up – despite my conviction that you blokes are true masters of your craft

    ever since, you’ve been a constant but (my family aside) essentially secret part of my life

    well, in the spirit of doing stuff that I know I should be doing, I think I might just start evangelising again

    yeah, yeah I KNOW there’s other things I could thinking about doing – but this is surely something

    …for the time being anyway

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    12str | 12 February 2007 at 12:44 pm #

    i guess that there are a couple of subjects brought online in this blog that are more provocative than others…veggies,drugs, my opinion this is a vitality sign…i cant understand why some people get so aggressive…must be some sort of guilt involved in this…wrongdoers aware of their wrongdoings…small people using attack as their best defence….is it so hard to change? the will to constantly learn and reconcider is the right way to evolve as a human…what are we if we cannot learn from our mistakes….we have to be humble in our view of the world….your/our way is not always the right way….we have to have an open mind….
    kilbey is not a god…he is a good human….respect man!


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    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 1:54 pm #

    Nothing in the world gets people mad like vegetarians…I’ve never known why. Personally I don’t preach, I just want to eat my food in peace, but I get all kinds of snide remarks and always have. Perhaps in the back of your minds you know we’re right?

    Nonetheless, you eat your foods and we’ll eat ours, and we’ll try to get along, no?


  71. avatar
    balonymous | 12 February 2007 at 1:54 pm #

    lets fight about the War Machine next! I’ll start, on the side of “Western Civ is NOT to blame,” then you can all pick sides, “is” or “is not.” Ready?

    Without the War Machine of the democratic countries, China and Islam will destroy all of us. Western artists and homosexuals will be thrown into woodchippers alive; Western believers in deities will be field-stripped with rusty machetes for their faith; tribes of native people (aboriginals, ‘native’ Americans, Mayan remnants, chinook, etc) who’ve been protected in tribal pockets by wealthy and guilty Manhattanites will be slaughtered into extinction.

    Yer soft modern dekadance is built on the War Machine. “Who’s gonna teach me… peace and happiness?”


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    Jen Jewel Brown | 12 February 2007 at 2:21 pm #

    ello killer. just copped a listen to the Brett Whitely CD, where you read Arthur Rimbaud, a Season in Hell. The album of Brett’s music to paint to, that Wendy put together posthumously. What a great listen it is. I visited Brett’s studio in Sydney in January, it’s open weekends – please anyone reading this, go see it if you’re in Sin City, please do. What a sheer delight to get that close to such a gifted artist. The studio feels like Brett just stepped out for a coffee.

    Man, that spoken word is really, really beautiful work Steven. The clarity in the Englishness cuts across the adventurous Australian in your voice, adding intrigue. There’s great depth in the timbre. The subtle twists and turns of the narrative pull you with them. Brazen, tempting, glorious tumbling sensations of poetry, visions, heaven and hell… Readers, find this album if you can. What a gem.

    Courtesy of Ian McBryde’s collection

  73. avatar
    Tim | 12 February 2007 at 2:27 pm #

    Dear Mr. Kilbey,

    Thanks for the music and blog!!

    Tim from Sellersville

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    Daniel12 | 12 February 2007 at 2:31 pm #

    Dear Con.

    Of course your absolutley right.

    Ex popstar memoirs are seldom reliable and one shouldnt beleive
    anything from a book published
    almost five years ago. Even if you know the author.

    I’m not wrong on Gary Numans meat eating though. He’s talked about it in interveiws.

    But as for the unsubstanciated flatulence story.

    I unreservedly apologise if i’ve offended you, Gary Numan or anyone on this blogg sight.

    It’s just that I’d allready thrown in my anti meat rant on friday night. By sunday it was all getting a bit nasty and I was just trying to lighten the mood. I thought perhaps a good old fart story might do the trick.

    Sorry if it was a bit low brow for yuz all.


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    Anonymous | 12 February 2007 at 2:32 pm #

    hi steve,
    just want to say hi, really. been a while. i am still reading, just too little time to respond. but really like this idea of passing your values on to your children…i think alot about this these days..

  76. avatar
    Queen of Sheba | 12 February 2007 at 2:37 pm #

    Re-read my comment. I found Sue C’s comment to be disrespectful as if Steve Kilbey has some sort of dreamy and unrealistic perspective on life. I was simply wanting to defend him as I believe he is shining a light on the horrors of modern society. For that he should be praised and not belittled.
    Don’t tell me what to do.

    Thanks Anonymous 12:56, you are spot-on.

    Anonymous 12:40,

    Shearing wool incurs a physical pain and psychological stress on the sheep. They should be left alone.

    What are the goats for? How do you know they’re happy? Did they tell you?

    Farming animals is not environmental.

    Greetings, Anonymous 7:01, I’m here to stay.

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    mtv | 12 February 2007 at 3:04 pm #

    St T,

    you said “how much…is fact?” and it’s “all heresay”.

    Fact is: you need to kill an animal before you can eat its flesh. Don’t believe me? Want a reference? Visit a slaughterhouse and ‘find out for yourself’.

    As for reading articles and books, yes, I do a lot of research, but that only serves to confirm my own personal experience. I was a meat eater for 18 years. Then a vegetarian for 13 years. Now a vegan for 7 months. I’ve done it all and trust me, life is better as a vegan. But hey, don’t believe the conspiracy theorist. Go vegan and see for yourself.

    Best wishes!

  78. avatar
    John Garratt | 12 February 2007 at 3:47 pm #

    What should I eat for lunch today?


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    fantasticandy | 12 February 2007 at 4:08 pm #

    SUNSHINE: you got it 100% right, he
    really IS the guy you wanted him to be.
    persephone2u: thanx for the tips!
    NEVETS: i am the ‘stalin of vegetarianism’ is the most absurdly
    funny thing i have heard in a long,
    long time.
    love to ya all,
    andy L.

  80. avatar
    CeciliaGin | 12 February 2007 at 4:50 pm #

    My Monday morning was plagued by all technology going wonky, by kitchen sinks going dry…then I remembered free brekky and a cuppa coffee made things better. THEN I tuned into Nina Simone and Images of a Wayword Soul and dontcha know? The sun came bursting through those clouds!
    Sometimes music is the best witchcraft there is.

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    daydreamer | 12 February 2007 at 5:52 pm #

    Count me as one who respects you for sticking to your convictions and not pandering to your audience.

    I like the recipe book idea. You and NK could put one together and market it through KH. Your fans would eat it up – hee hee!

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    gator | 12 February 2007 at 5:53 pm #

    Does meatless mean cheeseless? ‘Cause I think I could go without meat, but my God man, I love cheese. What if I buy me own goat and treat her nice? But I don’t have a yard for grazing. I can’t live on peanuts and salad forever.

    And what about a bit o’ fish? Avocado sushi isn’t too filling.


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    eek | 12 February 2007 at 6:06 pm #

    gator — vegan means no animal products, which would include cheese. Vegetarian generally means nothing an animal needs to be killed to provide, so fish would be out, but cheese acceptable.

    (and depending on where you live, you might not talk too much in public about treating your goat nice. You might get branded a perv. 😉 )

  84. avatar
    Daniel12 | 12 February 2007 at 6:50 pm #

    Dear Balonymous.

    Re.The war machine. Towel heads and Chinga’s wanna woodchip us alive.

    How much duz this war machine cost?. How much much human energy duz it waste ?.

    Let’s just take Iraq for example.

    The united states alone has spent over 160 billion dollars on this war. Im over listing horrors at the moment, but if you think it hasn’t created some people who hate us you’ve got some serious doublethink going on.

    At the risk of sounding like the biggest hippy here let’s imagine that money was spent on something else.

    What else could you do with 160 billion dollars.?

    For a start you could green the deserts, end disease, hunger, mass extinctions etc etc.

    In short you could make this place a helluva lot better than what the war machine has given us.

    Whats more it would be pretty hard to hate any nation/people behind such a benevolent act.

    Yeah I know this propably sounds a bit extreamist to ya but maybee you could just start by imagining a few billion.

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    Sunshine | 12 February 2007 at 7:26 pm #

    Fantasticandy/AndyL: Thank you.

    daniel12: Can I have just 1 billion? I can’t even fathom a fraction of that much dough in one place.

    SK: Ahh, the calm after the storm, like the scent that lingers in the air after a good rain. I can appreciate imperfect beings, especially since I’m one of ’em. I particularly admire imperfect beings who are receptive and recognize their mistakes, learning from them, as we all should. You’re right, nobody does the thing you do quite like you do it. Even if they come close, they certainly don’t allow themselves to communicate like this with their fans. You leave yourself open for the nasties, though, and many artists would pack it in rather than deal with them. I have lots of respect for that.

    Example: Duran Duran (one of my favorite bands) just closed their official (free) message board on due to negativity and nastiness among fans, and disrespect to the band’s family (!). There was one time a few years back that they tried to post as themselves on said board and they got roasted to a crisp. Nobody believed it was them! That board was active for seven years, but it was such a nightmare they couldn’t get anyone to moderate it well enough. Aside from the odd chatroom adventure and “Ask Katy Q & A,” they have never opened up to have a dialogue with fans on the web (aside from John Taylor who used to do Poetry chats in his solo, lean years). The band only have one-sided communication, because grown people are childish and go into hysterics. Ridiculous.


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    davem | 12 February 2007 at 8:19 pm #

    Sunshine…’tis a small world.
    I went to the same high school (Woodrush) as Nick Rhodes (Bates) – he went out with my best mates sister – and John Taylor grew up a mile away from me…Dyas Raod or Simon Road?
    Wish I’d grown up next to Kiiiiilllllbbeeeeeyyyyyyyy!!
    Nothing comapres to The Chrunch.

  87. avatar
    Sunshine | 12 February 2007 at 9:00 pm #

    Thanks davem,
    Gonna show the geeky level of my fandom… Simon Road, I believe. *blush* Was gonna tell you about another connection w/ Bates/Rhodes, but afraid to after the first admission. Anyway, how bizarre, wonderful and comforting to know that this big ol’ world isn’t so big after all.


  88. avatar
    JJ | 12 February 2007 at 11:41 pm #

    I’m here, and will continue to be in the Time Being for as long as the Time Being bloggs. No sensibilities injured here; I happen to agree but not because it’s SK ranting. This link keeps me connected even when traveling in distant central american jungle-cities.

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    cook-seeking ms-ile | 13 February 2007 at 1:43 pm #

    ta 4 links..
    next 4 ‘Killer & Nat’s Vegan Rock’n’Roll Kitchen’

    – the show
    – the book

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    joe burns | 1 June 2007 at 7:09 pm #

    Hey SK – not sure if you see/read the old comments or not. I fell off ye olde blogship for a few months and have been going back reading/catching up on things and just came across this one. Take heart that you converted me. And not just musically, i mean vegetatively. I took up Buddhism back in 91. But could never make the jump to giving up meat. It wasn’t until the tail end of last year, and largely due to reading your thoughts on meat that I first decided to try it as an experiment. And lo and behond it stuck. And I’m now Meat free!So buck up old druid. You matter.

    By the way, i got a copy of Fruit Machine and loved it. Especially loved how the anecdote about the feedback at the beginning of I Feel Fine has stuck and resonated in your brain. It’s a remarkable little 20 seconds of musical history isn’t it?!

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