posted on December 28, 2012 at 1:09 pm
  or well

or well

if the world can hang around long enough

if we can survive this era of malevolence ….

things will come good ….eventually….

i believe ….eventually…

we will see the end of guns , meat and war

we will see the end of puritan bullshit

like telling us who can get married

and what you can do with your own consciousness

dont tell me i cant take drugs coz theyre bad for me

but then send me to your useless war….

we , the people, never signed on for that…

i believe eventually common sense and love will prevail…

but it will belong long long after all of us are gone

the (human) world lurches towards getting it right

in countries like sweden where they are neutral (no war)

where the sick and handicapped and the young and old are looked after

how can a country not look after these groups, its beyond me…

whats the point in all the riches in the world

if everyone is in misery around you…?

i’m so sick of hearing about second amendment this n that…

when those guys framed that constitution they

1 . had only muskets (they did not anticipate guns that could spew bullets!)

2. people didnt randomly shoot school children in those days…..

(and why do they now tho?)

so i believe eventually

guns will be rightly seen as the death dealing instruments they are (obviously)

and they will be taken away from EVERYBODY! eventually……

if a comet dont hit us

if a nuclear bomb dont blow us apart

i have seen this meatless gunless hateless society in my heart n dreams

and after all it is what most of us have always wanted

a world devoid of horror and endless violence

the era of the gun and bomb is over

they only bring more pain and more guns and bombs

nothing must be killed! we do not have the moral right!

every life is sacred , the beasts as much as us!

we are, if anything, the beasts custodians not their killers….

this is what i believe

i believe so passionately and so thoroughly in anti-meat anti-gun

that on my page i brook no argument

you cannot will not ever persuade me that guns or meat or war are necessary

it is an obscenity to me

I WILL NOT HEAR IT

you can argue with me that god exists

or that this football team will win

or that blah blah is a great record or whatever

i will of course print all that

but on these fundamental points to me there is no argument

just like child abuse or slavery or bestiality or equal rights

there are no pros n cons

there is only the moral law

the moral law is not up for debate

it does not change from year to year or from place to place

it holds me in its orbit

i’m sorry i cannot abide killing

it is not the way forward

that is implied in my music and words

this moral law governs my life and my work

the way forward is (cliche ahead!) love

love the ugly!

love the poor!

love the beasts!

love the syrians and the iranians!

instead of drones send them love actualised!

look after every body

there is enough stuff on this earth for everyone

the obscenely rich must share the wealth

the obscenely poor must be cared for

its christmas time folks

have a little read thru the gospels

see how our man Jeshua handled himself

talk about the middle path

a bunch of angry violent bastards about to stone a woman to death

(this still happening literally and virtually and symbolically today)

Jeshua says :

Yeah go ahead guys …only let the guy who hasnt himself fucked up

chuck the first fucking rock… (more or less)

of course this stopped those bastards in their tracks

well uh i ah guess uh….(they say)

no one can cast that first stone, can they…?

they all wander off grumbling i suppose

the adulterous woman says to J

what should i do….?

J says : go home and try n behave yerself

(the exact aramaic escapes me!)

thats the way things should be done!

instead we have a bunch of homicidal lunatics

(lets call em the same old bunch!)

the leaders of the “free” world

the louder n more often the word liberty is used

is in exact opposite proportion to how it much oppresses its own citizens

the land of the free has more jails and more in jail than anywhere else

you can buy a fuckin gun that can blow away a hundred people in a second

but tim leary got chucked in jail for years for having 2 joints or something

yeah thats real freedom n liberty

you know what ?

i been round the world mostly

i met people from everywhere

italians americans spaniards scandinavians thais brazilians indians

aborigines native americans mexicans eskimos africans you name it

guess what?

there are superficial differences between us

but everyone has that same need to feel loved and safe

to be left alone

everyone everywhere loves their mum n dad n their kids too

didnt matter where i went the people loved their children

the same way the exact same way i love my own

like every hair on the body is precious

like you couldnt bear to see anything bad happen to em

all mammals feel the same way

its hard wired into us

it is inescapable fact of mammal life

that we love (in our own way) our offspring

it would be abhorrent otherwise!

love must prevail

therefore i cannot condone or bear to see happening to others

what i could not bear for myself…

if i was president i could not bear to send even one soldier to his death

because i myself could not bear to see my own son or daughter killed

if i was a slaughterman i could not slaughter one beast

because i could not bear to see one of my own kind slaughtered

you must not deal out that which you cannot bear yourself

(that there is a moral law)

so i am tired of the same old bunch of people killing everybody n everything

and same old bunch of reasons for it

a brave new world requires a little bravery from the people in it

we need a revolution of the heart

JC started or restarted or helped kick along that revolution 2012 years ago (approx)

it requires a bit of bravery to realise the dark age is over if we, the people ,say so

clinging to meat or guns or pre-emptive wars

wars that illegally invade and murder people that are eventually fruitless

in every way

( that there were no fucking WMDs…um .shouldnt someone get into trouble over that?

doesnt someone say..excuse me you just got millions of people killed …

but there were no WMDs…?!)

i’m sorry

the only way to start is zero tolerance

let people  look after their own consciousness

let them marry each other

let them live and have families and enjoy this earths abundance!

i aint going along with killing under any circumstances

it starts here

i can only speak for myself

but that belief is now an absolute in my system

i hope eventually if everyone in some distant future can believe that

we could actually have heaven on earth

until then….

 

meanwhile

ive had a bastard of a day myself

(i speak in relativity here, i am still fortunate and grateful of course!)

i almost drowned because i froze up in the ocean on a bay swim

not fear of sharks like last time

this time i just had a little loss of faith

and at the same time i lost my breath

interesting actually

because in many languages spirit (faith) is same word as breath

so i almost drowned n the more i almost drowned the more i almost drowned…!

then a big wave crashed me into the stairs

winding me and now one of mah ribs is throbbing like a good’un

then my falcon (tibi the 2nd)

is in bad shape

the geeza from garage rings up as i get outta pool

(already reelin’!)

my car is gonna cost every last penny i currently got

and my rego runs out tomorrow!

and my parking doo dah tomorrow

(or they start booking me 120 bucks a pop!)

and a message from my bank feed yer credit card or else!

like everyone else chrimbo has strapped me o’ cash

i appreciate that, believe me

however if any of you out there were thinking of a SK premium subscription

or renewing last years or something along those lines

(a late christmas gift….)

lemme just say

now would be a real handy time to do it

of course if you cant or dont wanna or not interested

that is perfectly okey doke

( no comments along those lines required please)

no worries

just talking to any loaded cats (i probably just denounced in the rich rant…)

any loaded cats out there with a few extra chris-miss bickies

chuck em my way….

subscribing helps me to write this blog in the first place

and

subscribing cos we have stuff coming up….

 

….eventually……..

 

 

love sk bondi blah blah blah

 

ps the garage man

(his name is eugene

i said: careful with that axle, Eugene!

he didnae laugh tho)

he just rang up

“its more than he or i even thought!”

merry christmas tibi 2nd

you just took me to the cleaners !

 

 

a gun in the home increases the chance of being killed by firearms 72 %
a gun in the home is responsible for vast majority of children killed by firearms
a gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a suicide homicide or accident than to be used in self- defence
a gun in the home triples the risk of a homicide
a gun in the home increases the likelihood of suicide fivefold
an abused woman is 6 times more likely to be murdered if there is a gun in the home

 

 

 

 

 

106 Responses to “eventually”

  1. avatar
    Kohl Ette | 28 December 2012 at 1:48 pm #

    LINKS:
    Man abuses woman,
    woman abuses child.
    Child goes psycho
    possibly mutates to dictator
    accelerates weapons of mass destruction.
    The population waits in agitation
    love devoid
    more paranoid.
    Flurries of fight flight fright….
    Man respects woman
    woman respects child
    child respects pet
    humans become love pilgrims
    in life.
    Simple and yet progressive.

    Oh dear, sk, please be ok.

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    Ingrid | 28 December 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    And hasn’t the gap really has widened between the obscenely rich and the obscenely poor. Don’t you just love how the politician’s that gave themselves a most generous payrise last year (or was it earlier this year) think it’s ok to take money from societies most vunerable. Obviously not having conscience is part of the selection criteria for being in government.
    It is pretty hard to stay positive in this climate of greed. So too I don’t agree with killing of any kind – man or beast.

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    hellbound heart | 28 December 2012 at 3:01 pm #

    for what it’s worth, a whole lotta love and good wishes your way from me, Steve……..
    did you know that the world’s most expensive Christmas tree was in the Arab Emerates a few years ago and it cost eleven million dollars to create………go figure……..
    love always………

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    Chris | 28 December 2012 at 3:12 pm #

    John Lennon said it well too….where are you John….I miss you so bad man…

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IkFCDokGesM

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    M E M | 28 December 2012 at 3:22 pm #

    Have you heard of this guy Perer Joseph who made a series of films called “Zeitgeist” if you haven’t you should check out his latest installment http://www.zeitgeistmovingforward.com/ There’s a lot of material there, the last film is at least three hours, his bit on behavioral science and the cause of violence is right on the money I think… “What the worlds needs now is love, sweet love, that’s the only thing there’s too little of…” Stay safe for us Mr. Kilbey…

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    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 28 December 2012 at 3:36 pm #

    I will help out the best I can Killer…
    I need to order some goodies and Eekie is
    ridiculously professional n quick…………………

    ..with much luv….

    Daz

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    sharon daniel | 28 December 2012 at 3:38 pm #

    The wisdom of SK speaks volumes. A world of love, peace, harmony with no killing is but a dream, maybe oneday. Sincerely hope you’re ok, all the best…..

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    mw | 28 December 2012 at 5:10 pm #

    happy to hear you made it out alive today
    and keep on dreaming up, visualising the world just the way
    you want it to be – i am sure it all counts in the mix

    lots of love to you and the girls
    xxx

  9. avatar
    Anonymous | 28 December 2012 at 5:59 pm #

    creating peace, freedom, security, rights for all living creatures is hard work every single day, nothing less. Many people do that work every day of their life – in the face of enormous resistance, sometimes sacrificing their own lives. The world would be in much worse shape without those efforts. Creating peace (inner and outer) does not equate to being passive -if you are alive it is your life’s work, you are conscripted. Otherwise you are part of the problem.

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    kell | 28 December 2012 at 6:40 pm #

    Nice eye…i pray you get through today…’n every other….and keep going…’cause it’s so important.

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    b. raine (brainyone) | 28 December 2012 at 7:51 pm #

    TIME FOR CHANGE IS NOW
    but u see they have so much
    all theve ever wanted
    its coming like a tital wave of gigantic proportions
    their burrowed down underneath waiting till the day
    with all their money, supplies wrapped around them
    many levels down they’ll go. for a time they’ll be safe
    and who’s coming
    little grey men. Just as in hollywoods WAR OF THE WORLDS
    A FRESH START. man got to violent.
    see theres no trust.. no face to face rections of truth
    when i am you and you are me we both know what we are.
    when you ARE me or i can trust you as such,The paremeter of I changes
    i is now entrusted in all,,in sort of a “world view”
    of goodness
    the government ie cia , dea, fbi, fcc have more than they are saying
    technology that can ease our mind, make us rich in feeling..make us love eachother
    a few new simple rules could save us, with their new technology in the right hands
    they have done great feets nasa has been able to look back in time and if you can go one direction you can change the reference point to see into the future
    its like this
    one mans word in the olden days woulda done it
    but today with no trust in another as the self due to the media;no parents and men growing up beeing looked at less than they are,, man deevolves
    one mans word would of done it before when somebody would listen
    but I can say a million times the government has this technology that beems into the skull voices and visions..reams..drugs..spirits. that there laser beam is in us all..
    i jusy say here watch your thoughts..know your not beeing influenced they have whats called thought implementation.
    one mans word today mocked as tinfoil hat dilusions as skitsophrenia
    not a man who we trust as ourselves to tell us that the government is planning our demise and to take head and research the f*** out of it
    these words perhaps for my own blogg.. but how do i not excite when “they” can “scan”
    each and every one of us in a second.
    know every human is good when we let him be
    meaning if you dont think another is good and dont trust him with his intention
    he will be left behind
    every soul cares of every soul
    ev

    • avatar
      BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 29 December 2012 at 12:11 pm #

      ..and as much as i love Steve , and many of the people on this blog…i am not debating something that i live with everyday and everynight with than strangers, who only can understand their own ‘opinions’ and no one elses, rally against me as if i am a bad person or the ‘bad’ guy…no – im the one who will protect u if something happened while u were dining in my city and i was near you to help……….. so —-thats wickedly————————
      uneven distribution of the podium…so im done…and if people decide to dislike me and attack me in any way (and laughingly continue to) , or shape , or form…i feel sorry for them because i ‘didnt cast the first stone’ but i WILL cast as many stones necessary to assure MY opinion is heard or read…so just please drop it or go the distance…ur choice… i asked nicely…

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        Anonymous | 30 December 2012 at 3:00 am #

        lord forbid ever the need, but if I were you Daz, I’d be much more at peace with myself, as I think you are communicating, if I protected my child/(family)/a stranger in need… instead of allowing someone else to take control and do harm to them.

        Remember Ellie Ness – Tahoe court-room: the law had allowed a mad, evil, man to rape children not once, not twice, but so many times it is impossible to believe a court/criminal system would not throw away the key… each time, he’d be put in jail – to be released… and would do it again and again and he was never going to stop. When are authorities going to get real/care for the victims/children? [She] lost faith with our legal system… and flat out in front of everyone blasted that evil fucker (and I hardly ever say that word, but this crazy was one… can’t think of him without) into hell! She was a hero – how many children did she save from that evil madman (and our incapable legal system)? I for one can understand her thought – the [his] threat was still there and his crimes had escalated and therefore, in her mind – and it seems obvious she was more right than wrong, he was still a threat cuz the govt hadn’t done its job – she was protecting others. Whereas, that Bobbit woman had a choice – she should have left that husband of hers, and there was no excuse for what she did to him.

        – that new lazer type gun the militaries have come up with that can render a whole crowd helpless with one blast – news is they are arming police in the United Kingdom (England) with it to test it against crowd control… It may be that even in more civilized countries than the United States, those countries that registered gun owners did turn in their weapons, those govts are still aware there are those who have hung onto their weapons (none of which are registered/on the books as even being owned)… organized groups – it’s just not reported; and the owners are more organized/hidden. Daz makes a point below of the “registered” gun #s in this huge country…. those are just the legal guns, there are two illegal guns for every legal gun in this country – scarey/hate those things – but if/when a govt calls for owners to turn in their guns, it’s the legal owners that easily do so – not the organized criminals, you have a bigger problem up the road.

        And: if his animal farm was right, which everyone seems accepting of now – then what’s to say her handmaid’s tale doesn’t follow? Of course, then we should look at the Canadians and New Zealanders – both countries allow arms – and yet their violence is lower than the rest of us. Maybe it’s their societies are doing something right? I’d be willing for my tax dollars to go for some “pork study” as to why that’s so.

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    b. raine (brainyone) | 28 December 2012 at 7:54 pm #

    thank you mr kilbey

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    Go Out & Play Kids | 28 December 2012 at 7:56 pm #

    Get rid of the fat kids laying around playing violent video games and give them some respect, parents not giving guidance, etc. This brews thoughtless feelings of death and life not being worth but a pile of crap. Give a kid a hobby or imagination or project instead of TV set or game and you give a kid some satisfaction in real life. You know, nowadays, childern are not spanked, but talked to, how do you talk to a child who does not know the real meaning of punishment of doing anything wrong. This tolerance of niceness toward a child doing something wrong in the early stages brews intolerance later on OR other factors: rape, abuse, etc. It does not help that today’s information is quick and swift, too fast almost, where we find news at thre forefront in seconds. It’s a brand new world pretty much. Intolerance for patience, waiting, etc has gone, and in it’s place are kids being brewed with no thoughts of concequence, moral, or feeling for life due to only being taught that words are punishement, not feelings. Spank a kid and you go to jail nowadays, what kind of upbringing is that? Not all childeren will respond to this behavior but most will think of it or suggest it otherwise. So in other words, words carry no meaning unless it’s givin a physical relation. Sad to say but this is what society is melding toward the future. Over nurturing without physical practical punishment melds feelings and lack of trust thus leading to intolerant behaviour…this is in my opinion why some kids nowadays have no feelings and take their lack of phyical punishment out on other innocent people, because they do not feel what others feel in that effect.

    • avatar
      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 9:06 am #

      agreed

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      Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 10:15 am #

      you can have your opinion, but most research suggests that spanking children creates a more violent child later on and can have other negative consequences. Eg: http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx
      http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1983895,00.html

      You think members of the Taliban didn’t have enough physical punishment in their childhood? Instilling fear in children is not the answer. Empathy is not created through violence. To be honest it makes me feel ill that people think they can violate a child’s body space in that way. Don’t hit or abuse children, adults or animals – it can’t be that hard can it?

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        Admin | 29 December 2012 at 11:09 am #

        i have never “hit” my children. i have never spanked them even
        sometimes tho ..under a certain age a small sharp smack on botty or leg
        is necessary (unfortunately)
        like a mother cat nipping her kittens
        when its done out of love
        it can refocus a bad attitude
        (i got this as a kid and i never resented it.)
        but imagine a world without human violence….ah yes!

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          Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 12:13 pm #

          how can you imagine a world without violence if you think it’s ok to smack a child? It’s not ok to smack an adult but somehow ok to smack a child who can be overpowered? Smacking is not love. Touching another’s skin, entering their personal space, should never be about hurting or shocking. And most parents don’t think it’s necessary these days (part of the dark ages), and their children don’t grow up to be violent or anti social because of a lack of physical punishment. Even if it’s not the case for you, many adults do still remember every hand laid on them as a child and in their memories the smacks still hold their bite. I’m not including you at all when i say this, but i hate those people (mostly macho males) who say they were smacked as a child and it never did them any harm. They are often agressive bullying, angry types, so their self assessment of how they turned out can look quite faulty from the outside.

          we will just have to disagree. I shouldn’t read the comments! Especially when i am sitting here trying to write something on violence, about the fact that not all children who suffer from a violent upbringing grow up to be violent! The irony of it…

          And i have my own contradictions. In the world we currently live in, violence does sometimes have to be met with violence – self defence, defence of others, containment of violent perpetrators. How the world could stand back and fail to protect nearly a million Rwandans from being killed is still hard to fathom. But other than by meeting violence with violence, solutions are hard to find. I know many Afghans who don’t want western troops pulling out of their country – they feel they will then be at the mercy of insurgents. The road to peace is filled with complex realities.

          have a peaceful new year

          • avatar
            Thomas | 29 December 2012 at 6:33 pm #

            I agree with you there; I was beaten pretty severely when I was a child – and still remember every *thump* and *whomp* to this day as a 40+ year-old. HOWEVER, there is a magnificentally huge difference between being beaten or severely spanked and being smacked sharply on the arm or leg – especially if you’re about to do something dangerous like drink bleach or run out into the middle of traffic.

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            complex | 30 December 2012 at 1:37 am #

            once when my child was just a year …put a tiny hand to an electrical plug (those tiny fingers fit easily into a plug socket but can take out the safety thing parents put in to protect) just instinct – I grabbed by the arm and paddled the bottom and yelled no… never spanked otherwise, but under the circmstncs the interpetation of what was more important – “no no sweetheat …that’s an ouchy” wasn’t sufficient to get the point across. my kid never did it again and in fact the next day pointed another socket out to me and told me a flat, “no.” Way safer to have me control the situation than to have my child die/be cricically hurt. i.e. – too young to explain the danger sufficient…

            there are times as Mr. Kilbey points out when there is course acceptable for a paddle , but I think the point is: if it’s cuz of frustration of parents, not good for the child, then it’s bad for the world… can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched little kids w/a parent out in public asking desperately for something they percieve they need and the parent ignores until… the child has now turned into (in the parents’ mind) a whiney little brat – and then they get bellowed at/smacked/etc… punished for something that wasn’t their fault… can’t imagine what happens behind closed doors if a parent loses control that easily in public? it’s sad to watch and scarey – cuz that kid at that/those early ages turns into an older child who can’t go/communicate with their parent(s) and then a problem… now they’re not so cute anymore… it’s a long process to raise a sociopath. It doesn’t just happen. listening is the key – all people no matter their age, are equal – we go off on “equality” on all these other issues, yet we forget our children.

            (never had to punish with a swat again… my child got the message and from that one incident understood that “no” cuz I didn’t say it unless it was dangerous for my child meant I cared.)

            also: I think if parents remembered that to ask for the truth from our kids means you have to bite your tongue quite often – cuz it’s the truth you want them to trust you with… then kids wouldn’t lie to their parents. worked for me – though the truth wasn’t always perfect, at least it was accepted; so it continued… my advice: start early accepting the truth, then you never have to wonder later on.

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          eekie | 29 December 2012 at 11:08 pm #

          Yeah, this is pretty much what happened when I was a kid. The smack/cuff was reserved for times when we would get a situation that put us into immediate and severe danger such as dashing into traffic, etc. Because it was used only rarely and in certain conditions, it really got my attention but wasn’t humiliating as being spanked would have been. My mom was appalled by spanking — she would often say “if you did this to an adult you’d be arrested, but it’s legal to do to a child?” I think she got it pretty much right and if I’d had kids I’d have tried to do the same.

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      Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 2:14 pm #

      Disciplining a child is beneficial to a child and educates them,unlike punishment which is confusing and encourages resentment,bad behaviour etc.Disciplining a child takes time and effort(which a lot of parents don’t want to spend for one reason or another) and involves discussing things with them at the time of the unacceptable behaviours but also at other times.More importantly giving consequences applicable to the age/understanding of the child and the situation you are in reinforces the discipline.
      As an example if a younger child demands something in a whining and obnoxious way,you could say you don’t understand what they are saying and then model the way you want them to talk to you.Once you have “helped” them achieve this then they can be rewarded with your attention for their positive behaviour.If there is no cooperation from them to begin with,the consequence would be to send them to their quiet spot until they have calmed down and are ready to work the problem out with you.
      It shows both the child and adult respect,which is what we need more of in this world.

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    Boriah | 28 December 2012 at 8:47 pm #

    I´ve just payed a couple of new trips I´ll make during this year (one to USA -Milwaukee- and the other to Venice) + a new guitar (a USA Fender Telecaster). But by March-April I´ll go SK premium, I promise.
    Meanwhile tell that Eugene that I wont take any of my two cars to him! No competitive prices, Sir!
    Cheers!

  15. Kraig
    Kraig | 28 December 2012 at 8:55 pm #

    Evil people do not see the same eye that us peace mongers see (i.e. Terrorists)…they see the EVIL side, the side that wants to hurt and spread their ways whether it is good or bad in their mind. So the only option to oppressing evil or the oppoosition is not verbal violence but phyical opposition…one act of kindness to someone that is dillusional or in disagreement cand be dealt by verbal means if both parties are in the right mindset and sane, but in one party is insane, what good does the other party do if they are sane? This determines the act of violence vs. defense. It does not do any good if that entity or person does not see it in the same light. Hopefully good outweighs evil in the end. But i’m sure Satan and God in the end will not talk things out, just like human beings, but will fight it out either peacefully or physically unfortunely. What does the mother bear do if it is threatened by any outsider as a threat to her cubs, she defends them the only way fit in her own way and best way. I personally think there will never be peace, but i hope, but instead there will always be a fight against freedom and the human spirit of freedom to be free because there are always beliefs in the way whether they are good or bad.

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    Melissa | 28 December 2012 at 8:59 pm #

    dearest sk, please just stick to swimmy’s in the pool at icebergs for a while okay?!? (once you’re back on your feet..) God, nearly had a heart attack when I read about what happened… sending you many good wishes and so glad you’re okay 🙂 Feel better soon xxx

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    Marcos | 28 December 2012 at 9:07 pm #

    hello, Steve you have good ideas, you should think in write Gospel Music, you should know JESUS, and believe about the things that is in the
    Bible, remember Steve “JESUS LOVE YOU” and want save you.
    You can create worship music, and Live a life leads for Jesus.
    God is everything that carrie in our life.
    Would be wounderful The Church making songs to God.

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    Marcos | 28 December 2012 at 9:13 pm #

    I wish a happy new year for you Mr. Kilbey and your Family, I don’t know you, but I know your worksongs, and you transmiting peace and love your lyrics.

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    Jesiah6 | 28 December 2012 at 10:16 pm #

    Sounds wonderful. Hopefully it will happen soon. It’s hard for me to see it in my lifetime, but maybe someday.

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    narelle | 28 December 2012 at 10:23 pm #

    so sorry to hear you you are hurt….you should/MUST get an x ray in case you have damaged a lung from a possible rib fracture…it would be helpful to know that there is no contusion/haematoma around the lung region…so that you know what to do if it requires some healing time i.e. taking it a bit quiet for a while…anyway, thats up to you Steve
    I was in a pretty horrid car accident in the middle of the night, quite a decent distance from Gladstone hospital…roos on the road stopped us (in my VW beetle)…a holden monaro (rodeo mob on their way home) skidded into my car and hit my poor VW head-on
    we ended up down an embankment…nyce!!!…landed on the roof…#ribs, pneumothorax, facial injuries so on and so forth…lucky to survive
    my point is, I wished I had known to stand as straight as possible as those numerous rib fractures did not really line up well…that advice will cost you!!!…
    loved your blog today…I agree there is no other way…pure and simple

    it is achievable…heaven on earth…one of the same
    and if Anita Cobbys’ dad can forgive her killers, 5 evil bastards…I suppose one day I will find a way to do the same…I worked with Anita in Coffs and the last conversation we had…Anita had ideas of going to Perth to live…I was moving to Perth
    I read about her murder in the West Australian

    thank you Steve for a great blog (2012)…love it
    peace and love to all xoxo

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    Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 12:16 am #

    Let he who has never resorted to violence or squashed a bug cast the first stone? Ok, there’s room for discussion there. And, I dunno, Daz, if you’d said “I hate guns but I feel I have to own one as a last resort to try to protect my family if the absolute worst happened” then there just might be room for debate.
    But telling Steve Kilbey, of all people, that “I love guns. I own 6 of them”? Daz, mate, I dunno if there’s any accomodation to be reached with that or a way back from it. I honestly hope there is, but…well…

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      Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 10:31 am #

      most australians feel the same way, even majority of conservatives in Australia don’t want guns. Only those on extreme right and those who want to shoot animals for fun (with increased political influence lately, especially in NSW.

      Many Americans feel the same but obviously others don’t, like these ones: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/12/look-all-these-guns-people-got-christmas/60306/

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      BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 29 December 2012 at 12:02 pm #

      ok…

      i dont know ur fascination to keep a conversation going from days ago but …here is my last #’s for u to wrap ur head(s) around….

      i dont know where many of u preside, i would guess that 50% of people on this site are from Australia, i am hoping to take my wife to Bondi , once in her amazing life…my med probs hav put a hold on travel…i can only fly 2 hours or so without crazy pain…so – i ,actually, want to visit most of these readers home country…

      so here it is…look up the stats…they change and flop around a bit but the #’s are very close to this REAL reality…

      USA population = 313,250,000

      and the # of ‘known gun owners in the states, ….not 1 in 50 , or 1 in 25

      or 1 in 15 or 1 in 10……ITS aprox. – 80,000,000 GUN OWNERS !!!

      thats 1 in every 4 Americans (aprox. legally?) … 25% of our people…

      The Greatest Country On Earth was born 225 ago , by the sound of a bullet…

      and it never EVER will change…its true… it echoes around this world…

      …so , I will reword my opening sentence from a blog ago…

      …”i legally own 6 handguns for the safety of my family, i train and practice with each one of them every 3 months…i enjoy guns – i cannot
      explain the exact reason why…25% of my country are also gun owners, i will protect my family and the people i love from violence against them…if a armed individual walked into a movie theater to kill innocent people…i will shoot the fucker dead and i will smile in my press packet…80,000,000
      fellow citizens will applaud and smile with me”….

      please do not ever think that u can understand my life, my life in my city
      and ,my survival for the ones i love the most…500 people have lost their lives to violence in my city, Chicago, this year alone with couple days left for more madness. we have economic hardships – but we also hav a steady ‘cost of living index’ and a person could live on min wage here ($8.25) til they can do their very best to strive for a even better ,achievable earning and way of life…i encourage everyone to visit – please do…

      it is very hard to read about violence across my country , across this grand nation, in fact…this amazing world…but the first news i here everyday is MY HOMETOWN news and its tragic…i hav volunteered with young men entering high school, for 7 years coaching citywide sports, and helped these young people see that there is more to life than the ‘streets’ …sadly – i was injured and i am perm disable with further degeneration , and i can no longer assist my community the way i once did…one of my former basketball players was killed by gang violence only a mile from my home this summer – i went to his funeral – i cried…….i live in a very good area of Chicago , but my city is large and its a very diverse city…there is literally people of every color – everywhere…and we do our very best to coexist , every day…i hav been a victim of violence couple times in my life, couple very extreme with guns…to ensure my survival – thats me, not even my family…i purchased guns and the licenses to legally own them , i did training and i believe i am a pretty clear shot from 40 yards away…i began shooting when i was 12 years old and i have owned guns since i was 16 years old…i am 46 years old…

      i will not hesitate to shoot another human being who is going to kill an innocent person…i will aim to injure, or if necessary – i will shoot to kill… i will not apologize for my actions or my beliefs…if my country did not have a single gun, and the criminal element used baseball bats to injure and kill people —— i will own and love 6 BASEBALL BATS and i will make sure that i can use it properly and defend myself, others , or kill the person if i must….with the base ball bat…do u understand ???

      i wont apologize and u cannot possibly understand for a second what it is to live in my ‘life’ …in my world…i do not preach gun ownership…i preach nothing…so please just leave me alone…all of u seem very nice, and live in a totally diff world than i do…remember the 313 million i wrote earlier…its gonna be virtually impossible to get them to come to an agreement about …….ANYTHING !!!!….but 80mil know that they need to be armed , for some reason…beyond just hobby or sport…

      Daz

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        Admin | 29 December 2012 at 1:33 pm #

        we dont think its the greatest country on earth.
        and it was born to the sound of a bullet killing a native american
        hooray!

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          Admin | 29 December 2012 at 1:36 pm #

          On gun control for my US mates – ‘What happened next
          [ after Port Arthur ] has been the subject of several academic studies. Violent crime and gun-related deaths did not come to an end in Australia, of course. But as the Washington Post’s Wonkblog pointed out in August, homicides by firearm plunged 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. The drop in suicides by gun was even steeper: 65 percent. Studies found a close correlation between the sharp declines and the gun buybacks. Robberies involving a firearm also dropped significantly. Meanwhile, home invasions did not increase, contrary to fears that firearm ownership is needed to deter such crimes. But here’s the most stunning statistic. In the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there had been 11 mass shootings in the country. There hasn’t been a single one in Australia since.

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            BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 29 December 2012 at 2:55 pm #

            Ur kidding me…ur gonna throw #’s at me and not expect me to respond…
            #’s was my life in so many ways , predicted – analyzed, marketed , manipulated…
            I have $$$,$$$ cuz I lived #’s ……..#’s are everything….if ur gonna use em…..
            research mine cuz thier 99.98% accurate….

            So read these #’s….

            Ur country has 23 milion people in it , living breathing ….

            We hav 313 million ….so that’s 14 flippin times more …

            That’s 1400 times more in actual math …calculate that with the
            ‘decade’ your talkn about (X) tragic event and u would hav had (11 x 14 ) =

            154 mass shootings in a decade / based on population…

            compared ….
            to how many ‘mass’ shootings in a decade of a country with 313 million
            people !!! The #’s don’t ever lie , that why they statistically determine
            more events on this planet than anything else….ever…its mathematics……

            Yeah…we havnt had 150 mass shootings recently (decade) and yeah what
            took the media to kick it all in high gear…down to each victims barber….media
            distortion = things are so much later than they seem…

            How bout in every catagory …statistical- related to every timeline
            event …u used in thus continuing debate with me…..so …..1995-2006….
            11 years to get a GRIP on the insane gun violence in ur country…and u
            saw a dramatic 59% drop……that’s fantastic !!! Every life is very valuable….
            But put ur #’s in a timeline with growth and population surges in the same
            time period of urban areas of America …u know the country ur comparing
            against that is 14 times the SIZE of u….so I will round down and say 10…
            10 because a decade times the amount of people to warrant and convince…
            as populations in lower income areas incline steadily…..

            It would take nearly a 100 (HUNDRED) years for the lawmakers in my country to
            achieve those statistics…we r lucky , and our media soakes it up and spits it
            out when crime numbers go up/down .03% compared to last year !!!

            U hav an argument and I do understand what u are trying to relay, but u
            gotta do the math…math every time….the world spins cuz of math …its
            that simple…in the last few years America has had the horror of mass killings ….
            but not 150 of them !!! We have shit sourced our style of media to : gab and
            jab , twit n tweet , at the minds of our own…than u throw in non-citizens and their theories…the internets and satellites and …whoshhhh….instant news….
            At their interpretive , profitable liking….that’s the ultimate facts !!!!!!!!

            And it makes us sitting here say , WTF ??? UR Math doesn’t work …if ur gonna
            base an argument , by comparing every structural concept of numbers …..
            and plop them out there for people to size up, rally, invoke a seriousness of them than………make bloody sure their correct………

            Australia is crazy insane , dudes……

            for having those 11 mass shootings for just 23 million
            people compared to only 61 mass murders carried out by firearm in the United States between 1982 – 2012 !!! And in only 30 of our 50 states did these
            tragic events occur. Yep – look them up people , only in 60 % of our large ass
            country……..did this madness occur …and hav u ever heard of ‘east coast/
            west coast’ media bias…..hell …didn’t u write a song about …..directions ?????

            So stop throwing #’s at me like they mean something, if the #’s did go ur
            way – i would b applauding u, any of u….but my #’s are very real……no way
            will I get an applause , will I ????…..ya people its very true, type in the correct
            questions – in legit web statistical sources….and whoosshhhhh…but i already
            knew all this , cuz iv had this argument with someone else before (nonAmerican).

            So…to refresh…11=154 , but only 60ish hav occurred in 30 years…..
            Yep…what u see is not a country violent and uncivilized…..maybe/kinda ???

            No….u see the growth of every type of media source , growing like dirty weeds
            and glamorizing than deploring everything about its very own ….and the rest of
            the world just soakes it up and spits it back at us , and we r sick of it……..

            It ain’t as pretty here , but by my calculations its 1400 times better……..

            D

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            Admin | 29 December 2012 at 3:41 pm #

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            Admin | 29 December 2012 at 3:52 pm #

            a gun in the home increases the chance of being killed by firearms 72 %
            a gun in the home is responsible for vast majority of children killed by firearms
            a gun in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a suicide homicide or accident than to be used in self- defence
            a gun in the home triples the risk of a homicide
            a gun in the home increases the likelihood of suicide fivefold
            an abused woman is 6 times more likely to be murdered if there is a gun in the home

            theres the maths

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          jimmy22times | 29 December 2012 at 1:59 pm #

          the natives in australia were treated with such kindness across the board, kudos to you aussies! the american indian bit was a couple of hundred years ago but all modern americans are responsible and accountable is this correct? jesus, what a self righteous prick you have become! Coffee mugs and fucking tote bags?? Sad.

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            Admin | 29 December 2012 at 2:09 pm #

            no we white geezas shot em all up didnt we?
            here there everywhere….but i aint bragging about it , am i?
            uh the “american indian bit’ is still lingering on knucklehead
            wanna tote mug ?

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            Admin | 29 December 2012 at 2:18 pm #

            hey jimmy are you trisha or pepper or jimmy?
            seems you got a few aliases going there mr or ms or ?

      • avatar
        Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 3:02 pm #

        a violent united states is not good for any of us around the world – we are all connected. The US has a lot of power and constantly preaches peace and democracy to everyone else but it arms its own citizens to shoot at each other, to shoot children.

        Making it so easy for mentally unwell people to buy semi automatic guns (most of the mass killers in the states had reportedly shown signs of mental illness before they killed – http://tinyurl.com/cgpfzsf ) is criminal. It is a shocking list of just the “mass” killings from recent years, perpetrated by mostly white males: http://tinyurl.com/cdw6zyh

        I think it was a day or so after the recent US shooting that 10 girls were killed in Afghanistan after stepping on a roadside mine, or a bomb planted by insurgents. The girls were out collecting firewood. Guns, mines – all weapons of mass destruction.

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    Marcos | 29 December 2012 at 12:49 am #

    Hello, Mr> Kilbey, JESUS LOVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

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    hippy | 29 December 2012 at 6:39 am #

    As long as the same ignorant people keep breeding and infecting the offspring with their lack of moral values, the future doesn’t look too bright. Additionally, the human race needs to get rid of the technology that is narcotizing them and turning everyone into lazy slobs obsessed with entertainment. We need to DE-evolve. There needs to be a change in universal consciousness, not just of a few bright people. How this can be achieved I’m not quite sure.

    Re: Drugs. I agree with you, although not everyone who uses drugs are responsible individuals. The laws are there to protect us from those who aren’t responsible. The State of Washington and I believe Colorado have legalized pot. It’s a step in the right direction (the de-criminalization of it). It’ll be interesting to see how this goes. I

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      Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 1:32 pm #

      You’ll get 10 year olds smoking it on buses

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      linjo | 29 December 2012 at 2:44 pm #

      Hippy has it in a nutshell! the indiscriminate breeding will never stop and so on it goes. There is no hope for humanity until a great big virus wipes us out and we can start again from scratch. Wouldn’t it be good if humanity never had the concept of a god, just love and welfare for other living creatures. Oh dreaming x

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    tracey | 29 December 2012 at 7:44 am #

    thinking you could re-jig parts of the bible into simple language like todays blog. name it ‘the good book – an orwellian perspective’ or some such….

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    eekie | 29 December 2012 at 8:07 am #

    Small steps in the right direction are far better than no steps or steps in the wrong direction, so do celebrate those small positive steps. Remember, little (more likely nothing) of value is easily achieved.

    I hope your rib is causing you less pain today. Hope your mechanic is causing you less pain too!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And for TTBers — now is a great time to book a commissioned painting from Steve! Or to buy an original “off the shelf” so to speak. Or even a mug!

    Email holly@thetimebeing.com) for more in about commissions (or even the originals or mugs).

    – Newer original paintings for sale: Click here

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    – Mugs and magnets for sale: Click here

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      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 8:57 am #

      good time for a painting
      i’m just hitting my straps!

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    Steven Krut | 29 December 2012 at 9:48 am #

    I’m an optimist who thinks that growing interconnectedness will make war less likely. Like how the EU nations have grown past the point of even contemplating war with each other. It can happen world-wide, I think. If you look back at where humanity was at this point in the 20th century, there are far less severe war storm clouds on the horizon.

    Please be careful when you swim! 🙂

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    Brien Comerford | 29 December 2012 at 10:53 am #

    With all due respect SK I dont see any hope for the beasts. Tigers, rhinos, lions, hippos, many primate species and other majestic wildlife species are already at the precipice of extinction. China is the world’s superpower and they are directly involved in international poaching and trade in illegal wildlife parts. Brazil is another rising power and they are replete with human carnivores who decimate rainforests and their endemic creatures to pave the way for cattle ranching. Fewer and fewer people in India are vegetarian. The Jains and the Brahmins keep the faith but many Hindus have been westernized into eating meat. Overfishing is destroying ecosystems and biodiversity in the oceans. Human anthropocentrism is evil and it permeates throughout the world.

    On the bright side we have hardcore veggies like you, Macca, Chrissie Hynde, MOZ (the Pope of Mope), Jeff Beck, Steve Howe, Annie Haslam, Judith Durham, Thom Yorke (Radiodead) and Howard Jones. Exemplary cruelty-free music. JUlian Cope too.

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      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 11:06 am #

      yeah brien
      its a tragedy that our grandchildrens grandchildren will ask what a lion was. what a rhino was.
      we must resist meat eating …it will kill this planet in so many ways
      but i am preaching to the converted in you
      neither of us can tolerate the cruelty of meat
      so we must persuade and exhort and if necessary bully people into seeing the wickedness of it!
      all power to you my friend
      fight the good fight forever
      never shut up about the ugliness of meat and the beauty of the beasts
      god bless you!
      sk

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      Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 1:09 pm #

      there are many people and animal groups doing the best they can to save many species of animals. The Humane Society do much great work around the world http://www.hsi.org.au/ Support them!

      There is growing awareness among younger generations and hope that some of the damage done in the past can be repaired and not repeated. This article from earlier in the year, from one of our government policians was interesting (just because it came from a politician, without thinking about which voter groups he was trying to win over). In it he says:

      “Baby calves, so fresh from birth that they are still unsteady on their feet, are slaughtered before they’ve had the opportunity of any meaningful life. In France they’re taken for meat before birth.

      But young revolutionaries, many not yet in their teens, are demanding their parents use their purses and wallets to improve animal welfare standards. And adolescents are turning vegetarian big time. University lecturers in animal ethics are speaking to packed auditoriums.”

      http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/animal-welfare-is-right-and-its-good-business-too/story-e6frgd0x-1226380669172

      He needs to check out what some of those Asian Buddhists do to animals and each each other (not really way ahead of us, as he says). But there is hope and we need to build on and support the momentum. Everything seems impossible until it happens (someone once said).

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    M E M | 29 December 2012 at 12:37 pm #

    We dream of a new golden age one where mankinds ability to self regulate for the good of all is the rule of the day but how can this be done? This question is paramount to our continued existence and drives all who truly wish to effect change. And for this I have always looked to the path of tarot. And I am consumed with this task a forever meandering way which defines the soul. I am blessed to be collaborating on THE TAROT OF THE TIME BEING. It is my sincerest wish that in 2013 this work can be made manifest to all! Until then I continue to reach within and attempt to pierce the veil of understanding! Each thought and idea forever echoes in the continuum of time. It is here now that we are all together! Blessings to us all! mem 12/28/2012

    • nina
      nina | 31 December 2012 at 7:34 pm #

      how exciting!! *love and light*

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    Kohl Ette | 29 December 2012 at 12:58 pm #

    Yes, with this generation of adolescents, I think it was correct whoever said above that it depends on the child’s disposition and receptivity to parental guidance. I don’t like hitting but have to admit to the odd love tap when mine were young. ‘Love tap’ actually underplays the horrible feeling of my remorse after. I was spanked with a hairbrush often for having knots in my hair and complaining of the pain of having my hair done. One time the hairbrush broke. Teachers would hit us with the wooden end of the feather duster too which hurt… you can’t hit teenagers unless you want to escalate violence; even nagging, bitching and shouting has a similar (ultimately non) effect to out of control hitting. So, it is a far more complex issue than it seems, say I, a mother to a teenage boy. I have spoken to a professional about it and on that point I think I was given good advice and try to follow it. Basically, I was told to ‘lay off’ the child. Individual dispositions definitely play a part and have to be handled with care, and relationships with BOTH parents considered. A mother can’t always compensate for a father’s deficiencies and vice versa. A child can see through a parent’s desperate attempts to fulfill both roles and reject even resent those attempts. Unfortunately, some children and adults only learn from mistakes but hopefully they learn.
    Sk, I dropped my resubscription in cash to Futura earlier. I have a receipt for it. I’m sure Rajani said it was Scott working there today. I forgot to ask him his name. There’s now a turntable in the house so I bought some vinyls too! How is your poor rib?

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    trisha | 29 December 2012 at 2:08 pm #

    Steve, you are anti guns but pro groin kicks from what I’ve heard. How could mister peace love and understanding kick someone in the groin. Should have hugged it out dude. Groin kicks are not very nice. Australians per capita are the highest groin kickers in the world.

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      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 2:17 pm #

      correct.
      he had it coming!
      sometimes a kick in the balls makes a moron see sense
      he punched me first tho
      dont think a hug wouldve done the trick
      do you?
      sk

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        trisha | 29 December 2012 at 2:33 pm #

        So when some well armed chicago gang-bangers approach daz’s house he should rely only on the groin kick as a line of defense?

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        BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 29 December 2012 at 3:07 pm #

        I applauded u on that very day , and the days after for that…serves him
        right….I can’t tell u what i did to my first father in law….

        Well…ok….got hum really drunk at a strip club for my bachelors party
        …u know the one here called the Admiral…and talked a ‘dancer’ into
        going home with him…..and She did…..and she robbed him……

        But he wasn’t mad at me , he had fun he said….that was 21 years ago….
        R.I.P. – Robert…..and my first love……………rip……

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          BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 29 December 2012 at 3:08 pm #

          …my first love – his daughter……

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    PEPPER | 29 December 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    A summation: Steve Kilbey hates guns so they should be illegal. Steve Kilbey enjoys drugs so they should be legal. Carry on.

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      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 2:15 pm #

      thats correct
      it couldnt be worse than it is now, could it?

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    barry | 29 December 2012 at 2:14 pm #

    hope you feel better and heal quickly.best wishes to you and love your worldly views.the world needs a change for the better.more music next year please!!

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    barry | 29 December 2012 at 2:22 pm #

    you are right about guns.some people just aren’t responsible or sane enough to own them these days.

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    M E M | 29 December 2012 at 2:50 pm #

    we can only hope

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    nina | 29 December 2012 at 3:20 pm #

    ask and you shall receive… i believe in the shift… carbon to crystalline… do you feel lighter? if we can let in the light then we will all transform!! eventually. hope you are feeling better and those bones heal quickly for you xxx

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    M E M | 29 December 2012 at 3:24 pm #

    Boiling cactus..

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    Trevor \|/ | 29 December 2012 at 3:25 pm #

    Steve, I wholeheartedly respect & support your vegetarianism/veganism, but where do you draw the line? Many past experiments (not going to draw up a reference list, I’m sure anyone wanting to can find the papers, etc.) have demonstrated that plants are sentient and can feel/anticipate pain. Surely, providing the animal has not suffered and is given the utmost respect for its being, etc. (as most tribal societies do) then non-vegetarianism can still be as ‘spiritual’ as vege/veganism?

    Trevor \|/

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      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 3:33 pm #

      i dont have the apparatus to see the carrots twitching when i eat em
      i dont see em calling out to their lost children mournfully either
      so i conclude its ok to eat
      to eat meat because of something like this is nonsense
      everything is alive
      this earth is alive
      you gotta draw the line somewhere.
      show me an animal that doesnt die in pain n misery
      how can it not suffer when it is killed/
      i dont live in tribal society and i dont judge them
      they dont read my blog either i presume
      but for us in the western world
      meat remains murder
      like it or lump it!
      sk

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        Trevor \|/ | 29 December 2012 at 6:47 pm #

        Steve, I was not making a value judgement, just a statement. As I said, I applaud you (and all) who choose to be vegetarian. I once was 100% veg myself. Now I consider myself ~90-95% vege (if there is such a thing!). It’s a lifestyle choice I make – and just as I respect your choice please respect mine! Murder or transformation, or both? The carrot may be silent but the potatoes have eyes 😉

        I was going to bring up another topic here – the inclusion of insects, molluscs, etc. in the diet and whether, by your criteria of not hearing them scream when cooked/eaten you consider them along similar lines to vegetables – but I think the point moot right now.

        Some of us (you especially!) have had quite an eventful day…time to unwind, chill out and appreciate the universe in its entirety, despite its few (human-derived?) flaws. Wishing you well on your recovery and, as one other has pointed out, stick to the Icebergs for a while! We all want you around for a bit longer…..!

        Trevor \|/

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      Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 4:07 pm #

      do you know how many times vegans/vegetarians have to hear the ‘what about the poor carrot” line? Over and over and over from meat eaters who can’t imagine life without ingesting animal carcass and who don’t actually care about carrots either. There is no justification for animals being bred and killed in pain and fear to satisify someone’s taste buds. All life may experience feeling to some degree, but for those of us who are yet to master living on prana alone, it is the only life sustaining option. I’m so tired of meat-eaters who are threatened by people who don’t eat animals. It’s really up to you to explain why you choose to eat animals. Why do you choose to eat animal flesh but not human flesh? (some tribal societies eat humans). Why do you choose to eat some animals and not others (assuming you don’t eat pets)?

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        Admin | 29 December 2012 at 4:12 pm #

        yes the old twitching carrot is a cliche trotted out one million times!
        ive heard it over n over.
        the truth is most meat eaters (if they really think about it) feel guilty
        then
        they lash out at vegans n vegetarians who they assume feel superior to them
        a silly little cycle isnt it?
        they are running out of excuses to indulge in this horror
        eventually the earth will demand vegetarianism
        for every reason
        sk

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          Anonymous | 31 December 2012 at 10:29 am #

          when i get those comments now i just say let’s not go there because i know where the conversation is heading. People just want to argue. As you say it is motivated by guilt, and feeling judged just by the fact someone is a vegetarian. I am so tired of the issue of my vegetable eating, it comes up all the time. Last year a person from another country was offended by the title given to an article i wrote (not my choice), so he wrote an internet rant about me. He began by saying i was a vegetable eating person! This was a man i had previously known and i had been very kind to him. The article was not about animals or eating habits, but my vegatable eating was where he went first before he got into an anti Islam, etc, rant. I don’t even usually talk about what i eat, other than when the reality of eating comes around and i have to decline to eat meat. Then it starts -‘why don’t you eat meat’ ‘what about the poor carrot’ on and on they push with the predictable provocations. I don’t tell people what to eat, i just do my own thing and try to create change mostly by supporting (as much as i can) the animal movement (organisations like animals australia are doing great work). As more people become aware of the cruelty animals face in order to indulge the wants of human beings, more choose to change their habits.

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        Anonymous | 30 December 2012 at 3:08 am #

        my kid gave me that argument when I initially went veggie… but then same kid became veggie too – example still remains the best way to change things. besides, humans are herbivores biologically; our bodies were designed to eat vegetation, not meat.

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    Bernadette Keys | 29 December 2012 at 3:41 pm #

    Gee there’s some pretty heightened responses here today. Its a strange time of year. SK nearly drowned yesterday – if you people are fans why have a crack at him when he’s injured. The anti- guns thing is not a personal attack. Chill out people.

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      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 3:59 pm #

      Samantha here – Exactly, way to go guys! Did anyone read the part about him almost drowning, and the fact he can barely move today, with muscles torn from ribs???

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        Anonymous | 29 December 2012 at 4:13 pm #

        oh, no, don’t be the victim… strong statements bring out strong responses and you know people are really fighting with their own shadows. They raise you up, they bring you down. It’s actually really impersonal. Don’t know why i’m posting, just procrastinating from doing proper writing… Get some rest!

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        narelle | 29 December 2012 at 11:34 pm #

        Samantha…..can’t believe what I just read!!!!!
        yes….and did you open your ‘blind’ eyes and actually read my comment?, and having read that comment, has Steve had his x ray?? and….I was hoping when I got home for work this evening…to read that Steve is OK…let Steve speak for himself or are you his mother!!!

        so Samantha…please do not ask stupid questions like if anyone read about ‘that’ part of the blog…I did read it!!!!….then have the gall to insult by putting me, myself, I in the same basket as those who did NOT comment…and just because ‘they’, i.e. others, did not comment does NOT…ABSOLUTELY NOT equate to not caring about Steves’ injury……does it??

        with love xoxo

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          Admin | 30 December 2012 at 7:34 am #

          um i think theres been a misunderstanding narelle
          lets all calm down we are all on the same side here
          love and peace sk

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    Kohl Ette | 29 December 2012 at 4:38 pm #

    I think it’s interesting when people give advice about parenting anonymously. I wonder if they are actually parents themselves. Of course, they can have opinions and may even have suggestions worth considering. It can be good to have an outside opinion but keep in mind, it is an outside opinion, take it or leave it. In the end, the parent is the parent and speaking for myself, I will communicate with my kid as befits our relationship and personalities. I know I do that mostly with good intentions which not everyone can manage sadly. I also know I’m not perfect. I think adults will probably communicate with kids better when they can communicate with eachother. I would say that gets back to the male/female thing again. By and large that can improve, though some have it down pat, congrats! Yes, I did ask how sk was a couple of times…. and back when I mentioned about BOTH parents, I was referring more to my own situation than anyone else. I wouldn’t have gone out of my way and dropped round that cash today in person if I hadn’t been concerned. I really do hope he is doing alright!

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      Admin | 29 December 2012 at 6:08 pm #

      i’m doing ok thank you very much kohl.
      and i appreciate the subscription and the kind gesture!
      sk

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      Anonymous | 31 December 2012 at 9:52 am #

      As long as you are not breaking the law within the home in bringing up children, society will mostly leave you alone to parent as you choose – listening to the opinions of others is optional. But the line dividing parenting as a public or private matter is not so clear. Many children are abused in private spaces and one of the main obstacles to addressing domestic violence is that too many people consider it a private family issue. The welfare of all children in a society is a matter of public concern for everyone. We are just privileged to care for young people for a while until they can care for themselves. And then there are those children or young people who are parentless, or separated, who come into our orbit and hopefully can build on the short term care they are offered. Parenting and behaviours of children come in many forms and i don’t think people need to have born a child from their own body to understand caring for children. Unfortunately, childlessness is too commonly thrown in condescending tones at women without children, as we see played out with the prime minister every day (that awful barren woman who apparently can’t understand children and parenting, how could she possibly govern a country) And parenting is a different experience for each parent. And there are lots of same sex parents now, so I’m not sure about the male/female thing. A recent survey found that of all our politicians, people would most prefer Penny Wong (gay australian politician) to babysit their kids.

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        Anonymous | 31 December 2012 at 10:50 am #

        and as for posting anonymously, sometimes it’s that or nothing. I have public and private separations of my own to work out, and for various reasons (safety, ex boyfriends, privacy…) i would have to be much less open if i used my name. I sometimes think people find anonymous frustrating because they want to line up a personal target rather than take a comment at face value. The more information we can gather about someone, the more we can pass judgement on them personally and stop looking at ourselves or the issues being discussed. I see more and more people being discredited on the internet because of personal dislike (self dislike?) rather than engaging with the issues they are talking about. Anon is only really a problem if it is used to abuse people, but i often find the most abusive are people with names anyway. If SK didn’t have a name how could people keep going on and on about his hypocrisy. Forget about if what he says has meaning or truth or none of the above – the most important thing for some seems to be that he has once said or done something else. It’s just boring and it’s about an unwillingness to look at ourselves. We are all conflicted and hypocritical on some level.

        i think i’ve now posted enough for the next year… totally self indulgent and didn’t improve the life of one person or animal in the process.

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    Boriah | 29 December 2012 at 7:49 pm #

    Daz and Steve, I consider you both my friends, and it´s sad to see you´re fighting. Paradox is that if you were having some beers you would be laughing about all this. People can debate but friendship goes first. You two are friends, remember?

    This is turning too serious, so allow me to introduce one piece of humor: I´m a gun owner, I own a love gun, always loaded…blame Paul Stanley.

    Cheers!

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    Chris | 29 December 2012 at 7:50 pm #

    I have deep respect for the way you make yourself so available, open and vulnerable on TTB Steve…I know of no other world famous musician and artist who does so…we are privileged people.

    I am made so aware of my own inconsistencies, foibles, complexities and hypocrises in reading people’s entries…I value the robust democracy of the Internet….

    Thanks again for the gret gift of TTB to us all…..get well soon mahatma!

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    Kohl Ette | 29 December 2012 at 7:58 pm #

    You’re welcome, Steve 🙂

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    andy | 29 December 2012 at 8:25 pm #

    sorry you had a day filled with such nasty suprises steve.
    hope your’e healing….
    much love,
    andy.

    p.s. way to go sam!

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    Verdelay | 29 December 2012 at 9:55 pm #

    THREE PRACTICAL SUGGESTIONS:

    (playing to the gallery a bit, but oh well)

    1. HUNTING: a perfectly acceptable pursuit subject to the following conditions:

    a. The hunter should honour the beast s/he choses to hunt, and should slay it in a “respectful” manner, with due deference for the spirit of the creature, the pursuit, and the killing act itself. Any associated Deities should likewise be honoured (should the act be acceptable to them), and the hunter should engage in the appropriate ritual of cleansing and forgiveness following the taking of animal life;
    b. All parts of the slain animal should be utilised for food, clothing, equipment etc., preferably through the skills and knowledge of the hunter him/herself;
    c. In the absence of ancient/indigenous hunting practices/techniques, the “neolithic plus” model should be followed by way of equipment. That is to say, the hunter should be equipped with no more than a sharpened flint and two metres of twine in order to engage in the act of hunting. Further equipment (bow, arrows, etc.) may be fashioned from the natural environment through the hunter’s own wits, but any further requirements should be seen as evidence of the hunter’s lack of skill and/or commitment;
    d. In any society/civilisation where the hunting of animals fulfills no direct spiritual or material needs, the act itself should be proscribed as psychotic and decadent.

    2. MEAT EATING: In Westernised consumer capitalist cultures, the eating of fish, flesh or fowl should be licensed. In order to obtain the license, prospective meat eaters would have to fulfill the following conditions according to the laws and regulations governing the act of eating meat:

    a. Completion of a 5,000 word essay/treatise on why the eating of meat is required by the applicant. This may be spiritual, material necessity, or aesthetic, but must be cogently argued and the appropriate statistical and historical sources cited. The applicant must demonstrate a thorough knowledge of the circumstances and consequences of meat eating in order to pass this component of the test;
    b. Completion of a practical course in hunting and butchery (see 1. above). This will be assessed through a practical examination;
    c. A visit to one of the remaining meat producing facilities (abattoirs) to see first hand how meat is mass-produced;
    d. A detailed psychiatric evaluation.

    The license should be issued for a period of one year after which it will need to be renewed. Costs for the licensing and regulation are to be borne by the meat producers.

    3. GUN OWNERSHIP: Any lethal projectile weapon is to be banned outright. Anyone who feels the need to obtain/own/utilise such a weapon for means of self or family defence, entertainment, etc., is entitled to have their case heard by a qualified tribunal of legal, ethical and medical specialists. If their reasons are deemed worthy, they will be assisted in some way that does not involve the use of firearms.

    Not perfect, but it’s a start.

    v

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      davem | 30 December 2012 at 11:04 pm #

      Just brilliant. This had us howling with laughter. Post of the year!!

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    eekie | 29 December 2012 at 11:59 pm #

    Re: the added info at the end

    Any one of these should give people pause; taken together they are stunning.

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    Marcos | 30 December 2012 at 12:49 am #

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    Anonymous | 30 December 2012 at 3:13 am #

    hope you’re doing well after your aquatic adventure… but you survived! how much better it is you got to experience the adventure, than not!! as was told first (I’ve been told) in Iowa: if it doesn’t kill ya it makes ya stronger

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    Brien Comerford | 30 December 2012 at 4:45 am #

    AS Sk knows-all the grains and soy used to feed inhumanely mistreated “Food Animals” could be used to feed the entire human race. Vegans and Vegetarians reduce cruelty to animals, human starvation, global warming, deforestation, myraid ecological and water supply crises in addition to decreasing air, water and land pollution. Every vegan/vegetarian saves an acre of trees a year.

    Vegetarianism is a moral, spiritual, societal, ecological and planetary imperative. The only problem with vegetarian food is that is so savory, satiating,and tasty it is addictive and can make a gluttonous person fat. I’m proof of that.

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    Kohl Ette | 30 December 2012 at 6:49 am #

    From an Australian point of view, ‘gun in the home’ I can’t fathom. ‘Gun’ and ‘home’ seem like complete contradictions. I know some other ‘societies’ would argue otherwise but it is beyond me.

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    Patrick B | 4 January 2013 at 12:54 pm #

    kilbey, old friend, i don’t always agree with you…and i never 100% agree with you…but i always respect your passions and your honesty. i think you would be the last person on earth to feign righteousness in and of yourself. in other words, you’re human. and that’s refreshing. i personally don’t think humanity will find its way without help (which, i believe, we’ve already received…2012 years ago…approx) but i respect the notion that some of have much better intentions. man, living in America…the best and worst…seems like more of the worst these days…take that back…the Mideast seems like a f**king mess of a place and heading like a bullet in the wrong direction…but, still, America has lost its way. we used to be the light of the world, so to speak,…or at least, again, had good intentions. just not sure anymore. sports stars making millions. poor guys looking for a buck on the way home from a job i hate…making a big bank richer. ugh…we seem pretty lost my man. but kudos for the optimism. i don’t listen to the church or you much lately…it’s like going back the beatles…i know it so well…why?, you know? but maybe i need a trip back churchville…when things were simpler…and the future didn’t seem so gosh-darn scary and dark. peace…i hope you find what you’re looking for…chances are you’ve already found and are making it all too difficult (or simple!) 🙂

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