posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:14 pm

a rent in reality + ocean glimpsed

11 11 11

the day ww1 finished in 1918

still im not exactly sure why it had to be

i dont understand what that war was for

sure archduke ferdinand got hit

but this was slaughter on an undreamt of scale

the most pointless useless bloody heartbreaking war of all

theyre still digging guys up who were churned into the mud

bits n pieces of 19 year old germans n french n english n americans

why? for fucks sake why?

why do we trust em?

why did we ever trust em?

the same guys bankrolling both sides too

i’d say thats somewhat immoral on a cosmic scale

anyway

well we sure got us some young soldiers killed

what incredible reason necessitated this butchery of young men?

the same old arrogant crowd who dont fight in the wars themselves

its a wonder …..did they have any consciences at all?

the generals and lords and kaisers and admirals

ww1 is an atrocity against ourselves

but who can even begin to say why?

the common man trusted that someone must know why

werent the enemy evil?

didnt we owe em one from napoleonic days?

no wait a minute…

has every fucking country in europe had a war with each other?

britain has been invaded by italy by germany by denmark by france

plus it has fought with holland spain portugal russia india arabia

man theres so much bad blood everywhere who can untangle it?

and a steady stream of villainy deprivation ignorance and war

wars all over the place some lasting a century

we will never learn tho will we

if ww1 doesnt make humanity learn what fucking well will?

the germans n english are mates now so are the frenchies

why did all the people have to die to achieve this?

if you think war is any fun

go to the war memorial in canberra

walk down the ww1 wing and you can still get a whiff of the trenches

even behind glass the uniforms of dead men give off that faint stench

the war happened and some people made a lot of money out of it

it was good for business and its a bit of a shame about all the carnage

the great war

a war to end all wars they said …

but theyre still coming atcha with new ones

dont ask me

im just a singer

 

33 Responses to “in human we hope less war”

  1. avatar
    andy | 11 November 2011 at 6:43 pm #

    just caught-up with yesterday’s entry….
    i have no idea why the british press ignore you so
    the UK needs you guys real bad!
    oddly…they now adore and revere VDGG….
    so there IS hope?
    but how to break through?
    the x-factor mentality is all-pervasive here…oh yes,there’s worse
    than ac/dc out there……

    back on topic….war’s a whore.

  2. Kraig
    Kraig | 11 November 2011 at 6:54 pm #

    Wait until the last great war that’s suppose to last a thousand years! Hmmm, after Dec 2012?

    • nina
      That Lady | 11 November 2011 at 8:32 pm #

      evolution to a higher consciousness = war???? wtf…..

  3. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 November 2011 at 8:29 pm #

    no war is definitely no fun
    kinda off subject because it’s ww2 not ww1 but this is straight from my browsing history of 2 days ago:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_Siege_of_Leningrad_on_the_city
    my hometown was ordered to be erased from the face of the earth
    my mother survived this, miraculously, the whole 900 days, and she remembers even though she was a small child. her house was destroyed by a bomb while she was in a bomb shelter.

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    Narelle | 11 November 2011 at 8:41 pm #

    for a short period…lived across the road from the War Memorial…and it is so graphic
    the main players…numskulls then and numskulls now
    a very sad reminder of human evil

  5. avatar
    Jesiah6 | 11 November 2011 at 10:00 pm #

    What is it good for…?

  6. avatar
    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 11 November 2011 at 10:15 pm #

    Both my grandfathers fought in that war and lost their bothers, a total of 5. I remember them briefly as if in a totally different life…a dream. But I do remember their ruff voices, the smell of tobacco, the smell of alcohol. They would share stories and stories but I am to young to remember any or each of them.

    My father stormed the beaches in Normandy in WW2 at the age of 17. He also was a mountain of a man. A statue of confidence. When he was asked why he faked his documents to go to war at such an early age, it was because his 2 older brothers were called to arms by their country, my country. My father did not want to be left home alone or like his father and father-in law : brotherless. Well, that seemed to turn out all right. All 3 of them came home alive. But I remember my uncles being vicious and cruel. Hardened by those dreadful experiences. When I was old enough, and brave enough, I asked my father if he killed anyone during war. He said yes, to many to remember. I asked if my uncles had done the same and he replied no, that’s why they are always so bitter.

    My mothers youngest brother, my uncle Otto Trinka, was drafted into the Vietnam war. He was there for only a brief time I was told. He came home shellshocked and addicted to heroin. He lived with my family for a short period of time and committed suicide one quiet morning. I remember hearing my mother weeping and my grandmother screaming. My father found a diary, more like a log from uncle Otto’s short time in Vietnam. In it read days or nights that he was involved in fire-fights and poorly drawn crossbones for those he believed he killed. Later in life, I asked my father to see the book, but he said it was destroyed. I asked him if he remembered the book and he replied – yes “but it just couldn’t be true” …I asked him why and he said there were 9 crossbones poorly drawn in the book and 3 of them were drawn very small as if to imply children.
    This is all very real and I swear on my children the truth. War hardened and destroyed my family. Yet, my father was the only one who left it there, overseas, over there and did not bring it home. I loved him dearly when he was alive and he passed away when I was 18, just old enough to be drafted into war but luckily no war was occurring.

    Darrin

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      BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 12 November 2011 at 1:05 pm #

      Steve-
      Iv spent most of my friday evening reading over information from different sources of all the conflicts, battles, on land – sea- and air, for WW1 from 1914- November 11, 1918 and being a history buff I thought is was going to intrigue me. It actually, as you stated in your blog and as many friends and fans will soon join in to comment on, it made no sense whatsoever. The entire war played out like a live version of the board game known as RISK. I stopped reading what I found to be the true ignorance of man and put on some music to heal. What a fucked up species we all are. We have no concept or idea how truly lucky we are to even still exist. That was an intense couple hours and all I could think about was the pure senselessness of it all. The tragic loss of so many human lives. I closed my eyes and said a prayer for all of them, all who are serving now, and all of us who are enjoying freedoms built on the blood of the unknowns who made the ultimate sacrifice.

      Darrin

  7. avatar
    mime | 11 November 2011 at 10:22 pm #

    Nationalism, that’s what it was all about.

  8. avatar
    david duchow | 11 November 2011 at 11:58 pm #

    …..and your singing and songwriting is 1000 times the “value” of the atrocities that mankind perpetrates on his brothers in the name of seeking war and “peace”… – as far as “human acts” go.

  9. avatar
    JW | 12 November 2011 at 12:23 am #

    For those who were wondering, when asked about 11/11/11, E.J. Gold says:
    “Generally, eleven eleven eleven signifies total annihilation of the
    entire known universe. If that happens again, ignore this message.”

    Love U and Miss U Bro…

  10. avatar
    evilren | 12 November 2011 at 2:10 am #

    America has been at war for over 200 years. A somber 11/11/11? A happy 11/11/11? Maybe a time to think where we are headed, if we even have the capacity to care.

  11. avatar
    davem | 12 November 2011 at 4:18 am #

    Not much to argue with here, but I have a bad feeling about this Killer Wan Kenobi.
    These anti-war posts seem to bring the worst out of some if I recall correctly.
    FFS don’t mention guns…. 🙂

  12. avatar
    . | 12 November 2011 at 7:00 am #

    war is one of the distractions to some of the unanswered questions
    that haunt us from century to century, those poor soldiers, veterans
    have always been pawns in the fantastic dramas of misled generals, vested
    in their careers without a live threatre to showcase their skills & best
    strategies to subduing and ending ideologies, they employed dark methods
    that painted black the rainbows of men and exposed those little devils,
    full of evil and selfishness, they wanted to chase away the earthly angels
    and made stone monuments unto themselves and inflated their little heads
    but when liberty & freedom were unfairly compromised, chosen messengers
    led other benevolent generals to curtail the carnage and brought blessings
    of hope and safety to those people caught in war’s crossfire, desperate
    to survive & live the next day or to keep their roof’s safe shelter overhead
    mortars, mustard gas, napalm, calvary, catapults, ICBMs, tridents, weapons
    of mass destruction, so many ways to kill another, so much stress & duress
    war brings into the hearts of humankind, it’s a neccessary problem, guess
    what the world would be like if evil was always allowed to roam and express
    itself without any opposition from the goodness inside us, it’s another test
    not meant to be understood while it’s so freakin’ wrong and ridiculous
    my father is alive, but he left a portion of his soul in 1960s Laos, dressed
    and still fighting a stupid and senseless war that robbed him of his better
    self that was never given the opportunity to develop and mentally progress
    war sucks, wars suck, history repeating wars sucks, enough said…

  13. avatar
    Cocoamo | 12 November 2011 at 7:23 am #

    If you all haven’t seen it, “Flyboys” is a rather good WWI movie that will put you there.

    Your Friend in Pensylvania
    (Now in Cocoa Beach)

  14. avatar
    Galamor the Wizard | 12 November 2011 at 7:25 am #

    Oxymoron of the day!
    I hate war.
    While THE REST of us try not to “listen to the lizard parts of are brain”, for the big egos of the world, it’s always that struggle they never win to succomb to the urge to “feed, fight and fuck” AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN…..

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    Rusty | 12 November 2011 at 7:55 am #

    The armistice was actually agreed upon in the early hours of the morning on the day but it was decided to wait to 11 o’clock in the morning to declare a cessation of hostilities. In the time in between 11,000 soldiers died.
    “There are only two things that are infinite-the universe and human stupidity… and I’m not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein.

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    hippy | 12 November 2011 at 11:05 am #

    The wars have been started and controlled by the World Banks. This is what they don’t teach you in history class. The “official explanations” for these wars are always the surface stuff (or outright lies). The root cause is the BANKS. War is big business. And they don’t give a shit how many people are killed to fuel their military industrial machine…THEY (Illuminati, or whatever else you may call them) thrive on chaos, fear, and economic unrest. But I believe people are waking up and realizing what’s going on. Once their “game” is found out they are going to be shitting their pants. I hope it’s not too late before the tables are turned.

  17. avatar
    eekie | 12 November 2011 at 11:23 am #

    As long as there are humans there will be wars. We’re an awful bunch, really. Just look around…and in the mirror. The capacity for war is within us all, and we are an amazingly cranky bunch.

    • avatar
      bigbopper | 12 November 2011 at 12:45 pm #

      Even in this time of elephantine vanity and greed, one never has to look far to see the campfires of gentle people.
      Garrison Keillor

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      Alyona | 13 November 2011 at 9:03 am #

      thank you, holly
      it’s been a while since someone has gotten me so introspective — the issue is by no means 1 or 2 or even 3 dimensional
      behind the iron curtain we had mandatory military training from kindergarten through college — gas masks, AKM assembly,etc.
      i abhorred it yet i turned out a sharpshooter — ironic, isn’t it?
      they pulled up the paper targets when we were done and mine had the highest score — wow girl you musta practiced eh?
      no, never even touched a gun before — the boys’ team was loading it for me and showed how to aim and shoot
      i was 13
      and i just remembered one more thing since our conversation — i keep forgetting that i am actually a military officer… not sure about the rank — when i told an arizona oncologist about it a few years ago (a doctor i used to work with) he grew very thoughtful and said you’re probably a lieutenant — it’s amusing in the weirdest possible way because i dislike all things military and i hate the war with the utmost passion
      yet
      if i was born some 40-50 years earlier i could have been that girl — as could any one of us if we just snap outta denial
      watch just 2 minutes of it, no more, from 18:12 to about 19:55 — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZag49l355I
      rita’s eyes when she hit the aircraft and then the pilot
      it’s chilling beyond any belief
      wait a good 10 min first before it loads, it’s very long — for the love of god don’t watch the whole film, not recommended
      the “before the war” parts (in color) are painfully cheesy, the rest of it is just too grim
      but in those two minutes you can see the capacity for war unmistakable in her eyes
      yes it was a revenge — her husband was killed on the 3rd day of war — yet still
      for a moment she ceased being human
      it was ww2 — there was a reason for so much hatred — and before ya’ll get indignant let me remind you —
      we humans can take threats to our personal safety with remarkable indifference and even welcome death calmly —
      but the moment our loved ones are threatened…
      picture yourself as zhenya — your whole family was executed —
      an estonian woman harbored you and you watched silently as they were being shot one by one —
      you will be hearing that machine gun sound for the rest of your life
      and wait, is this your finger on the trigger?

  18. avatar
    Once | 12 November 2011 at 2:56 pm #

    I’m of two minds on the war thing. One being the lives that are involved, and surreptiously lost. The second being the seperation of cultures and religions that makes “war” seem “necessary”.

    It’s not.

    All humans are here for a reason, and that reason has NOTHING TO DO with violence.

    Hate it. Both my “minds” do – and that means I am right.

    :))

  19. avatar
    Tim | 12 November 2011 at 4:13 pm #

    Did you get to the Nick Drake tribute at the Opry House last night, or more MWP’s bag mebbe? I’m no aficionado but pretty cool; Robyn Hitchcock etc. Only marred by the fact I had to round on the pissed noisy hippies behind me. Reminiscent, sadly, of having to tell people off in London, circa late 90s, for chattering all the way through MATS and Grind. Dolts, these people!

  20. avatar
    herman the German | 12 November 2011 at 5:45 pm #

    Thouhtfully written blog, Killer. We Germans are still branded as goose-stepping, militaristic robots by more than a few, even on these comments pages I’ve copped a bit of flak for daring to be German, although the war was so many years ago. We have to live with the terrible guilt of the atrocities committed (by all sides) in this war on a daily basis, although most of the people who were involved firsthand are long since dead and the lucky ones, buried. The unlucky ones are still being dug up every time a new shopping centre gets built, or a road resurfaced.

    If only the world’s supposed “leaders”, many of whose political careers were/are sponsered by weapons manufacturers, would learn from the brutality of the past, then we would have peace all over the world, and more time and space for love, happiness and music.

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      BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 12 November 2011 at 10:52 pm #

      Herman,
      Please don’t dare to be anything but yourself. I am sorry if you endured flak in the past for being forthright. I have endured attacks for just being human enough to voice an opinion. But known of that matters to me now. I see this entire ear spectrum from a different set of eyes. If a draft would be called upon, my 20 year- old son would be called to war. My little girl is so inquisitive, its difficult to. Explain things to here that she sees or hears this modern day, I cannot shelter her from that storm. I would chose for my son to leave this country and go to Canada, just for wanting his life to have meaning and purpose in the end. Not a statistic. I read yesterday how Iran is so much closer to building and being able to use a nuclear weapon, this being in the hands of madmen. The conventional side of conflict is just deaths dance. The next ‘true’ war will be the ultimate test of man’s technology…being able to bring ‘the end of days’ upon the entire globe. It will not be about the first shot fired as many wars in the past have that relevance, No, it will be about – rockets and their payload. If, and I pray daily for not the ‘when’ that shall occur…entire extinction of all this beautiful planets species will be the outcome. Religions, nationalisms, they will mean absolutely nothing to the survivors , only the possibility of rebirth. But sadly that probably would be unable to happen because compared to.how dreadfully we pollute this place we call home- nothing of man would be able to sustain long enough to re-exist. The animals (on land or sea) will finally be able to call what is left, their home.

      AsAlways,
      Darrin K.

  21. avatar
    hellbound heart | 12 November 2011 at 8:24 pm #

    my partner’s grandfather is a WW2 veteran and an ex-japanese pow-he’s 94 and still has nightmares….wonder what he’d say if you asked him if it was worth it….
    love always…

  22. avatar
    DavidP | 13 November 2011 at 12:37 am #

    war is totally abhorrent
    what a species we are
    no wonder the aliens are cautious
    we would be interplanetary terrorists given the chance to do so
    “The capacity for war is within us all, and we are an amazingly cranky bunch.”
    true eekie
    but don’t we have a choice?
    I know sometimes things just push our buttons
    but we can learn if we want to, we can change if we want to
    but it takes an effort to do such a work
    awareness and self-observation, death of ego
    well I try and I struggle with it, I’m no saint
    but sadly many are not interested in such a thing at all
    people are too attached to their egos and materialism
    I watched a doco tonight about the worlds biggest submarine
    quite by chance and before I saw this blog
    it has more firepower than all the bombs of previous wars put together
    may God help us all

  23. avatar
    Stewart | 13 November 2011 at 1:10 pm #

    The props change
    The issues remain
    Generation after degeneration
    Pain begets pain
    Still, we can build a better world peace by peace

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    higher | 13 November 2011 at 10:51 pm #

    poppie production has increased 4 fold since US and its allies invasion of the middle east, they want Iran back, ever since 1979, funny how Sadam in Iraq comes to power right after the Shah of Iran is removed, US/its allies arming both sides of the Iran/Iraq war, big money, big oil, the rothchilds, the morgans, the queen, sir francis drake, the pope with centuries of intl banker ties, the recent world economic downturn, the rich get richer, buying weaker rivals, mcdonalds stock is one the best perfoming investments in the past 30 years, dont believe the media.

  25. avatar
    Michel | 14 November 2011 at 6:31 am #

    War is over !
    (if you want it)

  26. avatar
    VersaVice | 14 November 2011 at 9:49 am #

    It brings out the worst and then the best in people, always in that order. If only we could find that same team work, camaraderie, and courage without war as the catalyst.

    b

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    bc | 14 November 2011 at 1:54 pm #

    11:11 all is well
    believe in change
    support wikileaks


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