posted on July 16, 2010 at 10:02 am

*todays sage advice from billy at the icebergs pool

i hate the tv
it really is a terrible thing
new research shows over 3 hours a day increasing your chance of heart attack
over 33%
sure i dont mind a good wildlife doco or the occasional thing
like deadwood or sopranos or underbelly
but most of it is fucking garbage
especially reality shows
i pity the poor mugs glued to the idiot box
their brains in some half life state
their hearts slowly choking
people without a life
wasting the life they could have watching some stupid show
turn the telly off
put down the beer
ditch the meat n be something
make something outta yerself
its killing ya
its killing conversation
its draining yer energy
it’ll turn you into a used up clown
believe me ive seen it happen
imagine the good old days before it came along
when people’d you know uh…converse n stuff
i could do without it
the next house i have i aint gonna have one n thats a promise
i aint got time to sit there like fool drooling over some old nonsense
go on, i dare ya, turn it off
write a poem
have a walk
do some yoga
but the cretin-inducing box and the hollow zombies that worship it
go on

47 Responses to “if you find a mug punter, cuddle him…he’ll die in your arms*”

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    persephone2u | 16 July 2010 at 10:30 am #

    What's a mug punter?

    Excellent advice about the TV. I don't even know what Deadwood or Underbelly are and I refuse to watch the Sopranos, yet another show about the mob (like that's never been done before in Hollywood, hmmmm). Curb Your Enthusiasm is the only decent show that's been put out in the past decade and the rest I remain purposely ignorant of. Total waste of time.

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    eek | 16 July 2010 at 10:43 am #

    This is SO politically incorrect, but yep, "the idiot box" is the reason I have one in my house. She seems to like it anyway, and it's not exactly going to dumb her down much further…. 😉

    But for me, yeah, not much worth watching, so I don't. Besides, the Kilbey/Kennedy dvd plays just fine on my computer! 🙂

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    DavidP | 16 July 2010 at 10:56 am #

    yeah, too much TV makes people passive
    I have not had a TV for almost 5 years
    the only time I see TV now is when I go over to me mums
    like you say, the odd doco or something I think is fine but so many other shows are utter rubbish
    even the news programs are questionable
    mind you it is just as possible to waste so much time on the internet as well and there's loads of rubbish on the net too
    a lot of people want to sit back and be entertained all the time, that's part of the trouble
    why is fictional misery considered entertainment?
    too many people enjoy the low vibrations of lower emotions, that's why there is a market for that sort of thing I guess
    so much time and effort and resources and money goes into producing rubbish for people to further waste their time on

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    redgrevillea | 16 July 2010 at 11:25 am #

    I rarely watch tv as I can only tolerate it in very small doses. I think that stems from my early years where I sat in front of the telly with my parents (more like grandparents) who just had it on all the time and never ever spoke. dad was always sozzled on the sauce anyway. fucking weird, i never knew what the fuck was going on. so that's why to this day i sometimes take bemusement with elvis and his tele-shooting habits.

    nevertheless i've made the effort now to turn it on to watch Bondi Vet and all the pet and animal shows. And when you're on it I'll watch it too. Otherwise…'s too short, man.

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    Anonymous | 16 July 2010 at 11:37 am #

    I turned the TV off a long time ago. Now, it's time to step away from the computer monitor. Of course, if we all did that, you'd just be "talking" to yourself, Mr. Kilbey. Hmmmmm….and so would I. Then I'd actually have to go out into the world and talk to "real" people. May not be ready for that step, yet.

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    veleska1970 | 16 July 2010 at 12:39 pm #

    you're right~~there's a lot of garbage on tv nowadays. the only thing i can stand to watch anymore are documentaries on the discovery and national geographic channels. i hate reality shows. they seem so fake to me. i don't think i could "be myself" if i had an entire camera crew following me around recording my every move. so i think those shows are scripted.

    have a good day, steve.

    lotza love….

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    cazziem | 16 July 2010 at 12:42 pm #

    I honestly don't remember the last time I sat and watched a TV programme as such, although it comes in real handy for watching films, not to mention my church n SK DVDs, so the screen is considerably larger than my pc monitor. That said it is kinda irksome that I have to pay over £150.00 for the privilege of NOT watching TV!

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    Broken Toys and Heros | 16 July 2010 at 1:16 pm #

    The "new" idiot box for this/our generation is the laptop/computer. How many times a day/week do we find ourselves plopped down in front of a screen 1/4 or more the size of the "original idiot box". skimming, scanning, searching for an alternative existence. I am in that/this group myself. I am trying to return to my "media" roots and JUST READ again. I found some great new books, albeit from amazon (LOL) and I am trying to escape back into the "written word"

    Maybe we all should give more attention to the book and a little less to the web, unless ur wondering what SK is up to.

    ALL have a great weekend !!!


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    evilren | 16 July 2010 at 1:19 pm #

    Underbelly and Deadwood! Yes I did enjoy those
    shows, but I did disconnect the idiot box 2 months
    back. I now talk to my neighbors and spend more
    time outdoors like I used to in my younger years, when I didn't own a tv. Now I gotta go, have a good
    night or whatever time it is down under Steve.


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    restaurant mark | 16 July 2010 at 2:01 pm #

    we spend plenty of time listening to music here…and in my case working on music too. but we do watch our share of tv. never reality shows though…can't stand them. underbelly is a good one, steve. also we like dexter, weeds, californication, and breaking bad. i get my nightly daily show fix too. other than that, a couple of sitcoms…the office, big bang theory, modern family. we watch a good bit of discovery and the do it yourself network, which is fixing your house/yard techniques and ideas. there's a series on now called through the wormhole…on discovery, i think. it's narrated by morgan freeman…about the universe and things…very interesting. there's good shows on…you just have to weed through the crap…and make sure you still spend time doing other things too. we record most everything on our dvr and watch when we want to…and fast forward through the commercials, which is great. television isn't evil…no more so than my computer that at sit tapping away on…

    take care

  11. avatar
    Shaman Ron | 16 July 2010 at 2:05 pm #

    Was just discussing the other day to some youngsters how things today are so damaged by technology in communications and television.

    They said, "How so?"

    I said in the 80's and back, we had no real computers, no cell phones, barely anyone had a pager, no internet, no XM, no GPS and only 3 or 4 tv stations.

    Back in the 80s and prior, we would call each other via house phone. We would talk to each other in person and make plans; then be there for those plans. When you saw a friend you had real conversations catching up on life. We spent time with our children playing and teaching them outside or with primitive toys.

    Today, cell phones allow people to simply cancel and appointment, date or plans (no responsibility or sense of cause and effect). The internet allows us to follow every one of our friends lives, so when we see them in person there is nothing to talk about and no connection (plans with friends doesn't hold the same luster or importance). The people today are fat, lazy and won't even leave the home if its too hot out or raining (back in the days we went out into the elements with no problem). Television today is nothing more then a propaganda machine feeding you Shit and brainwashing (look at the bent minds of our youth which knows every character on a TV show, but can't tell you were Canada or Brazil is on a map).

    Fact is: technology is great yes, but it is destroying our our natural and primal instincts. Those basic instincts are what allows humans to stay ahead of the curve with regards to survival. It doesn't look good!

    Cheers (lol),
    Shaman Ron

  12. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 16 July 2010 at 2:37 pm #

    SK is a sage. I'm a news junkie and the news enrages me. TOO much TV FOR ME. Deadwood was a fantastic series SK. It went of the air because the cretinous masses prefer junk TV like Friends, American Idol, The Mentalist and other ludicrous shows.

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    Andrea | 16 July 2010 at 3:00 pm #

    I am watching Tri Nations rugby and I definitely enjoy it. We have superb commentators on sky tv here in Italy, and that's basically all I watch these days, it's one match per week so I hope my arteries can stand it. In the wintertime, i watch winter sports especially biathlon and ski jumping which I enjoy very much- yes you're right, most Italians don't even know those sports exist. But you see, Italians only know about association football and that's all they f*%&ing care, so I am like a white fly here. It's like with the Church, only an enlighted minority know about it, and when you know about it, you can never return to the rubbish they try to sell you on radio and MTV alike. So, Forget the radio (who said it? mmmm…. who will it be?), and the TV as well !


  14. avatar
    Andrea | 16 July 2010 at 3:02 pm #

    @ princey
    thanks, same here 🙂

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    Anonymous | 16 July 2010 at 3:07 pm #

    but without tv how could you still see I Love Lucy re-runs and Garbo and Grant (etc.) films?
    Once we taped a bunch of Lucy's little dance moments and then split screen with Bowie performing during Thin White Duke Stage and forward, moving around/dancing. Noticeable how close in rythm the two are… but then it was pointed out that when Iggy did Lust For Life, that's one song co-wrote or not, that Bowie couldn't pull off correctly; BUT that he liked the beat so much, that we supposed he hung out attempting to accomplish his own version of it… and that's how he came up with his little jitter-bounce move he started doing on stage: Lust For Life was the beginning. And then you go to YouTube on the laptop and realize he did actually cover that song, but it (like you supposed above) came out melodramatic and yuck! And, there you have it.

    See, there is a definite need for both television and computers.

  16. avatar
    robertmadore | 16 July 2010 at 3:10 pm #

    Haven't owned a TV since 1993. Low frequency tripe.

  17. avatar
    Anonymous | 16 July 2010 at 3:26 pm #

    Right on SK-
    The TV turned into the VCR which morphed into the home computer that turned into the laptop which has shrunk to the iPhone and grew to the iPad. People can't curse the TV when they have their nose buried 24/7 in the damn latest time wasting gadget.
    The recent storms in the US that blacked out chunks of the East had people moaning that their battery life was going on their techtoys. WAH! I broke out a candle and read a book outside.
    Print is dying because it's so god damned expensive…sadly. But a books battery life is forever.

  18. avatar
    Tanyakc65 | 16 July 2010 at 4:14 pm #

    Ever notice the instant calm & peace after you turn off the blaring the TV?

  19. avatar
    Anonymous | 16 July 2010 at 4:24 pm #

    Imagine life with out this idiot box called the computer. Also the cell phone. Come on.

  20. avatar
    Ellen | 16 July 2010 at 5:32 pm #

    You said a mouthful. I could write an essay on the subject … from personal experience, of course.

    I developed the habit of NOT turning on the TV unless there is something that I absolutely want to watch. Otherwise, off it remains…

  21. avatar
    Anonymous | 16 July 2010 at 5:57 pm #

    and, given identical display technology… turn off the internet too… i guess

  22. avatar
    John Garratt | 16 July 2010 at 6:00 pm #

    Believe me, the world would be better off if I watched TV instead of trying to write a poem.

  23. avatar
    davem | 16 July 2010 at 6:48 pm #

    This is a soap-free house – at least when I'm at home.
    I know you're not keen on sport but I will watch some of the Open Championship on the beeb this weekend and I rarely miss Match of The Day in the footie season – I'm not going to apologise for it!! For us baby-boomers it's part of our heritage…Saturday night includes Doctor Who and MOTD.
    It's true there are a lot of shite programmes on the goggle-box but goodness knows the charts are full of shite music too…… lot's of (most) films are crap.
    All things in moderation…except The Church and mushroom aloo balti!

  24. avatar
    i.harrison71 | 16 July 2010 at 8:58 pm #

    steve its time to buy a 50 inch plasma tv, no on second thoughts you need one of those fan dangled 3d tv's, really you do!!

  25. avatar
    verdelay | 16 July 2010 at 9:19 pm #

    Sage advice, Killer. Gave up our box a couple of years ago. Too tight to pay the license fee.

    Tonight's entertainment?

    "July" by July
    "Ogden's Nut Gone Flake" by The Small Faces
    "Mr Fantasy" by Traffic
    and currently
    "S.F. Sorrow" by The Pretty Things

    Vegie sausages and butter bean salad for din dins, writing a letter to my old man, read an article in The Word (mag) on Steve Winwood, an interview on Radio 4 with Robert Forster, a spot of inter-noodling (right now) and probably the London Review of Books before beddy-byes.

    That's Friday night for yours truly, after a long week's slog in the Library of Babble.

    Off to that London tomorrow for to visit Soanes Museum, the Hunterian, take in some contemporary dance and some Afghan food in the even, then a saunter through Kew Gardens on Sunday.

    What a cultured fucker I am.

    No TV required.

    Bless ya cotton socks,


  26. avatar
    the dean | 16 July 2010 at 9:41 pm #

    after a boring day at work a comfortably numb night of tv has a certain appeal.
    Fortunately here in the black hills of nsw tv reception is minimal.
    I therefore live in blessed bliss as to who the world's fattest cook is or other orwellian precept shows.
    Still I do like a good movie, something classic, something dramatic, great music…to little of that these days…once upon a time in the west…bring on those twanging guitars and spanish trumpets.

  27. avatar
    EDD | 16 July 2010 at 9:53 pm #

    I'm with ya on alota things Steve But TV?……….

  28. avatar
    Thomas Thomsen, Denmark | 16 July 2010 at 10:52 pm #

    I don't really have the time to watch that much TV. I absolutely love Mad Men, though (by the Sopranos creators).

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    princey | 16 July 2010 at 11:18 pm #

    I agree with Broken Toys and Heroes, the new tv is the giant screen computer. If people don't watch telly it's probably cos they're glued to the computer screen, but at least we can choose what to read/look/listen to, to waste away the hours.

    I have to admit I love watching my Clint Eastwood movies on tv, on my comfy couch,with my comfy snacks and a drink, or having a kiddie-movie-night with our son on the weekend, it can be a relaxing thing to do, if you choose interesting stuff to watch that is (but limited hours of course!) But as for watching what's available on Aussie tv, yep, it's a loada absolute crap!!! Couldn't stand watching Underbelly and too many CSI/murder programs(they're really running out of ideas) I loved watching "Grand Design" on ABC, that's all that stood out for me.

    Anyways, no tv today, it's sunny outside, my son's at his morning footy activity with daddy, I've got my music on loud, it's all I need to make me happy!

    Have a beautiful day one and all,
    love Amanda

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 17 July 2010 at 1:10 am #

    I love the re-runs of Three Stooges, man. Curly, Larry, Mo (and sometimes Shemp).

    But they don't come on anymore, why?

    Wilfred P

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    pardon my heart | 17 July 2010 at 1:21 am #

    TV, media is controlled by a few people these days, the rupert murdochs of the world, very scary, refuse to watch any fox programming, too far right for me, so much more fun to be doing other things.

  32. avatar
    Donna | 17 July 2010 at 1:49 am #

    We didn't have cable TV from 1994 until 2008!! We did have a tv to watch videos and dvds, though. I finally succumbed because I'm convinced that my daughter will be lying on some shrink's couch some day, traumatized because she never got to watch American Idol while growing up!!

    We love to watch movies, though. And I confess that I've developed the habit of spending 1 to 2 hours on my lap top each night. The time just FLIES by, and before I know it, I'm going to bed waaaay too late. (I prefer this to the dreaded night-time snacking, however!!)

    Well Steve….(and everyone else!) i hope you're well. Have a good one!

  33. avatar
    Anonymous | 17 July 2010 at 3:02 am #

    Very cool piccies on Thurs, look good on your cd/dvd.

    No Masterchef sk? Have to admit it got me into it this series. At least I'm motivated to try some new recipies, hoping tonites one turns out, or it may be dial a pizza.

    Have a good weekend.

    Peace & love

  34. avatar
    eek | 17 July 2010 at 4:58 am #

    Ron — the 80's as the good old days when everything was idyllic? Hahahaha!!! I think you and I must have lived in different dimensions….

    John G. — LOL!! I'll cop to that, too. Bad tv vs bad poetry — whew…that's quite a toss up.

  35. avatar
    Anonymous | 17 July 2010 at 10:13 am #

    dumb down on a saturday night

    numb out to the green light

  36. avatar
    Anonymous | 17 July 2010 at 7:38 pm #

    yip tv aint great the net has its rubbish bits as well a man can spend way to much time lookin at bare arsed women on this thing although we all enjoy it really

    anyway make sure you check out the film Inception its kilbeytastic dreams within dreams within dreams you'll feel right at home its a goodun. which is a real rarity these days

  37. avatar
    Melquiades | 17 July 2010 at 7:45 pm #

    And the yeahs have it. If I do watch tv it's def informative subjects (docos, history, spirituality, phenoms, myth) or films of curious nature. not a sitcom watcher and yes reality tv is not reality at all. it's far from reality. a form of slothen voyeurism.

    btw, does the internet count? 😉 (guilty as charged. as we speak as a matter of fact)

    btw, I covered Myrrh – see it here.

  38. avatar
    fantasticandy | 18 July 2010 at 12:12 am #

    hey harry!
    that july album's really something isn't it?
    brit psych-pop at it's best.

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    Anonymous | 18 July 2010 at 12:14 am #

    Whereas mooching about the world wide web half the day is just so edifying and uplifting…

    Look man, is there any way you could publish an electronic list of verboten activities – the crossings-out, asterisks and sub-clauses are killing me. I'm clear on meat and yoga, but where do we stand today on vitriol, vodka and vegeta? Are opiates out and hallucinogens in? Are we mining the gossip mag headlines for confirmation of our moral and intellectual superiority or passing right by them? What about wringing a few shekels out of nostalgia for 80s rock this month – yes or no? An exact idea of acceptable occupations would be nice too, it's been confusing at times. I know you looooove to think about those backstage doctors and academics, but I can't remember if new-age charlatans peddling potentially deadly herbal/floral concoctions are unthinkable or beyond reproach. Finally the most confusing at all – are we dropping into our lyrics the kind of pop culture that can only have been delivered by the telly or are we dropping that practice like (a) hot rock?

    So confusing for a young player seeking the righteous path. Oh I was blushing in shame for a moment there, until one of the acolytes pointed out that Mad Men is made by the same genius crowd as the Sopranos. Phew, that was a close one, by Toutatis!

    Signed Eternally Grateful Recipient of The Rules That, Based on the Evidence Over Recent Months, Bring You Yourself Such Unending Happiness and Fulfillment.

    P.S.So glad I have you in my life now that Nathan Pritikin is dead.

  40. avatar
    ASSMIDGET | 18 July 2010 at 2:21 am #

    My wasted life is about 90% computer games. I don't converse much because 90% of the people I meet act just like those fake ass douche bags on reality shows. Year 2 no meat.

  41. avatar
    Hellbound Heart | 18 July 2010 at 3:39 am #

    ….so much tv is utter dross but i have to admit a weakness for the odd show……still haven't gotten over my x files weakness or liking of twin peaks or northern exposure…notice how they're '90's shows?….loved what i saw of underbelly and speaking of the mighty boosh, did you see that michael guy who was guest programmer for rage? god he put some great songs up last night….
    LOVE reading books….LOVE it, have got some bloody rippers coming to me via my mail box….

    love always…..

  42. avatar
    Anonymous | 18 July 2010 at 3:40 am #

    There are indeed worse things than the telly Steve, ie, tossing in a decade chasing the ol white horse. You are a wonderful artist, leave the preaching to the pope. I work 65 hours per week in a factory and enjoy winding down on the weekends with a few beers and a ball game with me blokes. Try working those hours in a factory and then scratching out a poem for relaxation. Jesus, how far removed from reality are you my friend?

  43. avatar
    Anonymous | 18 July 2010 at 8:35 am #

    Anon at 10.14am soooo funny.
    Dont ya get it. Its all kult kilbey here.
    Whatever the delusional mess-iah says goes.
    Yes he changes his mind probably more often than his undies.
    Do not question, you are not worthy.
    All hail the moral comp-arse kilby

  44. avatar
    Anonymous | 18 July 2010 at 3:21 pm #

    Might have to kick the habits and join your austerity program sk! You seem to be doing very well considering. I'm routing for you!

    scared (to be) straight

  45. avatar
    EDD | 18 July 2010 at 6:39 pm #

    He don't like TV….some people don't like that he don't like things……As a creative artisic person of 55 years….I don't mind taking a little guidence from someone who's been around….and anyway who wants to be in touch with this reality too much….ever try writing for relaxation…seems to simple, right… works but not for everyone…I think Steve would agree…If you wanna watch TV, watch TV….if you wanna trip, then trip……if you wanna drink, then get drunk….if you wanna take time to get to know yerself and find out what works for you instead of blaming someone elses opinion for your decisions in life….don't pin it on him…..

  46. avatar
    isolde | 19 July 2010 at 7:24 am #

    i just spent 5 weeks minding a flat with foxtel watching fashion tv catwalk parades haute couture etc from all over the world it was GREAT!! for breaks I flicked between several versions of MTV and V, they are replaying heaps of clips from the 80s lots we didn't get to see here in Oz at the time

  47. avatar
    Anonymous | 19 July 2010 at 9:32 am #

    Like everything it is a matter of balance.

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