posted on July 10, 2009 at 6:40 pm

(me n cst coach ryan m
discussing the best way to wring an idiots neck)

its hard being me
its hard being a human
its hard being a creature on this planet
theres always more twists n turns ahead
accidents to avoid
crises to avert
revolutions to crush
suffering the slings n arrows
the gig in connecticut was slightly derailed
by a guy who wanted to stand up the front
in the theatre
dangling his hands on the stage
touching the cables etc
the theatre didnt want it
for whatever reason
and asks him not to
but he wants to
eventually i get kinda embroiled in it
i dont know what to do
i dont care
im neutral
but the guy is calling out
n carrying on
nothing major
just a niggling useless problem
by this stage
its all about the guy
his rights etc
he doesnt care the gig is going down the tube
maybe he cant see it
then he starts calling out to mwp
getting him involved
just losing all our momentum
the guy loved the church
but in the end
it ended up damaging us
this is what i mean
as a human being
you push one way
you get the opposite result
you protect freedom…you get a police state
you tolerate anything…you lose yer freedom
you try n help but you often hinder
you try to be consoling
people say dont condescend
try not to get involved you become aloof
try to get involved and youre in someones face
this isnt just for me
its for everyone
some kinda design error makes everything hard
until you finally get
windows that dont open
because someone jumped outta window once
now no go in most american hotels
how about
for your own safety this gun doesnt shoot
for your own safety the war has been cancelled
for your own safety the bad food is unavailable
ha ha
so i tried hard after the annoying man finally buggered off
but somehow my attention was diverted
i was thinking about a load of stuff
instead of being in the zone
where i shoulda been all along
because thats when you get a good show
no one wanted it to happen
but it did
just like iraq n vietnam n ww1 n 2
and all the other stuff
from tiny to huge
that just keeps going wrong here
for us hu-man beings
we did recover towards the end
and ended up having an ok gig
just one of those things
like stubbing your toe
or catching a cold
or killing yourself to live
or the beatings will continue until morale improves
let me say this
i do my best usually
i listen to what you say
a lot to juggle
imagine being a president or general or pilot or captain
everyday i hear n see contrary things
i get confused
i make bad calls
i make poor decisions
i ignore the wrong people
i listen to the wrong people
sometimes the futility of it all
i dunno

tonite its albany
last u.s. gig
we re here now
its a weird kinda theatre
in a govt building
who knows how its gonna go…?
see ya
sk upstate new york
empire plaza

60 Responses to “for your own safety the windows do not open”

  1. avatar
    points along the sound | 10 July 2009 at 7:23 pm #

    For what it is worth, I was next to that guy and though he was annoying, I felt the show was absolutely spectacular!!! I could sense derailment in the least and would go to the Albany show tonight if I could!!! Thank you for an awesome show!!!!

  2. avatar
    Chela | 10 July 2009 at 7:26 pm #

    I hate it when drunk frat boys ruin a gig – face it assholes everyone hates you, so stay home or go to a rave.

    I guess I'm cranky b/c I'm facing a 7% cut in my income – yay UC.

  3. avatar
    Ceemoon | 10 July 2009 at 7:28 pm #

    Silver lining: the jazz is free.

  4. avatar
    Cee | 10 July 2009 at 7:38 pm #

    "wring and idiot's neck"
    Ha! Bloody fantastic!

    Personally I've put gum in idiot's hair (punk rock days, oi oi oi!), thrown away idiot's drinks and grabbed idiot by shirt collar and thrown him on the hood of his own car (again punk rock LA days – oi oi…ah never mind). Problem is – the world continues to churn out idiots and I'm getting tired.

    Good to see the Coach and you 2gether!

  5. avatar
    Queen Hatshepsut | 10 July 2009 at 7:40 pm #

    What a bizarre fellow. Sorry he spoiled your gig. πŸ™

    You sound tired and nihilistic. You need to get home.

    Good luck with your last few gigs. And stop ignoring me.

    p.s. I'm kidding! I just read your line "I ignore the wrong people" and thought it was amusing, unlike this comment.

    p.p.s. you're really a trooper, to tour and keep blogging!

  6. avatar
    frostatmidnight | 10 July 2009 at 8:07 pm #

    There's always one obnoxious drunken frat boy in the audience wherever you are, and it truly doth suck. Mightily.

    I got lucky one night whilst seeing The Fall in Seattle as that time it was a drunken female shouting at the top of her lungs and trying her hardest to dance, this despite the fact that we were all penned up against each other like animals in a slaughterhouse.

    After getting knocked about repeatedly by the drunken female (who dances to The Fall anyway?), I thanked the lord above that I was wearing my spiky leather boots and set my heel down as hard as I possibly could on her foot. She screamed in agony, but was none the wiser as to who had hurt her wittle footsy wootsie since there were so many people angry at her around. She shut up after that. I never realized how cathartic it could be to kick someone until that night, ha!

    Hope you have a lovely last show.


  7. avatar
    m stricklin | 10 July 2009 at 8:13 pm #

    Good luck on your final gig of the tour. And don't forget… the south awaits The Church.

  8. avatar
    A. Kite | 10 July 2009 at 8:19 pm #

    Just for that, the only Church song that guy gets to hear from NOW ON is "Travel By Thought"… at 150 dB and NO LESS!

  9. avatar
    Anonymous | 10 July 2009 at 8:40 pm #


    Staring at the Quack and the Quack stares back at me.

    How about another spin around the States?

    Or, perhaps home to count yer karma chips, play w/ yer leetle uns, wine yer wife, rest yer bones, make up w/ yer bandmates (after all that bitchin in yer van), and then write/ create/ record the killer double-album that will be the true mother.

    Ah ah.

    Wilfred Paradise

  10. avatar
    Hellbound Heart | 10 July 2009 at 9:12 pm #

    yep, that's it, pay out good dough and go to a gig with a bunch of other people and then proceed to mar it not only for them but for the performers as well…..what a wanker…..

    love always….

  11. avatar
    Anonimo | 10 July 2009 at 9:19 pm #

    Something similar happened to The Waterboys in Madrid some months ago during an unbelievable Mike Scott's guitar solo when someone jumped onto where the band wwas playing and began acting as if he was also playing guitar (it was very funny, anyway. Mike Scott was so concentrated that he didn't care about it). The guys from the staff got rid of him and he fell out of the stage like a bag full of shit. I guess he didn't get anything broken. Aaah… Those drunken guys.

  12. avatar
    Dave | 10 July 2009 at 9:33 pm #

    A little bit of gig humor for Steve

    "7 Obnoxious Assholes Who Show Up At Every Concert"

  13. avatar
    it could've been anyplace | 10 July 2009 at 9:40 pm #

    i could never get that near
    you and me
    we're as free as
    free can be can't
    you see like a tree
    so obviously

  14. avatar
    it doesn't change... | 10 July 2009 at 9:50 pm #

    another place i
    look for for..

    this the world that i once
    called home…

  15. avatar
    Freddie | 10 July 2009 at 9:58 pm #

    Very reflective blog today; the coolest kind of cool πŸ™‚ xoxo

  16. avatar
    p webb | 10 July 2009 at 10:03 pm #

    I thought you all handled the guy pretty well, and I was surprised to see him disappear for the middle of the set. To be honest, I was much more distracted watching the couple "dance" in front of Peter….yikes!

    Anyway, he was a minor blip in an otherwise amazing performance – easily as good if not better than the other two shows I saw this tour.

    My sister-in-law, enjoying her first Church show, was blown away (and she likes the way you move).

    Thanks again for an amazing tour.

  17. avatar
    CSTCoach | 10 July 2009 at 10:03 pm #

    >discussing the best way to wring >an idiots neck

    arguments in the band will never be the same again

    sorry to hear everyone had to suffer a loudmouth dickweed in CT. jeez, there's always gotta be one.

  18. avatar
    Freddie | 10 July 2009 at 10:07 pm #

    Is that how you got your nickname? πŸ˜€

  19. avatar
    tell me... its electric | 10 July 2009 at 10:12 pm #

    we'll shake away those

    you stand there
    and the gold you spent

    we'll walk and be like

    we'll all be honest men
    i go back

    to my blindness
    so that i may see again

    their time has

    hey, its ok

  20. avatar
    Anonymous | 10 July 2009 at 10:18 pm #

    the only place i am a virgin,is in my left earhole.;0;/;P;):) xo have a great gig.xoxoxoxoxo

  21. avatar
    Ellen | 10 July 2009 at 10:27 pm #

    Steve, you say it SO well and with great compassion and poetry — as usual.

    Love this blog post. It's how we ALL feel, whether occasionally or constantly. So, if it's any consolation to you, you're not alone.

    After reading your blog post, now I realize why you were discussing ways to wring that dufus neck. LOL!

  22. avatar
    Anonymous | 10 July 2009 at 10:33 pm #

    Why is any obnoxious male automatically termed a "frat boy"? I'm sure none of you would dream of throwing around stereotypes that involved a minority.

  23. avatar
    Anonymous | 10 July 2009 at 10:37 pm #

    Just a little pothole on the road to nirvana. Perfection is to be abhorred in any event. I was in Ridgefield last night and had the time of my life. A few minutes of distraction is outweighed by 2 1/2 hours of bliss.

    If there were no annoying people in the world, we wouldn't need the comforts of art, would we?

    Thanks for everything, large and small.

  24. avatar
    Anonymous | 10 July 2009 at 10:51 pm #

    Another mention of Iraq. Obama has sent troops into afghanistan and is dropping bombs and innocent people are dying. You always say once the first child is killed all bets are off. Well the first child has been killed. Cat got your tongue? You hate George Bush but Obama is one of the good guys. Just a little consistency would be nice kilbey. Obama is a war criminal, plain and simple.

  25. avatar
    El Commento Estupido | 10 July 2009 at 11:19 pm #

    It would be nice if the words of Rodney King, the man who got the shit beat out of him by LA pigs (oops, I mean cops), weren't forgotten: "Cant we all just get along?" Problem is, violence greed and corruption rule this world. I hope in another thousand years (if it lasts that long) our brains evolve to a higher level. For now we have to put up with it, idiot concertgoers and all.

  26. avatar
    Belfrank | 11 July 2009 at 12:01 am #

    He was a tool alright, but you handled him mildly enough and I don't think it ruined anybody's night.
    There was a great mutual exchange between the band and audience from what I could see and it's ok to be relaxed some nights – by no means sloppy, just not too intense.
    I saw four shows with four completley different vibes and all very enjoyable for different reasons.
    I've seen the Church in various incarnations over 30 times and I reckon you are as good as I have ever seen you right now. (Not kissin ass here either!)
    That's rock and roll !


    PS – the version of Girl From Ipanema makes a strong case for your future career as a lounge singer πŸ˜‰

  27. avatar
    R.D. | 11 July 2009 at 12:09 am #

    The venue was great… very intimate, very surreal… a lot of fun. The fellow in the front and for that matter, the entire group dancing in front were just trying to enjoy the show. The security at the venue should have handled it without interruption to the band and the people enjoying the show. Nothing harsh, just don't touch the cables, dance off to the side and have fun!

    The performance was great. We look forward to seeing the band in CT again.

  28. avatar
    Chela | 11 July 2009 at 12:19 am #

    See? The term "frat boy" encompasses all races and ethnicities – all good my friend!

  29. avatar
    C.C.E. | 11 July 2009 at 12:51 am #

    Those of us up here in Mooseland really appreciate the band's efforts to play a few shows here, even if we're too far away to make it to any. Afraid you've got a lot of distance to cover to Quebec city then Ottawa. (No Montreal?-I'll never understand tour schedules) Godspeed and don't get too bored tired'n down.
    Thanks for all you give.
    C.C.E., canada

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 1:20 am #

    houston, tx next tour please

  31. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 1:29 am #

    hahah this guy looks like you, I thought he was some relative of you..

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 2:26 am #

    At least if you did jump out of a window Kilbey that big nose of yours would cushion the fall.

  33. avatar
    Tim_G | 11 July 2009 at 2:54 am #

    I remember being at a Wolfgang Press gig in the Jazz Cafe in Camden/London, when an obnoxious bloke stood at the foot of the (small) stage and hurled verbal abuse at Mick Allen (singer) which he tried to ignore to keep in the zone.

    Some tried to 'quietly' drag jerk away but he wouldn't go – he had some agenda to deliver. So what happened?

    Well, in mid-song, Mick head-butted jerk fair-square on his nose, did not miss a beat in the singing, blood went everywhere; jerk left.

    I know violence is not the answer, and but you gotta use whatever means you got to hand.

    Comedians deal with hecklers through quick repartee – but it's hard to deal with idiots who are just annoying and not really doing harm as such simply because they just don't realise the real damage they are causing.

    Maybe offer to buy them a drink so long as they stay away from the stage and be quiet!

  34. avatar
    niggling | 11 July 2009 at 2:58 am #

    You guys should go punk rock.

  35. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 3:02 am #

    Steve, was reading Simple Minds' Jim Kerr's blog today….thought you might find it interesting…

    50 And Not Out !
    Item added: Wednesday 01st of July 2009

    I blinked and now it’s here. It is July that I am talking about and with me being the Cancer that I am, this July in particular will be a little more of note than usual — given that I will become 50 years old.

    I am not one that celebrates birthdays in any major way; I get kind of embarrassed truth be told. But those birthdays that have a zero in them are of course a wee bit more special I guess, and that is probably why people have been asking me how significant it is for me to be 50, and how it feels to be continuing to make music at this age.
    The answer is that I have no idea yet how it feels to be fifty, ask me in twelve months time and I will have more of a clue. It felt great being 49 however and I will always look back on this last twelve months as the definitive rebirth period of Simple Minds, as well as being the year where I personally felt more energised creatively than ever.

    Proof of that is not only the amount of songs I have worked on over this period, but hopefully the quality inherent. With energy to burn I feel that I could easily be involved in not one – but two groups at the moment – and come to think of it, what is there to say that that could not happen. I would not mind another challenge to keep me fresh and sort of rejuvenated, that’s for sure. I am certainly enjoying singing more than ever and the kind of satisfaction that comes from sending an audience home happy still has no equal.

    And what can I say about the journey I have been on over the years leading up to this day? So much to tell, but that will have to wait a bit yet. There needs to be calm to reflect and I am too much on the move at the moment. As for the wisdom's that may have come with all the experience. What wisdom? I am no teacher; still a scholar scrapping around trying to make whatever sense there is to be made in all of this. In fact I am as much the 'Lost Boy" now as I was when we dreamed this thing up all those years ago. Lost in music. Lost in the desire to get better. Lost in a journey that has no image or idea of what it feels like to even begin contemplating a final destination. I travel with no map, no schedule, little baggage, and no respect for borders. Am I, as I like to think, a long distance runner who cares not a jot where the finishing line is meant to be. Or do I delude myself, staggering around happily, a punch drunk boxer who does not know when he is beaten? The chances are I am probably a bit both.

    And so to the important issue of birthday presents? What would I want on this special day? Nothing is the answer! I already have the gift that I have wanted for so long, thank you very much. It came earlier this year, it is called Graffiti Soul and according to the radio station I was listening to while in the car yesterday, β€œIt is as good, if not better than any other record released this year!” (Wow! He must have got the cheque!!!) And with that I move on into the future, no fixed route, and no big dream. Only a desire to be ready for whatever it is that lies around the corner.

    The stars will lead the way after all!

    Jim Kerr

  36. avatar
    David Connell | 11 July 2009 at 4:00 am #

    "Obama is a war criminal, plain and simple."

    Oh, please elaborate. How the f–k do you come to this conclusion?

  37. avatar
    thanks | 11 July 2009 at 4:25 am #

    Thanks for the show in Albany. Best. Show. Ever.

  38. avatar
    princey | 11 July 2009 at 4:52 am #

    Good luck tonight and enjoy the rest, make most of the warm weather there sk, itsa freezing back here in oz πŸ™‚
    love Amanda

  39. avatar
    davem | 11 July 2009 at 5:23 am #

    Two more shows before home.
    Safe travels.

  40. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 7:02 am #

    "you try to be consoling
    people say don't condescend"

    It does seem futile,
    but thanks for trying, for listening.

    So sad I missed you in Albany.


  41. avatar
    WantonMyth | 11 July 2009 at 8:11 am #

    Your philosophy got my cogs turning.

  42. avatar
    Lucky guy | 11 July 2009 at 9:04 am #

    Steve. In my Untitled #23 copy there were two CDs instead of one. Did I won any prize for that? Yeaah. I know. The prize is the additional disc. It will go straight to my car.

  43. avatar
    Sir Cedric Pernath Butterworth, Esq. | 11 July 2009 at 9:37 am #

    obama started the iraq war, too, as well as the afganistan war, the and he started the vietnam war, too. he spent all the dough gwb had saved during the last 8 years in a mere two weeks on some really gay commie stuff i don't really understand. obama killed my harddisk and stole marty's guitars in 1990. he also invented terrorism. he takes from the poor and gives to the rich, dirty bitch. he closed down detroit and threw away the key. he's dangerous and me and my little friends from the john wilkes booth revival band will soon waddle to washington!

  44. avatar
    Brenton Diaz | 11 July 2009 at 12:31 pm #

    Liked your blog today…those dichotomies you mentioned are so true, and I wrestle with them daily.

    Did I mention to you how blown away I was by the Buffalo show? I also picked up Painkiller and (you can tell MWP) Nightjar, and LOVE them both, even though they are very different discs. I'm just sad that more merch (the book, your cd/book, your dvd) weren't available…but otherwise, what a great show!!

  45. avatar
    Brenton Diaz | 11 July 2009 at 12:34 pm #

    And, this is what I wrote on a message board about the Buffalo show:

    Then, after what seemed like a long delay, with roadies setting up a lot of guitars, the Church came out. Now, I figured their set was going to be kinda spacey and demure like Franklin's was, but right away they came out and hit HARD and LOUD with a rocking song. The Church has two guitarists, and on this song one of them, Marty Willson-Piper, was just tearing up his guitar…it was insane! The band has so much energy…I was worn out just watching them. On some songs, Willson-Piper was the star with his guitar playing (and he switched off with the bassist at times and played some really cool basslines, too), but I think for me the guitar hero last night was Peter Koppes…now to look at him he is kind of a geeky, uninterested looking guy…tall and lanky and such, but HOLY SMOKES the man played all kinds of insane solos and guitar lines all night. Honestly, it was crazy. Especially since he made it look easy. The lead singer, Steve Kilbey, sounded pretty good for a live show, but he also had a really corny sense of humour which was pretty funny…he pretends like he takes himself seriously but he really doesn't. He is the bassist usually, too and he played some nice stuff. He had tons of energy, running up and down the stage, dancing around, truly looking like he was having a great time. Man…honestly, I don't know what else to say…the show was terrific. It was a loud, rocking show, something that I didn't quite expect that way, but awesome. I sat on the side Koppes was playing on, and it was just cool watching the man do his thing. Even though I really liked the rocking stuff, I think my favourite moments of the show were the songs where the pulled out dreamier material (Day 5, Happenstance, the first part of Hotel womb before it became yet another extended rocking jam), but it was all amazing. DOn't get me wrong..I loved the rock jams, too.

  46. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 1:01 pm #

    Was reading through some of the links posted on the band's Twitter (yawn) link.

    Good laugh to read about your bass playing on Deadman's Hand, as well as the author's suggestion that your vocal style has been influenced by (cough, splutter) Bono!

  47. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 2:32 pm #

    Anyone has the right to express your opinions, even in music, but I personally don't like politics and art mixed.

    ALL politician only wants power and money, don't be iluded, don't go into the dirt. Politics + art = fascism (or socialism, and any other "ism").

    The Church never mixed the things, but I would be very sad if they do so.

    Kilbey and other guys in the band could have their opinions, and I really don't give a thought for it, because all I want is just to hear the damn music!

  48. avatar
    Maria | 11 July 2009 at 2:55 pm #

    Thanks for a great show in Albany last night. A lovely, satisfying & stimulating interlude. Hope you liked our "Egg."

  49. avatar
    Dave | 11 July 2009 at 3:42 pm #

    as a bass & guitar myself, Kilby is a sensational bassist. Plays in the right places, and doesn't play in the right places. His lines breath and drive the music w/ wing-man TP. I love the punchier tone of his Jazz Bass on the new material. I envy those who got to see them on this tour. I hope to see more live video πŸ™‚

  50. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 5:24 pm #

    Steve, While I was watching you guys play in Foxboro, New York, and Conn. the last 26 (!!) years of seeing you perform played out in my mind. I thought back to the first time I saw you in 1984 at Maxwell's in Hoboken. The excitement and elation that I felt at finally getting to see my favorite band. Fast forward
    26 years later and you STILL are my favorite band and no other band on this earth can produce the kind of beauty that you guys achieve on stage. I know it sounds corny but it was truly an emotional experience seeing you guys sounding so fucking amazing at this stage of the game. Always remember how much your music has affected the quality of certain people's lives over the years. The most amazing part of this is that Untitled #23 is (in my opinion) probably your best album EVER and that's really amazing to comprehend at this point.

  51. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 6:21 pm #

    It's ok I worry that my city is going down the tubes. the liberals want to let all the asylum seekers in probably for genuine compassionate reasons. But I just want my city to stay the same. I feel ashamed sometimes for being so conservative. It's probably not PC, but hey. every where is like every where else now. europe is fucked and it makes me weep.

  52. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 6:28 pm #

    ;-> On that particular night at least! xoxox

  53. avatar
    Kevin | 11 July 2009 at 6:56 pm #

    Steve, in case you get a bit of a chance to hang in Ottawa, here are some tips for ya:
    Vegetarian / good food: Som Tum (Thai – Kent and Lisgar); Savannah Cafe (Carribean fusion – Gilmour and Kent.
    Pub: The Manx (also great food – Elgin & Frank).
    See you at the show.

  54. avatar
    Altres | 11 July 2009 at 7:55 pm #

    In every bowl of roses you always get pricks. I'd have loved to have been there and given him a load of vulgar language in a harsh Scottish accent. Actually, I just wish I'd been there period, to all of the gigs. Is Ernst on tour?

    I wonder if Europe is possible? πŸ˜€


  55. avatar
    Altres | 11 July 2009 at 8:03 pm #

    Oh, and Jim Kerr is a twat of the highest order. The WC Fields of pop. If Hendrix or Lennon had the talent level of Jim Kerr they'd still be alive today.

    That's all. πŸ˜€


  56. avatar
    JJ | 11 July 2009 at 9:00 pm #

    I was behind he cable-grabber, a few rows back, – it was inconsequential to me. I did like Marty's comment that he could be electrocuted, die, then sue the theatre (as a dead guy). It was only a temporary blip in a stellar performance in an intimate theatre setting in a beautiful New England town. The townspeople should give the band the big white house as a gift, unless it really WAS an asylum/sanitarium. Wonder what kind of crowd Kevin Costner will pull at Ridgefield Playhouse a few weeks hence (?) Looked like Rick Wakeman was there recently; interesting.

    So glad I was able to make the trip up from the sweltering Atlanta – loved the comfortable weather in Connecticut. Stayed in an "Olde Inn" where the windows actually worked, and kept them open for the night. Next time journey back to Atlanta, and you will be treated well, like 2006.

    The band are playing as well as ever, with no decline nor decay; though Peter & Marty seemed a bit taken back when you referred to them as "these old guys", to laughter in the crowd. Great opening band as well. Was gratifying to see a guy up front with his young son (maybe 15?) enjoying the music. Also a pleasure to see Mr. Michael Barone after quite a few years.

    Still floaty and drifting above my normal circumstances from the lift you provided, wish I could make Quebec City, as always,


  57. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 10:46 pm #

    Forget that guy.
    The show was great, the music rocked, and the band looked great.
    One of the best shows that I have been to.
    Please make sure to come through Connecticut on your next trip to the States.
    – J

  58. avatar
    James | 11 July 2009 at 11:22 pm #

    How has Craig been holding up on the tour? I've seen a bunch of live video on youtube (and the best so far was done by KEXP at the Triple Door in Seatlle) and he really adds to the band. He has a real mysterious look and his keyboard parts are excellent. You should add him as a permanent member.

  59. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 July 2009 at 11:27 pm #

    It is getting harder and harder to tolerate all the jerks that go to shows these days. It's bad enough to have to stand through a show stuffed into a tiny space. The thing I just don't get is how noisy so many people are. The last few shows I've gone to were ruined by obnoxious, loud people whose mentality I found incomprehensible. Too much alcohol and not enough jazz and acid.

  60. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 July 2009 at 2:06 pm #

    Congratulations, australian Mark Weber won a F1 gran prix today.

    Australia doesn't win a F1 gran prix since 1981.

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