posted on March 14, 2007 at 9:18 pm

lifes a gas
i hope its gonna last
have to laugh at geezer from yesterdays comments
who says i dont understand
who says im steve naive
cos i dont understand the torture
cos i write in my blogge
“does it have to be this way?”
is davey hicks such a bad guy
does he so threaten the “civilized” world
that hes treated worse than a dog for 5 years?
see the geezer from the comments
he doesnt understand either
and he doesnt know why
it just makes him feel comfortable to think
that someone must know what theyre doing
with all the war n torture
leave it to the experts…eh?
whatta joke thatta stupid songwriter
could know anything about it, eh?
for godsake let the songwriters write songs
and let the torturers torture
thats what we got em for…
ordinary people like kilbey cant understand
war and torture
the balance of power
detente n brinkmanship
jesus, kilbey
go write yer stupid song
leave torture alone!
what do you know?
tell us about the heyday shirts!
sheesh! enough with the torture
as if a songwriting potsmoking turkey
like you
could understand the brilliant strategies
of the the torturers n their bosses
just like vietnam
i spose kilbey didnt want vietnam neither
and then where would we be?
imagine if we hadnt had vietnam?
no freedom
no liberty
does he think all those young soldiers died for nothing?
god imagine if they let kilbeys type run the world…
fucking useless
we’d have chaos!
hed let our enemies walk all over us!
wed all be speaking iraqi by now
and riding camels to work
and i feel much better now soddem hussein is hung
he deserved it! the barbarian
he sat back in the comfort of his palace
and killed innocent people
and invaded other countries
that were nothing to do with him
he had the massive destructive weapons
(or he wished he did!)
and damn! im glad weve gottem ourselves
cos we know when to use em
and he didnt
so we had him n his sons executed
to show the world what we think of murderers!
how could kilbey understand this shit?
obviously….he couldnt!

yeah just like the witch trials and inquisition
and the crusades
and that lovely hundred years war
why why why?
its the same type
doing it over n over n over
us ordinary folks
we stand back n feel lucky if it isnt us
keep yer eyes down n maybe they wont notice ya
see sir roger ride off to jerusalem
and stick it to the turks
those heathens…we’ll show em
call that an atrocity…?
this is an ATROCITY!
the christians used to dig up plague ridden corpses
and catapult em into moslem cities under siege
promise to spare the citizens if they surrender
and then kill every last man woman n child of em
you see
they were barbarians these moslems
the christians were the good guys
they needed jerusalem back
and whatever it took, ya know…..
im sure olde richard the lionheart
had a good line in rhetoric
and im sure a load of the boys along
on the crusade thought it was a good cause
or they were soldiers just doing their gig
getting paid
killing people
same as it ever was
cut off a childs head?
sure…if its a heathen
i mean the crusaders got god on their side, right?
the proper god you know jehovah n his son jesus
jesus woulda wanted it this way
im sure
i mean you cant say all those people died for nothing
why our leaders wouldnt do that?!
not our king!
he understands ruling!
he wouldnt get us mixed up in a bloodthirsty ruinous shambles
that would continue to fuck up the world
for centuries!
i mean a crusade is a good thing
its the english word for jihad, right?
it means we re doing it for the one true god
and decency n civilisation
and just like yesterday
the paradox remains
sometimes you gotta beat a bit
of fucking civilization into these bastards!
oh and the paisley shirts….?
each floral blip represented a million foreigners
murdered by western white imperialistic christian idiots!

53 Responses to “autumnatic writing”

  1. avatar
    John Garratt | 14 March 2007 at 9:31 pm #

    Hold on tight to your arm-rests, ‘cuz here come the comments…!


  2. avatar
    Anonymous | 14 March 2007 at 9:32 pm #

    cant ya at least tell us what you did with the heyday shirts?!?

  3. avatar
    davem | 14 March 2007 at 9:38 pm #

    Too true Mr Garratt.
    Here’s the first one of the day: “Dip your hand in your pocket you tight arse and buy El Mo Sig!!”

  4. avatar
    kat | 14 March 2007 at 9:39 pm #

    wow sk! true, i didn’t realize how much i agree with your views til today.

    right on



  5. avatar
    Anonymous | 14 March 2007 at 9:47 pm #

    There is an ACTNow rally being held in Canberra this Sunday highlighting the David Hick injustice and other topics of concern.

    Remember – Bad things will happen if good people do nothing.

    Critical Thought.

  6. avatar
    davem | 14 March 2007 at 9:47 pm #

    It’s depressing here. Replace Blair with whom? A bunch of nasty, right-wing tory bastards? Even so I’ve knocked my last door for Mr. Blair. Voting Green next time. Hoping for a backlash, but not expecting one.
    The more at risk we’ve become as a result of our foreign policy (ie bomb/occupy/cause chaos/run out of ideas), the more I’m hearing a creeping, jingoistic, racist, island mentality starting to emerge. Really venomous anti-Islam stuff is becoming more prevalent here. Most moslems I speak with (I work with quite a few, live near to some) are great and don’t deserve some of the crap they’re having to deal with day-to-day from stupid bigots.

  7. avatar
    veleska1970 | 14 March 2007 at 9:52 pm #

    you took….the words right outta my mouth, john garratt. **cue opening bass notes** brace yourselves for the angst-fallout from all those chickenshit anonymous commenters, trashing you, me, sk, everyone else….**sigh**

    but while we’re commenting, my two cents on this one is that i studied history a great deal in my life travels, and my observation is that humanity has been in the same rut for…well, about as long as we’ve been here. i guess it boils down to the “i’m/we’re right and you’re wrong, so you must conform to me/us or be destroyed” attitude that is so peculiar to homo sapiens. and all in the name of some deity, who, as the perpetrators are so convinced of, is on their side, and damn everyone else. i hate to be so pessimistic, but i don’t forsee any end to it anytime soon~~it’s just the way people are, unfortunately. and then you have the sheep who say “duh” and follow along, the herd being led to slaughter…..


  8. avatar
    kat | 14 March 2007 at 10:00 pm #

    hi veleska ;]

  9. avatar
    the dean | 14 March 2007 at 10:03 pm #

    Why is it that the animals aren’t allowed into heaven? this could be the heart of it – use everything up because it’s got no soul. If they’re not going then either am I but I probably won’t be invited anyway.

  10. avatar
    Anonymous | 14 March 2007 at 10:05 pm #

    yep steve, and sarcasm is the answer to everything.

  11. avatar
    CSTCoach | 14 March 2007 at 10:15 pm #

    “and i feel much better now soddem hussein is hung
    he deserved it! the barbarian
    he sat back in the comfort of his palace
    and killed innocent people
    and invaded other countries
    that were nothing to do with him”

    funny, you could insert the names of several “leaders of the free world” past and present, and it’d still be just as true…

    Speaking of the crusades, i’m in the middle of a book on the topic right now. Holy War: The Crusades and their Impact on Today’s World by Karen Armstrong. I should know better, but i was surprised by just how nasty the “christian” side was, and how they started the whole bloody conflict and wouldn’t put an end to it. It’s a good read.

    davem, yeah, replace them with who? they’re all cut from the same cloth.


  12. avatar
    JJ | 14 March 2007 at 10:59 pm #

    Enjoyed this one; effective use of sarcasm – had me laughing, only – it ain’t so funny in reality. It’s tragic.

    Over here; I can’t wait to see this cabal of idiots swept from power in the White House.

  13. avatar
    richard ploog | 14 March 2007 at 11:18 pm #

    The record label made us wear em’—- fuckin bastards! they were auctioned off and the proceeds went to feed millions of kids starving in third world countries

  14. avatar
    salim nourallah | 14 March 2007 at 11:18 pm #


  15. avatar
    ed in fl | 14 March 2007 at 11:24 pm #

    Nice to know you actually read our comments!

    ed in fl

  16. avatar
    Celticat | 15 March 2007 at 12:05 am #

    so much suffering has been caused for millennia in the name of religion. “Mine is more real, better, more right more betterer than yours”

    picture pious religious leaders playing in the sandpit bashin’ their tonka’s together.

    I reckon that about the level of it

    Killer you’re bang on on the money


  17. avatar
    avalon | 15 March 2007 at 12:36 am #

    People claim the hippies and the sixties were the cause of the messed up 90’s – 2000’s. I think the hippies had it right… Peace, Love and no stinkin’ war…and that had they (we/me) stuck by their principles over time, we wouldn’t live in a country where we wage unjust wars on the wrong country. That’s all I have to say about that.

  18. avatar
    Daberhasher | 15 March 2007 at 12:47 am #

    love is all you need…

    well, in my 40 years on this spinning orb, i’ve learned at least one thing… people want to live their life, raise their kids, enjoy themselves, wherever they are… simple stuff that gets stomped on by greed, money, abuse of power and abuse of religion… man’s quest for things he can’t take with him will always leave famine, torture and death in it’s wake…
    so sad when the ability to provide a good life to all is and has always been available….
    a pipe dream???
    to be sure, but it’s the only that allows me to look in my kids eyes and have a hope for their future…
    but i may cave and have my son pull a pre-emptive strike against the bully at school… i mean, i’d have a model for this behavior in the glorious actions of our esteemed leaders, wouldn’t i??? you said it, they know what their doing…
    killing is business, and business is good… meanwhile, iraq has less electricity than at the beginning of the liberation…
    all hail, blah blah puke puke…

    actually i done learnt at least two things, i really dig the church,
    ROCK ON!!!


  19. avatar
    veleska1970 | 15 March 2007 at 12:58 am #

    hi kat!!

  20. avatar
    Samosanx | 15 March 2007 at 1:25 am #

    the price of freedom is eternal vigilance

    it’s harder to be good than bad

    friction is the mother of pearl

    cripes anon 9:05am; why don’t you make some constructive contribution to the discourse instead of being a lazy sod and just chucking lame little trite jibes?

    paisley rocks you know – paisley is fractal diagrams before the physicists even knew what fractals were – the fibonacci series – chaos theory – see, everything is related, music and freedom is related; just ask the russians – and I don;lt recall Sk saying that scarcasm was the answer to everything – perhaps you are burdened anon – get that monkey off your back and enjoy ttb!

    we like it here

  21. avatar
    J Street | 15 March 2007 at 1:49 am #

    The first and the best principle–never go to war.

    If you have to go to war, make it quick, make it simple, make it so that it STOPS torture, stops suffering and frees people. (I know, if you kill people to free people, what the hell? But this is what the Balkans can teach us–doing nothing and being pie in the sky happy go lucky give peace a chance-ers left tens of thousands to die in the middle of Europe)

    All war is bad, and anyone who tells you can conduct a war on terror is fooling themselves. It’s not the War on Terror–it’s the war on the fractional minority who are hiding behind their religion to wage attacks in order to gain donations and supporters. It ain’t about Islam, Christianity or God–it’s about that Timex watch on Bin Laden’s wrist and the dollar signs stencilled on every barrel of oil taken out of the Middle East. Hey, spread a little cash around and stop hoarding it and guess what–people stop agitating and hiding behind religion and everybody relaxes and goes back to enjoying art and family, maybe.

    Poor killer–some fool got a hold of his comments and failed to understand anything about how the world works (and doesn’t work).

    And the killer sets them straight–good on ya, killer. You blogge like a man with a plan.

  22. avatar
    CAPTAIN BEYOND | 15 March 2007 at 1:58 am #

    write on…
    Ne iko

  23. avatar
    fawn | 15 March 2007 at 2:38 am #

    Oh, I thought the ‘geezer’ from yesterday was beeing sarcastic – maybe not?

    the dean – maybe they do!
    “The animal kingdom is represented on the mental plane by two main divisions. In the lower heaven-world we find the group souls to which the vast majority of animals are attached, and on the third sub plane, the causal bodies of the comparatively few members of the kingdom who are yet individualized. After his deaths on the physical and astral planes, the individualized animal has usually a very prolonged though often somewhat dreamy life in the lower heaven- world.” C.W.Leadbeater- ‘The Devachanic Plane’

    Remember, our understanding about animals developed over a long period of time when we believed that the earth and human beings were the centre of the universe and everything in it was created by God for our purpose. Seems a little out of date now!

    I read some details once about the torture some of those crusaders inflicted upon thier enemy – they would cut their stomachs open, pull out their intestines and wrap them around trees and leave them to slowly die!
    Human nature- not so pretty at times!

  24. avatar
    Symon | 15 March 2007 at 2:50 am #

    Steve ….I liked the simplicity of your thought “be nice to people…see what happens”.

    Ultimately there is just a world full of very sad, very frightened, very lost people on all sides of the equation.

    Anger is made up from a raft of complex human feelings….that many of us are to afraid or too unsure how to communicate properly.
    Violence is the outpouring of suppressed feelings and emotions.

    If I can take your thought one step further….”be nice to people and openly communicate our feelings…see what happens”

    joie de la vie …… mon ami

  25. avatar
    mattdavison | 15 March 2007 at 2:59 am #

    Yes, Yes, Yes killa.

    I have a feeling that the same wally that is giving me a rev up on the TB comments…is / are the same plonker’ers’ that fire up sk, and abuse the right to speak on matters kilbey. I will not only not entertain this childish nonsense, but would go so far as to say you are just helping me to gain more leverage in what I say…So thank’s dipstick!! love your work…

    bring on your crass grade 2 wisdom your great for a laugh…. One e-mail to sk, or Rk and ya don’t exist here no longer…but I like ya. your’e likely sad bored, and lonely…so I give out my hand to you……

    Like Dave H…you are harmless.

  26. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 3:57 am #

    Its great to see some serious discourse on some matters of profound importance to humanity.

    So what’s up with that drum sound on Seance, anyway?

    c e

  27. avatar
    The Carrier of Fruit | 15 March 2007 at 5:11 am #

    It’s about time. Might I suggest that too few songsters are saying anything against the shit that’s going down, and I am talking about here in Austraya. We have seen our society turn into something that resembles a Ray Bradbury story, and the singers are singing about nothin in particular. I know the radiyo’s not gonna start play songs of the revolution but it would be nice to know that singers are singing one or two songs of dissent. They’ve got the microphone, they should use it.

  28. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 5:14 am #

    tristan, get back to work

  29. avatar
    captainmission | 15 March 2007 at 5:26 am #

    being just another foot solider in the army of love these are my thoughts, with freedom comes great responsibility, most people can’t manage a little responsibility let alone a large one. the solution, individuals need to update their wet ware, start to win the war within, it’s the only one that matters, else history does repeat itself loop after loop

  30. avatar
    captainmission | 15 March 2007 at 5:27 am #

    after loop, he he.

  31. avatar
    Centuryhouse | 15 March 2007 at 5:46 am #

    “Enjoyed this one; effective use of sarcasm – had me laughing, only – it ain’t so funny in reality. It’s tragic.”

    Very true, same here!

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 6:09 am #

    king richard was a song writer

  33. avatar
    Leelinau | 15 March 2007 at 6:41 am #

    each floral blip represented a million foreigners
    murdered by western white imperialistic christian idiots!

    Finally! something we agree on…only THEY were the foreigners back then. The NERVE of some people!?


  34. avatar
    persephone2u | 15 March 2007 at 6:58 am #

    Saddam was great until he stopped doing the bidding of the US government. Anyone remember this photo of Rumsfeld and Saddam together after America installed him in Iraq?

  35. avatar
    Leelinau | 15 March 2007 at 7:06 am #

    and hell yea life’s a gas


  36. avatar
    Dark Eyes | 15 March 2007 at 7:53 am #

    Hi SK, and commenters,

    I’m back on the Sunshine Coast after 5 weeks on another planet(Perth). Hi to you Celticat, I think you’re cool, think you’re from Perth too.?
    At 73 my dad’s been been told he has advanced lung cancer, no symptoms, good health up to then. He’s having chemo. He’s so special & precious, so hope he sticks around awhile.I was there helping out the fam.
    Anyway, my views, rather than “NO WAR”,- I’m in the “PRO PEACE” parade.
    Hoping to see the band up here later in the year SK, thanks for the blog, & really enjoying elmomsig. since being back home. Yes your voice is sounding better thank ever!!
    Peace and Love to all.(Hi MWP).
    Bec x

  37. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 9:33 am #

    You ever think of taking LSD and looking at those shirts, man…?

  38. avatar
    Belfrank | 15 March 2007 at 10:25 am #

    Nice one today Killa.
    Can’t stay long – gotta go to work – no where did I parke the bloody camel…..?


  39. avatar
    Belfrank | 15 March 2007 at 10:26 am #

    PS – get over the Paisley shirts people!!!!

  40. avatar
    the other steve | 15 March 2007 at 10:34 am #

    Steve, like you said once before you have a quick mind and know a lot of good words….but it’s still just sarcasm. Last time I checked the great peaceniks of our time seemed to be able to get a meaningful message across without sarcasm. Check out Ghandi etc. As for the commenter above who suggested that you are a grand man with a grand plan….i don’t know that ‘Be nice’ really qualifies as much of a plan especially since you have an avowed and documented intolerance for meat eaters and ‘straights’ which kind of nulifies your suggestion…but I guess it’s OK cuase you are a hippy. So lets all have another joint and automatically agree on EVERYTHING. I’m sure those great guys from the Taliban and Al Qaeda will be RIGHT into it.

    Good luck with the revolution, President Kilbey, if this blogge is anything to go by you’ll make a great dictator.

  41. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 10:43 am #

    we’ll keep the grade 2 wisdom up as long as you keep up the kindergarten spelling and grammar!

  42. avatar
    fantasticandy | 15 March 2007 at 10:54 am #

    what happened to the comments you were going to put on the ‘dudes’ site then?
    spending far too much time cleaning up camel dung i expect!
    with my very limited understanding
    of the human condition,
    i can’t see the ‘debate’ in any more complex terms.
    i just like people,
    and animals
    and music
    and food
    and sex
    and trees
    and clouds
    and rain
    and travel
    andy L.

  43. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 12:29 pm #

    can we all just go outside and play?


  44. avatar
    Samosanx | 15 March 2007 at 12:46 pm #

    hey “the other Steve”, sometimes the simplest solution is the right one. check out Occam’s Razor.
    What’s wrong with the concept of “being nice”?; as a value – and who on here said it was “a plan” Does it have to be complicated? Are you the lecturer in a university? Do you not understand the nature of untrammeled discourse? Put away your red pen and open up your boundaries!
    It’s not a classroom; it’s an open ended yarn!

    sorry all ttbers, but the academics are giving me the pip with their self appointed value judgements, their lack of any interesting contribution, and their inability to surrender their control freakery.


  45. avatar
    restaurant mark | 15 March 2007 at 1:04 pm #

    wonder how many people have died in the name of christianity? we think if someone starts spreading communism or islam, or anything else other than christianity and democracy and it has to be stopped…it becomes a threat to our way of life. that’s how bush, cheney and crew see it. i read way to much on this stuff and get pretty vocal against people who still have their heads in the sand and still blindly follow our president and his policies. i could go on about how we’re creating more terrorists than we’re getting rid of at this point. how saddam was bad and i’m not upset that he’s not in power anymore, but he was somewhat of a stablizing force in the region. how we cannot stop their civil war and it is a civil war. how we can’t instill democracy in that enviroment. they don’t want it…don’t understand…you’re talking about people that will kill their own daughter if she has sex, gets raped, gets pregnant just to save honor for the family. the shi’ites really want to kill and or dominate the sunnis…and visa versa. it’s not a lets work together kind of vibe there. you’re different…well, die. you know, the catholics may hate the baptists, but they don’t kill them here…they may want to, but they don’t. and maybe one day the shi’ites and sunnis won’t hate each other and work together for a better understanding, but we can’t be occupying their country at the time and we can’t force it to happen. we also can’t tell them what kind of system they have to set up, how they have to be represented, what they have to do with their oil, and write their constitution for them. we wouldn’t celebrate 4th of july…independence day, if someone else had told us to come here, set up our way of life for us, and picked our leaders and style of government…there would be no national pride (what we do have seems to fading fast). these things have to come from within…they have to want it. they can’t be force fed our way of life. it’s just arrogant to believe everyone wants to be exactly like america…right now we’re more part of the problem than the solution. i love this country, the people in it, the freedoms and luxurys we still have. unfortunately i’m ashamed of the directions and policies that those leading our government have chosen that are misguided at best. at worse they are self serving, murderous, and based on lies and arrogance.

    take care and peace everyone.

  46. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 1:05 pm #

    the paisley shirts on the cover of Heyday were a JOKE!
    A play on nthe Church’s SUPPOSED heyday, when they were thought of as jingle jangle paisley moptops.
    It was an in-joke for the cover – how often did they actually WEAR fuckin paisley in 1986?
    Wake up!

  47. avatar
    Anonymous | 15 March 2007 at 3:40 pm #

    The shirts were OK, but the 80s art-mullets? Whoo!

  48. avatar
    John Garratt | 15 March 2007 at 4:09 pm #

    C E

    There’s a whole paragraph in the Church article on Wikipedia on “Seance”‘s poor drum sound. At least I remember reading it there. Perhaps I dream it.

    I chalk it up to the eighties, ya know? Bad sounding snares were everywhere. The worst offenders being Husker Du.


  49. avatar
    the other OTHER steve | 15 March 2007 at 4:23 pm #

    blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah dictator, blah, blah, blah, blah, hippy, blah, blah, blah, sorry I’m just a jealous fuck, blah, blah, blah…

  50. avatar
    davem | 15 March 2007 at 7:09 pm #

    To be fair they were “thought of” as jingly jangly mop tops cos they wore paisley a bit through 81/82 and bel-air, tear it all away, almost with you etc etc well…….were jingly jangly!!
    And all 3 of those are up in my top 30 Chrunch outputs cos I grew up/fell in love/et al to ’em…

  51. avatar
    Samosanx | 15 March 2007 at 8:25 pm #

    gated reverb on the snares. very eighties, very ugly sound.

    much better other steve!

  52. avatar
    Anonymous | 16 March 2007 at 12:07 am #

    Read this blog for a day or two, torture indeed. So long.

  53. avatar
    avalon | 16 March 2007 at 2:26 am #

    Call me nuts, but the drums on seance are great. A bit periody, but hey deal with it. Love dropping names. A drum line to dream to. Definitely one of their top 3 LPs. OK don’t call me nuts.

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