posted on November 7, 2007 at 3:19 am

afternoon hangs off him like a coat
the birds out there in the wind
wind blows from the antarctic sea
rain drizzles and spurts
dreary days dragged across grey
idiots niggle niggle away at his mind
suggestions….who asked for suggestions?
change your photo
change your diet
change your belief
here he was
transmitting
trying to find out….something..
and the nitpicking nitwits poked around in puddles
sometimes it seems its the same little twit
all my life following me hounding me
chasing me through my dreams
bitching listlessly and whining thru the wire
remember when i wrote about the war
said
maybe this war wasnt a good idea
oh no
some screamed
i was naive
i didnt understand killing for peace
stick to writing popsongs they said
oh boy gee
my oh my
well um…..
and to think
then panel of experts in oxford say
exactly what i said
this war is achieving the exact opposite of what its sposed to do
but it didnt take an expert to see it
just the barest common or garden sense
like feeding sheeps guts to cows…
how clever did ya have to be to see that one fuck up?
but theyre surprised when mad cows disease comes along
no more forests should be cut down nowhere
no more whales culled for any reason
how is that so hard to see?
almost all unbiased evidence says
meat is murder
and
furthermore
meat is murdering you
just like those hindus said so long ago
and then albert einstein
a fool like me
who was a veg and believed in a god
he said
all actions have an equal and opposite reaction
ie
violence begets violence
you become what you hate
you are what you eat
eat a pig, become a pig
its that simple
until the war is won
we must hurl our constant outrage
against cruel ruinous business of meat n war
you dont
unfortunately just say it the once
the world has changed
the world will continue to change
change means overturning old brutal ways
people dont wanna give up their meat
and some of em scream and get real mad
but they didnt wanna give up their crucifixions
or their human sacrifice
or their holocausts
or their slaves
or their gladiators fighting it out
or any of the other rotten stuff from the past
change will come
the planet cannot much longer bear the cost of it
the sheer immensity of the problem
is bringing us undone
what am i trying to say?
do what you can
thats all
and become yourself
whatever that means

65 Responses to “lowboy”

  1. avatar
    Richard | 7 November 2007 at 4:24 am #

    At risk of making a suggestion…

    Please take some comfort from the fact that this reader, old dog that he is, is genuinely (and positively) provoked by many of the things you say.

  2. avatar
    craig1.618 | 7 November 2007 at 5:15 am #

    i feel that i am becoming
    with each passing day
    sometimes i slip backwards
    and rant and rave
    riding a negative vibe
    projecting some stupid little insecurity of mine
    but other days i’m golden
    in tune with source and flowing along

    and then……
    sometimes i wonder
    are there 2 camps?
    2 sets of people
    one group descended of cain
    one of abel (sic)
    destined to always be stuck
    in some form of duality?
    never seeing eye 2 eye

    and then i think what the fuck does any of my rambling have to do with any sort of relevant comment on the TTB

  3. avatar
    the militant vixen | 7 November 2007 at 5:36 am #

    hey SK

    ditto. meat is murder. you are what you eat. karma will come and bite you on the ass.

    your favourite vegans-for-life have new dreamy sounds up at

    myspace.com/themilitantvixen

    Hope you like!

  4. avatar
    eek | 7 November 2007 at 6:24 am #

    The best thing for this earth is for humans to die out. And the sooner the better.

    I’m doing my part.

  5. avatar
    JONNY NOT YET SO HOLLYWOODISH | 7 November 2007 at 6:37 am #

    eye agree with eek, the sooner humans are wiped out the sooner gods can walk terra once again like never before…
    Jonny Moondog

  6. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 6:49 am #

    My body and mind feel SO much better since I’ve stopped eating meat, thanks sk.
    Love Princey

  7. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 7:10 am #

    we’ve all got to do what we can..yes,violence begets violence…so in accepting murder of living beings{just for good measure,i usually ask anyone who questions my veg-ness if i could eat one of their children,or mother/father}, violence,we prove that apathy begets apathy.so i can tell you …i am a nut n spinach rissole,not a chicken……inspiring,as always Mr. Kilbey…it is raining up here as well..at last,and its very cool as well..but the feel that lingers when the rain stops,is electric,and warm,calm,and so extraordinarily special.things are going to be ok..shoes were invented many hundreds of years before the rest of the world decided that they were a necessity,some still dont wear em..there is always movement.the only thing that is constant …is change,yes?…things can only get better{ask brien c…thats a howie song}….have a peaceful night,and to quote a brilliant star of a poet.”dream of now.now and forever good”…who was that maSKed man!?keep em coming superman!…when is this Pain Killer cd coming to our ears??my cd collection is just asking for a tuther!….love,as always,gen xxxxxx

  8. avatar
    Ethereal Butterfly | 7 November 2007 at 7:35 am #

    My 16 yr old ( big fan of The Church) did an oral presentation on your book ‘Fruit Machine’ for his yr 11 Literature class today – apparently it was well received. Quite a thorough trip down rock history it is too!
    I agree with Richard – today’s blog was an abundance of food for thought…….. bless you Killer…

  9. avatar
    fantasticandy | 7 November 2007 at 7:45 am #

    now that was very well balanced and sensible!
    it just sounded like common sense…
    not preachy at all.
    the way forward perhaps?
    top man killer…top.
    luv,
    andy L.

  10. avatar
    mb | 7 November 2007 at 9:03 am #

    Steve,

    Don’t get me wrong…..I love the Church, and consider you up there with the rest of the ‘rock gods’……however please, please please don’t preach.

    I understand what you are saying, however I don’t agree with it. I do eat meat, fish, eggs, milk, cheese, and I like it a lot.

    Don’t get me wrong….I do beleieve that people eat too much meat. I personally eat meat once a week (like a Sunday roast type of thing), and enjoy it as much as I can. I try to stick to a mediterranean diet.

    As for the person above who say’s that the human race should be wiped out the face of the earth……do these sort of views get you layed much ? Actions speak louder than words buddy…..start by putting a gun to your head first.

    thanks.

  11. avatar
    steve kilbey | 7 November 2007 at 9:21 am #

    sunday roast…how lovely
    and fuck the environment!

  12. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 9:31 am #

    peaceful meaty @8:03pm…you look very at peace,and attractive with that apple in your mouth.is the fruit you are eating,a symbol of your placid,non violent nature…the apple does suit you,i must say,very complimentary..so would you prefer rosemary,garlic,or thyme…i hope you are fond of fires,and cutlery….and i don’t think you’ll really need to bring your sunscreen…we’ve got the cooking oil already..i would prefer it if you had been locked in an artificially lit shed for most of your life,and fed synthesized food substitutes {probably made of your relative’s flesh.}.that would make you more appetising,and expensive at the market…i shot your mother,because she seemed to think that your life was worth more than the 2 dollars a kilo that i’ll get from the butcher…

  13. avatar
    Melissa | 7 November 2007 at 9:34 am #

    ‘eh, I was one of those little kids who used to cry when they saw one of those livestock trucks driving by (nothing much has changed!) I guess a vegetarian diet has always been second nature to me .. never been a fan of the taste of meat in any case.

    Just my opinion, but I really don’t think that SK is preaching here .. I think he’s just voicing his heart and mind and what’s important to him.

    But anyhoo..

  14. avatar
    mb | 7 November 2007 at 9:36 am #

    Yeah…..wouldn’t mind having you over sometime….don’t worry the appropriate menu will be provided….roasted eggplant etc….and some damn good wine too. Give us a buzz next time you are in Athens or Crete (Greece)…..

    Don’t fly from one extreme to the other……..please think sensibly.

    I didn’t say anything about wrecking the environment, and I personally try to do everything possible to make my stay on earth here less ‘stressful’ for my ‘second mother earth’.

    However I think it is quite arrogant to think that, in the whole scheme of things, we can ‘save the planet’. We are but a grain of sand on the beach that is this planet’s lifespan. If she really has a problem with us, she will very quickly and violently shake us off her back like fleas on dog. People here should try and save themselves first, and I don’t mean religiously.

    I however will not stand by and listen to the tripe of certain people that write here….who have such extreme views such as wiping the human race off the planet. You can’t see the brutality of such views ? You can’t understand that this sort of intellectual claptrap is dangerous in so many ways ? You can’t see that most of what some people believe is derived from how much ‘pussy’ it gets them…in other words peer pressure. ?

    anyway…..thanks for the reply.

  15. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 9:45 am #

    but what if your pussy’s on a vegan diet Mr.Meateater?oh,sorry,i thought you were showing general concern for an animal….i was so wrong,….it was your willy that you were considering!of course..i should have suspected that would have been the case…i am sure that the rotting flesh in your gut is most attractive to women…blechhhh!

  16. avatar
    mb | 7 November 2007 at 9:45 am #

    anonymous….

    I prefer garlic to be honest….

    Being a ‘part time’ farmer, I raise my own on the acres of land that my grandfather left me. Vegetables and fruit too. Olive oil comes from trees that have been in my family for generations as well.

    And I do enter the ‘slaughter house’ when the time of the year comes. I suppose I have become partially decesitized to the process.

    I rarely buy food from a supermarket. And fast food is a big NO NO.

    And I waste virtually NOTHING of what I produce.

    thanks for the laugh though.

  17. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 9:56 am #

    yes, things can be done at an individual level, but one of the real problems is affecting change at a corporate and political level as well…can’t see many fat cat industrialists becoming environmentally or ethically friendly, and when you have politicians refusing to agree with the basic premises of the kyoto summit because of economic rationalism, well…one can’t help but feel sometimes that they are pushing shit uphill, as it were…
    love always
    -The Hellbound Heart

  18. avatar
    veleska1970 | 7 November 2007 at 11:01 am #

    this was not at all “preachy”. it’s more of a warning. and you’re certainly not the first one to give this warning, steve. there’s been others before you.

    i would hope the human race would heed it, but i don’t see that happening anytime soon. if ever.

  19. avatar
    woodsprite | 7 November 2007 at 11:48 am #

    Like a winged carrot to a flame (flap flap)

    For what it’s worth. I believe humans *are* evolving very slowly towards veg-ism and environmental awareness, but it won’t be fully realized in any of our lifetimes. So maybe we should try a little patience with each other? I also think that as animals ourselves we learn more by example than we do by lecturing. Anyone can talk. The proof is in what people do.

  20. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 12:51 pm #

    dear 8:45 PM and others who keep using the same phrase – meat does not ‘rot in your guts’. human beings have evolved to eat both meat and plant – our gut is physiologically set up to do this. any meat you eat does not rot -it gets digested down to useful components and then absorbed into the body. this is fact and no amount of hysterics will change that. i actually have a lot of sympathy with what is said here regarding vegetariansim – but i do have a big problem with people ‘shouting down’ other points of view with ‘slogans’ that mean nothing. steve – i do realise i can ‘fuck off’ and stop reading your blog if i don’t agree with you so no need to tell me (again). there seems to be a lot of hate and nazi like intolerance in the vegetarian community if the comments here are an indicator.

  21. avatar
    MJ FRIM | 7 November 2007 at 1:05 pm #

    PEOPLE WILL EAT MEAT AND WARS WILL GO ON UNTIL THE END OF TIME. NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE THAT. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WOULD RATHER THINK THAT WARS WILL END AND DISCONTINUE. AS FAR AS FOOD GOES YEAH I TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM MEAT BUT WHEN YOUR ARE ON THE RUN YOUR NOT MAKING A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY OR TIME AND YOU ARE EATING WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE., YOU WILL EAT WHAT IS THERE. NO EXCUSE RIGHT AND THE VIOLENCE WILL END. I LIVE IN MICHIGAN SO GUN HUNTING FOR DEER STARTS THE 14TH. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I USED TO DO BECAUSE THAT JUST WHAT WE DID. AFTER SOME CONSIDERATION AND AN ANIMAL LOVING GIRL FRIEND I PUT A STOP TO THAT BUT DEER HUNTING WILL NEVER END. JUST GET OUR OWN TED NUGENTS VIEWS ON THIS AND OTHER THINGS. HERE IS A SELF PROCLAIMED SMART INDIVIDUAL GOING OFF ALL THE TIME ON HOW MACHO HE IS. COME TO FIND OUT HE DID NOT SHOWER BRUSH HIS TEETH AND SHIT IN HIS OWN PANTS AND LEFT IT FOR WEEKS BACK IN THE DAY SO THAT HE COULD AVOID THE DRAFT. HERE IN MICHIGAN FOR SOME REASON HE IS CONSIDERED A TRUE ALL AMERICAN. WITH PEOPLE LIKE THIS AROUND THINGS WILL NOT CHANGE. SAD BUT TRUE. MJ FRIM

  22. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 1:18 pm #

    its’s quite noble to be so optimistic / humans can’t last. please get used to the idea

  23. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 1:20 pm #

    IT’S HISSSSSSS BLOGGGGG! HE CAN PREACH WHATEVER HE WANTS!

    Why don’t some of you get that?

  24. avatar
    MJ FRIM | 7 November 2007 at 1:27 pm #

    JUST STATING THE REALITY.

  25. avatar
    Matt Davyddson | 7 November 2007 at 1:35 pm #

    Shoyoyu laced tempeh burgers and peanut sauce for me!

  26. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 1:38 pm #

    Typical radicals. Nothing original to say.

  27. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 1:40 pm #

    that is because there is nothing new under the sun.

  28. avatar
    CSTCoach | 7 November 2007 at 2:14 pm #

    rant away, killa! this vapid society needs a conscience. if you’re pissing people off, its a pretty good sign you’re pressing the right buttons.

    on the subject of yesstaday – i didn’t realize you’d worked for the gov’t (continuity dept?) for so many years. i did several years worth of contracts with many different depts, until i became unemployable. we’ll have to sit down and swap stories sometime LOL

    ryan

  29. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 2:26 pm #

    Oh Master, you know who I am. I will desist from now on, I just coulnt’t help myself.. again, and I know I am an ass. But please don’t blow the whistle. 🙂

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 2:30 pm #

    if some of you only knew how much eating meat contributes to global warming and cancer, and a plethora of other maladies, you would see where Steve was coming from.

  31. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 2:58 pm #

    1:30AM – in what ways does it contribute to global warming more than say buying clothes (i assume you dress) – (meat and clothes both have to be transported to their destination – i assume thats what you mean – or is it the methane from all the cows – well to solve that problem would involve the slaughter of billions of animals – is that what you want?) or driving a car (particularly the older, less efficient car – like a clapped out old falcon maybe). as for cancer – according to ‘top boffins’ everything gives you cancer…probably including too much cabbage.

    like paul weller said – when he was 18 everything was absolutely blackj and white to him, right or wrong. as you grow up you see the shades of grey that are part of life. some of you people could do with growing up – a bit of realpolitik

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 2:59 pm #

    I’m an animal lover myself. I support WSPA and Greenpeace. Absolutely detest animal cruelty. But I’m not sure whether becoming a vegetarian is the noble thing to do. I’ve thought about it, but animals eat animals, too (yes, I know we’re supposed to be “smarter”). Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to improve the conditions under which farm animals live? Isn’t that the issue here – the cause that we should all support?

    Thomas Thomsen, Denmark.

  33. avatar
    salim nourallah | 7 November 2007 at 3:10 pm #

    amen sk – lately i haven’t had the time i’d like to drop in on your blog but your words today are seriously wise and profound.

  34. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 7 November 2007 at 3:42 pm #

    Sk’s animal loving vegetarianism is nothing new. Pythagoros, Empedocles, Da Vinci, Tolstoy, Albert Schweitzer, John Wesley, William Booth (founder of the salvation army), Ellen G. White (founder of the Seventh Day Adventists,) Gandhi, Hindus, Jains and Buddhists did and do concur. SK is vital because Australia needs more leadership on this issue.

    Last night I listened to a very pleasant CD by Leigh-Chantelle. She embraces cruelty-free living and admires SK and The Church.

  35. avatar
    tony benn | 7 November 2007 at 5:03 pm #

    2nd Crusade, Horns of Hattan, both sides attack yelling “God is with us” and the armourers were selling to both sides…

  36. avatar
    whoops! | 7 November 2007 at 5:06 pm #

    Here’s one:
    according to the Bible, Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel were the only humans on earth. When cain’s about to be exiled from Eden for Abel’s murder he pleads with God not to expel him because once he’s out of Eden “the other people” will kill him.
    Other people? But…hmmmmm…
    How the Bible’s various editors have missed that one over the millennia I dunno!

  37. avatar
    davem | 7 November 2007 at 6:50 pm #

    I don’t miss meat at all. Thank-you Steve.
    x

  38. avatar
    JONNY NOT YET SO HOLLYWOODISH | 7 November 2007 at 8:27 pm #

    Hey mb,
    don’t you have your own bloggy, only one comment per person please, and wiping out the human race is inevitable, I can’t wait!!!
    It makes me so happy to know that it is coming December 21st, 2012 at exactly 11:11pm, hooray for the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine, haha…
    Master Blaster

    ps. sorry esskay but I could not refrain myself from mb’s mouth…
    Junior Painkiller

    fyi – you might have to shut down your comments once again…
    Hollywood

  39. avatar
    Symon | 7 November 2007 at 8:52 pm #

    Steve,

    You’re making me think.

    Symon

  40. avatar
    marty willson-piper | 7 November 2007 at 9:38 pm #

    people say I am a dick , I wonder what I ate? or why nobody likes me

  41. avatar
    steve kilbey | 7 November 2007 at 9:39 pm #

    one more time>
    meat is ruining the planet because
    *9 pounds of corn to produce one pound of beef
    eg 9 times less efficient
    * grazing produces dustbowls
    *forests get destroyed for grazing land
    *methane and the cow urine which is forming in huge underground “seas” underground
    *refrigeration and transport: unbelievable drain on resources. you see meat, unlike veg fruit or grains
    is DEAD. its rotting from the moment the unfortunate corpse is dismembered. it starts to fall apart. it needs continual refrigeration
    * as countries take up meat eating (eg japan)
    their rates of cancer heartattack and obesity grow
    * why wouldnt meat rot in your stomach?
    unlike a cat or dog with a short powerful digestive system
    humans have long intestines like a cow
    but very weak digestive juices
    therefore as the meat in your guts IS NOT broken down for days
    as it travels round it rots
    your stomach is no freezer
    witness meat at room temp after 3 days
    it rots
    it rots in your guts too
    coming into contact with the intestines
    rotting against them
    and you know what happens when rotting organic matter comes in contact with non rotting organic matter
    it makes it rot
    thus accounting for the statistics that meat eaters
    are twice as likely to suffer all the various cancers
    of stomach, colon etc.
    * meat eaters are more obese than vegs putting more strain on medical systems
    * the misery unleashed by billions of animals dying in concentration camp conditions hangs in the air of this planet causing much grief and sorrow
    * inhumanity to animals eg people who work in meat industry. it must affect them. the blood the guts the shit the screaming the bellowing, covered in gore after ripping out claws teeth tails ears horns balls of living creatures. it must flow on into society
    * the bad karma. unfortunately meat eaters can not feel these kind of intangibles but then wonder why this world is so full of pain
    *the exploded livers of ducks kept for pate
    * the horrific short life of a veal calf
    * the dairy industry: drinking the milk of miserable
    hormone pumped creatures
    * the egg industry . have you seen how these chickens live?
    and you eat their flesh and eat their eggs
    these desperate de beaked de clawed wretched things
    you eat that, you take it on

    i abhor meat
    it is vile decaying filthy morbid stuff
    i feel so very sorry for anyone who eats it
    i will continue to throw my efforts behind stopping it
    it will not come in our lifetimes
    but it will come
    victory to decency
    victory to humanities triumph over darkness and slaughter
    the liberation of animals from lives of abject fucking horror
    the cleansing of earth of its death industries
    peace and love
    live and let live
    let all things have a chance
    dont let your guts be a graveyard for the animals
    vegans are sexier
    vegans are slimmer
    vegans have less degenerative disease
    vegans demand less of our resources
    vegans love animals
    vegans love life
    meat = fear, pain, blood, murder, decaying cadavers
    meat = fat sick miserable (go and check out the crowd in yer local kfc or mcdonalds)
    meat equals wilful ignorance
    meat finally = death
    carnivores : a dying breed
    yes i am self righteous
    this is a righteous cause
    to stop the continual debasement and degradation
    of life
    i will fight on
    i will never be dissuaded
    i will use whatever i have
    TO MAKE THE ATROCITY END!

  42. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 9:44 pm #

    I just had a ham sammich

  43. avatar
    the bondi strangler | 7 November 2007 at 9:52 pm #

    I too am a vegetarian like my hero , der fuhrer!

  44. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 9:56 pm #

    But mj frim, you stopped KILLING INNOCENT DEER thanks to just ONE compassionate person telling you how wrong it was, doesn’t that tell you something????
    -Amanda

  45. avatar
    Babe | 7 November 2007 at 9:57 pm #

    Thomas, you have “selective” compassion. You can’t say you are an animal lover if you eat them. That doesn’t make sense.You love your family-would you eat them too?

  46. avatar
    the dean | 7 November 2007 at 10:02 pm #

    1. Our small and large intestines, like those of other primates, are four times longer than those of carnivores. Because of the long intestines, meat passes very slowly through the human digestive system; it takes about 4 days during which the disease-causing products of decaying meat are in constant contact with the digestive organs (vegetarian food takes only about 1 1/2 days).

    2. Our hands are similar to those of apes; they are meant for picking food such as vegetables, fruits, leaves, flowers, seeds, etc., and not for tearing flesh.

    3. Our lower jaw, or mandible, can move both up and down and side to side, like the primates’; carnivores’ jaws move only up and down.

    4. Our saliva is alkaline like that of the higher species of apes; it contains ptyalin to digest carbohydrates. Carnivores’ saliva is acidic.

    5. Unlike carnivores, we do not have fangs for biting into flesh. Our so-called canine teeth are not truly canine like the dog’s. We are not constituted to prey upon animals, rip apart their bodies, or bite into their flesh.

    6. Although our gastric secretions are acidic like that of carnivores, their stomachs have four times as much acid; this strong acidic region is necessary to digest their high-protein flesh diet.

    7. Carnivores have proportionally larger kidneys and livers than we have; they need these larger organs in order to handle the excessive nitrogenous waste of a flesh diet.

    8. The carnivores’ livers secrete a far greater amount of bile into the gut to deal with their high-fat meat diet.

  47. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 November 2007 at 10:15 pm #

    Sk, I’ve made the best change of my life in that I’ve stopped eating dead animals, I feel sick at the thought that I’ve eaten meat for so long (I was never a big meat eater, but it still had entered my gut). It’s only been a short time, but I honestly feel so good, physically and mentally that I’m no longer contributing to that disgusting and cruel industry. It’s never too late to make the change. And I’ll always thank you sk, because it’s you who got me to drag my ass to wvd and realise the horror.
    Love Amanda

  48. avatar
    John | 7 November 2007 at 10:22 pm #

    For the record;

    I really hate that song, “Meat Is Murder” by the Smiths.

    Great band and everything, pretty good album, but that song seriously blows.

    John Garratt

  49. avatar
    nickfiction | 7 November 2007 at 11:03 pm #

    any word on those energy drinks that will make us so beautiful?

  50. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 November 2007 at 12:30 am #

    GOIN VEGAN IS THE BEST THING THAT’S EVER HAPPENED TO ME!!!!!
    FUCK WHY DIDN’T ANYONE TELL ME SOONER THAT YOU DON’T NEED IT TO LIVE?????
    BEEN A CARNIVORE
    BEEN A VEGATARIAN
    CAN’T SAY BEING EITHER MADE ME FEEL AS GOOD AS THIS!!! I’D NEVER EVER GO BACK!!!
    NOT IF IT MAKES ME FEEL THIS FUCKIN GREAT!!!!!!!!
    ALL YOU MEAT AND MILK SUCKERS OUT THERE…. YOU’RE SERIOUSLY DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE MISSING!!!!!!

    THEY SAY VEGANS LAST LONGER…….. FUCK YEAH!!!! A VEGAN MAN IS GOD IN BED!!!!!!

    VEGANISM = PEACE
    VEGANISM = FREEDOM
    VEGANISM = LOVE
    VEGANISM = LIFE
    VEGANISM = HAPPINESS

  51. avatar
    JJ | 8 November 2007 at 12:39 am #

    Thought-provoking blog, Druide, as always.

    Solitary choir member here, so preaching to it is welcomed.

    How long before the race evolves to a higher level of humanity? Long enough to know I don’t know anymore. Small incremental steps, hopefully more forward than back.

  52. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 November 2007 at 12:46 am #

    god steve, i really wish that you could start another blog devoted to veganism entirely. I would love to have a guru posting some recipes no matter how simple they are. lease give us some advice beyond just go vegan. I hate relying on google or some obscure books to guide me into the unknown.

  53. avatar
    knot | 8 November 2007 at 12:53 am #

    isn’t saying “eat a pig become a pig” a negative judgment upon the porcine?
    as if to assume we are indeed so superior as humans that to become a pig is lowly?

  54. avatar
    knot | 8 November 2007 at 1:00 am #

    why knot?
    Joseph Campbell argues that there has been an evolution in sacred entities–moon, serpent, pig, bull, and finally horse. (Occidental Mythology. Viking, 1964. 154; Primitive Mythology. Viking, 1959. 197) Campbell is overly fond of asserting patterns, and this one may be overstated, but this one receives support from the fact that in much of Oceana, where the latter two animals do not exist, the pig retains its ancient importance.
    That the identity of the sacred being changes is not merely an indication of the fickleness of human taste, for there is a corresponding change in the nature of the dominant theme of religion. “The boar is the beast of death,” Robert Graves says (White Goddess. The Noonday Press, 1969. 210), and much of the sacred and symbolic import of boars and pigs in general is in fact connected with death. Death is, of course, a central concern of most religions, but in those which emphasize the danger to the soul of devouring demons, and in those in which human sacrifice is an important element, contemplation of death takes on a special vividness and immediacy. The pig is, among other things, a devourer; it is a menace to crops and to people, it is voracious and it is omnivorous.

    Even the strong-stomached goat will not eat meat, its young, or manure. Stories of domestic pigs killing and eating children, women in childbirth, even grown men are abundant, and some are undoubtedly true. Thus for dangerousness the pig has no rival among domestic animals, except the bull, but he at least will not eat you.

    According to Sir James Frazer those who attended a Halloween bonfire would, as soon as it went completely out, run off shouting, “The cropped sow seize the hindermost,” and in his own time allusions to the “cutty black sow” were made to frighten children (Frazer. The Golden Bough. Macmillan, 1951. 738).

    Less elegantly, in rural America, especially at night, it is a common reply to the question of where so-and-so went, “He went out to shit and the hogs ate him,” an expression doubly interesting not only because it connects pigs with death by devouring, but also because excrement itself is so often associated with the dark and demonic side of existence.
    Polynesian masks of the devouring demon are almost inevitably armed with boar’s tusks, an odd fact considering that the demon is female. Ancient representations of Medusa, however, often show her with boar’s tusks as well as with serpent locks. In the East, too, statues, pictures, and masks of demons have tusks. Thus the pig-devourer is also a creature of the underworld. What the earth produces it takes back into itself, and the sow, the most prolific of barnyard mammals, is also omnivorous and voracious to the point of eating her own young.
    As both producer and devourer, the pig effectively represents the primitive view of divinity as an earth goddess beyond good and evil. However, by the dawn of history the sky fathers, Zeus, Yaweh, Indra and their counterparts have taken over and the evolution toward moral religion has begun. The creatures of the underworld, already viewed with fear, become increasingly sinister and abhorrent. Even in Polynesia, where so much that was primitive remained until modern times, the masculine asserted itself sufficiently to find rites for eluding the devouring demons.

    The fact that pig’s blood was in ancient times a powerful purifying agent suggests on the one hand the sacredness of the pig, and on the other its affinity with the demonic. Thus when Jesus casts the demons out of the man he sends them into a herd of swine, and action appropriate both because pigs are sacred animals, and thus able to absorb and carry off evil, and because as underworld creatures themselves, they have an affinity with the demonic that makes them receptive to it.

    In the Welsh Mabinogion (Jones. Dutton, 1974. 56), the introduction of pigs to the British Isles is discussed:

    “I have heard tell that there have come to the South such creatures as never
    came to this island.” “What is their name?” said he. “Hobeu, lord.” “What
    kind of animals are those?” “Small animals, their flesh better than the flesh of
    oxen” . . . “To whom do they belong?” “To Pryderi son of Pwyll, to whom they
    were sent from Annwyn by Arawn king of Annwyn.”

    What the writer does not make clear-perhaps he does not realize it–is that Annwyn is the Celtic underworld, the land of the dead, and Arawn its king.

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    Zorro | 8 November 2007 at 1:01 am #

    I very rarely get angry, but you meat eating morons going on about having vegetarians shoving their opinions down your throats really feckin’ tick me off.

    Do you know what we have to put up with? The smell of meat cooking all over the place? Endless advertisements on billboards for god-damn hamburgers etc? People shoving meat in their mouths all around you at a restaurant or whatever…meat eaters dominate we vegans/vegetarians…we have to put up with all your shit all the time.

    Go and choke on a f*cking sausage and don’t berate vegans/veges for their stance…we put up with a lot.

    And…I know nothing is ever black and white…but we are RIGHT. Eating meat is WRONG.

    Sorry…I’m a bit stressed out.

  56. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 November 2007 at 1:02 am #

    I think anonymous at 11:46 is onto something.

  57. avatar
    Olde Amps | 8 November 2007 at 1:04 am #

    Beautiful blog today Mr K.

    The meat eaters posting here would be wise to pay attention.

    Meat eating IS destroying the world.

    And meat eaters…you stink. Literally.

  58. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 November 2007 at 1:05 am #

    To finish that thought, I’ve found most of my personal searching and attempts at specific advice-gathering very disappointing.

  59. avatar
    Jenn | 8 November 2007 at 1:37 am #

    ‘Soylent Green’, where humans get their ultimate karma, eating themselves.
    what a movie!

  60. avatar
    AelSunriseBird | 8 November 2007 at 1:38 am #

    If each letter of each word is a single blessing, my friend you have just achieved a life times.

  61. avatar
    timf | 8 November 2007 at 2:04 am #

    perfectly put.

    amazing how a little common sense can amount to
    an evolution of the human species but that’s what we need to do to survive. its simple yet complex.

    as the planets resources dwindle compared to the massive population growth
    we can not sustain our present lifestyles. I get so frustrated that things are not changing fast enough but government won’t change until people change until the people demand it with their wallets and their votes So the change HAS to come one person at a time..you have to change yourself before you can ask others to. become yourself, become your dharma if you like. thank you…thank you…thank you for your advice…and your encouragement it is meaningfull.

    I think most vegans would agree that its a question of morality but telling a carnivor that its morally irreprehensible aint gonna change anything. The fact that the survival of the human species may depend upon the down fall of the meat industry may be a more persuasive way to go about it.
    Yes in 2007 we are still a species of carnivors. Its sick, its sad, it HAS to change while we
    still have some time on this old spinnin marble.

    As early children we learn that just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should. And as adults we should know better.

    Peace..

  62. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 8 November 2007 at 2:30 am #

    This blog’s been euphoria and utopia for me. I’m the self-rightous, heavy on the Jim Beam and Scotch fat vegetarian. Just imagine India has over 200 million vegetarians. The fucked-up politicians should eschew human abusing and animal abusing Despotic China and embrace India the spiritual homeland of Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism and vegetarianism. Rock on Steve Kilbey, Chrissie Hynde, Jeff Beck, Tom Scholz and Steve Vai (For The Love Of God)!!! Ted Nugent=Animal Killer!

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    anonymous at 2:45 | 8 November 2007 at 3:45 am #

    It’s funny that in practice all the vegetables I know are overweight, some by a bit and many by a mile, but all noticeably overweight. I pondered this for quite a while until I ate out a few times with close vegetable friends. Bang, it hit me. Vegetables rarely eat vegetables. But they consume quite a bit of carbs, muchbreads and pasta, cookies, etc. All animal friendly except to the health of the most important animal on thier list.

    Even Kilbo was a pudger most during his post-1988 career. what cleared that was not vegetables either buit exercise.

    Vegetarianism is like Religion. There is no shortage of propaganda to gain converts. Meat is murder. War = carnivore. Hardly. Go beat your meat, meathead. Or would you prefer being addressed as vegetable?

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    Anonymous at 2:50 | 8 November 2007 at 3:50 am #

    This is the kicker, India is one of the worst offenders of the so-called “manmade” global warming. (It’s the Sun, stupids).

    For all of their non-meat eating activities, they are immune from Kyoto and any impending carbon tax, just like China. Face it fucktards, the global elite will tell you anything to tax you more. It’s all your fault after all for eating meat, flatulating and driving that car to buy more. The sickest joke is the man who loving digs his own grave. Hop in, the earth is your final womb. Globemade manivore.

  65. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 November 2007 at 2:07 am #

    sk, you are my hero………..and for good reason…
    richard


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