posted on September 4, 2012 at 3:06 pm

i am reading the book of mark

it is a separately issued as a small booklet

with an excellent intro by nick cave (no less…who gives it two thumbs up!)

so here we are

one of the five books that really are of interest to me from the bible

the others being matthew luke john and revelations

i do not care for st paul

he is a authoritarian type laying down his rules

the very opposite of our man

now this reading of mark that i will write about begs many questions

i will say that most christians ruin it for christ!

in a typically human fashion we have taken this mans words and

whilst claiming to follow him

we have done the very opposite

so many hindus have said

if you are christians why dont you follow his teachings??!!

and it is a question that needs answering

why the very most “christian'” of people nowadays would dismay christ no end

i mean do you think if christ were to meet say W

he would say good on you mate , youve really understood my message…!

if you think the answer is yes then you should stop reading this now !

cos that aint the message i’m picking up from this guy i’m reading about….

i’m not reading about some timid law abiding traditional picket fence type here

i’m reading a truly wild revolutionary troubled anguished cat

who is basically the ultimate socialist you can imagine

because he already digs that material possessions are traps

and you need to free yourself of lust for stuff

buddha knows that

krsna knows that

sjk knows that

you cant straddle both worlds easily baby

you gotta let it all go!

another thing people say is do you believe in jesus?

and according to whatever i say bombard ya with the pros n cons

history says this

some historian says that…

i dont fucking care!

i dont care if he existed or not…can you believe that?

i cant even begin to answer the question do you believe in jesus?


do i believe in all the accretions and spin doctoring of the church . nope!

i reckon the boy buggering priests have just about put me off …howabout you?

the great wealth and arrogance of the popes

the evil they have done

the witch hunts and suppression of knowledge

the persecutions and maimings …all in jesus name!

for christs sake

yet still the same types are using christs name to justify all the things he reviled

i reckon christ (if he existed) would hate napalm, bullets, sanctions, a-bombs, mines, tanks etc

i reckon he would love charity and help for the aged and poor

i reckon he would advocate tolerance and understanding

yet the geezers masquerading as christians are dealing you out the very opposite!

ha ha that my friends is a great wonder right there…..

there is however from i what ive read so far

the possibility that i am not understanding the bits

that advocate tycoons and wars being good things

perhaps it got lost in my translation

so whether i believe in  jesus  or not….

the question is not framed properly

one must read this book mark with an open mind and heart

can you forget for a moment the idea of some faux historical accuracy

and dig this cat

this brilliant cat at conflict with everyone

with the disciples

with the big knobs in the temple

with the average joe

with the local kings n queens

i tell you this

( i ve read the bible before, i am re reading it now)

jesus and krsna have many things in common

an evil king who murdered infants to avoid a prophecy

but who was not successful in stopping these gods from materialising

and their ability to both confound and fulfil the religious laws of the time

both of them broke the rules in almost everything they did

this is the mark of a true hero a true genius of love

and they both died unfitting deaths for such great and beautiful men

do i believe they actually existed like you and i exist?

like i exist here in my blog?

or like i exist here in bob luries book?

or as i exist in martys amazing recollections in the reissues ?

or as i exist in my songs ?

does it matter?

when i am dead will my life matter as long as my songs make people happy?

so yeah the book of mark


hes healing people

hes pulling a big crowd everywhere

hes starting to piss people off too

people dont like this kinda healing, give all yer money away stuff!

i tell ya i dont envy jesus his gig!

his own disciples can be the most flaky doubtful crowd ever

after all he does theyre still not sure

they still misinterpret his wishes

no one seems to understand what hes trying to do

what the fuck is he trying to do?

well hes not really sure is he

i mean remember he is a human being

with every temptation and every failing to overcome

he loves people so much he cant help healing em!

he starts healing em and how can he stop?

with his compassion he has fallen into a trap

are they listening or do they want healing n miracles?

its all outta control from virtually the word go

devils unmask him in the street

he performs more exorcisms than youve had hot dinners in the first five minutes

i mean mark sets christ down and hes immediately running

no away in the manger stuff no childhood

did christ go to india?

i’d say he deffo went somewhere n studied something

cos when he suddenly appears getting baptised johnny the baptist can dig it!

i am not fit to do up the catches on your sandals! says j the b

and dig this , this beautiful phrase that christ uses in raising a deathly girl

talitha cumi 

he says in aramaic i guess

man that phrase i never noticed it before

that phrase seeing it written down there

as jesus the most beautiful cat ever

with his heart full of soul

the man of sorrows

and he says in this most beautiful language this magical spell

talitha cumi

maiden rise! it is in english (but thats fucking hopeless!)

oh god how christ loved people

how he loved it when they showed faith and courage

how dismayed at the hard heartedness of the local rightwing mofos

ruining it then as usual

as it is now

same as it ever was!

the wicked kings

the bloated emperors

the cruel ignorant soldiers

the scheming priests

the clueless mob who would eventually turn on him

man his world is full of snakes

and so few ladders

always he is seeking solitude and prayer

he is worn out by all this

doesnt seem like he asked for it but what is he to do…?

he has to glorify god….

now here is a tricky thing

as we realise jesus is a victim of his zeitgeist like all men

he spoke about his father but his father is all our fathers too

but i find it very hard to reconcile JC and crankypants Jehovah

who has every nasty quality in spades that you dont want in yer deity

i mean the israelites are his chosen people ok

but where the fuck does that leave me?

yeah anyway i dont approve of all that rubbish in the old testa

that aint no good book….its a bloody and boring mythology of a desert tribe

that freely borrows from all the myths that came before

and quite nasty in a lot of places!

however with mark

there is something brand new afoot

a revolution

its not the miracles and healing

even without that

its something else

an indiscernable wonder that somehow exists between the words

i will bring you more as i read more

i am a pantheist

i dig all gods because they are part of the one true immanent god

a god so fucking transcendent he makes jehovah look like vanilla ice

this particular transcendent god speaks through jesus to me

but he speaks through krsna to me

and the beatles too

i believe this more than i believe anything else

god is great beyond greatness

and we are tiny parts of this

everything is

so open your heart

and be a part

not apart




65 Responses to “mark”

  1. avatar
    DavidP | 4 September 2012 at 5:27 pm #

    I like your sermon padre kilbo
    whilst things might have literally happened I think the point of it all is to be taken symbolically
    in Christ’s own words he said he didn’t come into the world to bring peace but a sword
    a sword is for killing things…
    what did he wish to kill?
    like Kali (our inner divine mother aspect) has the power to decapitate egos
    so too the Christic force, once we incarnate it, to free us from our “sins”
    Jesus represents a universal force we can all merge with and through that return to the Father, the transcendent god of your understanding

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    Kohl Ette | 4 September 2012 at 5:55 pm #

    A beautiful mass I mean mess

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    eekie | 4 September 2012 at 6:08 pm #

    Ganesha is coming along nicely!

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    Stewart | 4 September 2012 at 6:37 pm #

    “its something else…
    god is great beyond greatness
    and we are tiny part of this
    everything is”
    Nice work.
    “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

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    CAth | 4 September 2012 at 6:57 pm #

    🙂 Amen.amen, aum. aum.

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    Rich N | 4 September 2012 at 7:33 pm #

    Thanks SK, dig this one!!! BTW I really love the paintings of the Indian G-ds you do!!

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    Chris | 4 September 2012 at 8:25 pm #

    wow! sk channeling Mark! You are on fire with it Steve…as Mark was and is. ‘talitha cumi’…yeah, arabic is a poetic language, and Arabia is a poetic culture that describes God poetically and honours poets as revered sages and wise seers. Here is The Lord’s Prayer translated by an arab christian:

    The Lord’s Prayer (from the original aramaic)

    ‘Oh thou, from whom the breath of life comes,
    who fills all realms of sound, light and activity.
    May your light be experienced in my most holy moments.
    Your heavenly domain approaches.
    Let your will come true – in the universe just as on earth, which is material and solid.
    Give us wisdom and understanding,
    and assist us in our daily need.
    Detach the fetters of faults that bind us,
    just as we let go of the guilty acts of others.
    Let us not be lost in superficial things,
    the material, and common temptations,
    but let us be freed from that which keeps us
    from our true purpose.
    From you comes the all-working will,
    the lively strength to act, the song that beautifies all
    and which renews itself from age to age. Amen.

    Nice, huh? Beautiful poetry…

    read mark learn and inwardly digest…

    (Ganesh..god of learning…I like ol’ Ganesh!)

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    Anonymous | 4 September 2012 at 9:07 pm #

    Jesus said “What you do to the least of men, you do to me”. ‘Christians’ should keep this in mind in the way they treat people – all the people they shit on, backstab, cheat or beat? They’ve just done the same to Jesus.

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      Anonymous | 10 September 2012 at 1:20 pm #

      u fail to read (or seek out where it is written)where God warned us the Wolves would get into our churches and masquerade as sheep. eg I met a priest the other day who says he is a christian, but doesn’t beleive in Jesus or the bible, practices and teaches Zen master meditation and preaches in a well known and visited christian cathedral. It is those who pretend to be what they are not that give christians a bad rap. They have their hidden agendas and motives, and I am tired of weeping because of the harm done.

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        Anonymous | 11 September 2012 at 2:25 am #

        I dunno what God said about churches and wolves, but Jesus never mentioned any churches. Why would he, when his teachings were intended to prepare his fellow Jews for what he believed to be God’s imminent intervention in the world and the consequent end of human time?
        Jesus had no intention of founding a new religion and didn’t do so – Christianity was essentially created by St. Paul, who never met Jesus and devised his own views on ‘Christ’ without reference to the real man or his teachings. Nothing that Jesus did or said had any meaning to Paul – his interest was in the power of the Risen Christ, a divine being.
        After Jesus’s death, his closest followers didn’t build their own ‘churches’, they continued to worship in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem – and they worshipped God, not Jesus. This so-called Jerusalem Church remained Jews and didn’t believe that Jesus was divine. Not surprising really, as they were led by Jesus’s brother, James the Just.
        James said that faith was worth nothing without good works. Paul said the exact opposite. Which view seems closer to the teachings of Jesus?
        Many years after the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Romans, the beliefs of the Jerusalem Church were embodied most closely in the later Christian group, the Ebionites – who the Catholic Church classed as heretics. Well, they’d have to wouldn’t they…

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    Chris | 4 September 2012 at 9:47 pm #

    Steve is a natural theologian…he points out the quintessential thing about the spiritual life: getting our relationship right with God and each other and the world. Jesus didn’t come to ‘save us from our sins and this sinful world’…Jesus came to be a saving presence. He was the ultimate free human in right relationship with God and all people and all of creation. Jesus calls us into right relationship with God, each other and the creation in ever-widening patterns of healing and reconciliation. We get in right relationship with God through the experience of prayer, contemplation, praise, worship, holy song and by loving God and by loving our neighbour as we love ourselves. As Steve says, ‘JC loves people so much he can’t stop healing them’…..We don’t need to be saved from this world or see it as flawed and sinful…we need to love it and its children as Jesus does….boundlessly, without judgment, without barriers, without prejudice and greed, without duplicity and lusting for power, without defining the boundaries of God’s love in differentiating the earthly religions. All is One. As Steve says:

    god is great beyond greatness
    and we are tiny parts of this
    everything is
    so open your heart
    and be a part
    not apart

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    zac manzarak | 4 September 2012 at 10:17 pm #

    I agree, most religions are merely intuitions of the same spirituality. They are man-made and hence flawed but they all sense the same energy and wholeness. Dogmatism and fundamentalism divide people rather than bring them together. Ironically, Christ and the religion that took his name are often polar opposites.

  11. avatar
    Chris | 4 September 2012 at 11:36 pm #

    …sk has such a direct line it scares the fuck out of me…

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      BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 5 September 2012 at 11:33 am #

      So do you Chris…

      I believe in the passion… in everything
      that your write…

      Your as gifted as every person, don’t ever think

      Just go and do it , I think Steve would agree…


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    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 4 September 2012 at 11:55 pm #

    I enjoyed todays reading…

    But when the question is posed that : “would Jesus approve of this or that ?” …
    well, I believe that being human is much more than any religious beliefs or
    living within the ‘guidelines’ of another man/woman’s teachings…

    I believe in Freewill and FreeChoice … nobody has taught me or instructed me
    to read and follow this blog or care about a sick little girl that I don’t know or
    will ever meet…its MY will and choice…
    And for those of the many , who will say that God gave that to us – to me …
    well than good on you for telling me that…but are they just not ‘instructing’ me or
    us about a specific teaching – doesn’t that go against what the message is really about ?

    I try my best , each and every day, to do right by every human being …if I succeed- I feel
    blessed to be alive and be a human being , if I fail …than I will tell myself to try even harder.

    I cannot get spun around with the pitfalls of organized religions, they are laughable. They have
    their own best interests in mind whereas I hold others interests over my very own.

    This was a fantastic blog today, the difference between myself and most other people and
    maybe even you Steve , is , iv seen what darkness has to offer and I continuously hear what
    light has in stored for me…

    I chose my own Freewill and if I fail, than I have no one to blame but myself, but if I
    succeed …I will smile and I will try even harder…to be a better human being.

    Luv on all of you…

    Especially you – Killer !


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      BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 5 September 2012 at 12:31 am #

      And for any of u who wonder ‘how’ I keep Steve or Jade or Andy or Alex
      or in fact…each and all of you who are reading this…

      in my prayers …u have to understand my ‘prayer’…

      Everynight they are recited similar to this …

      “please Jade may you have the strength to overcome your illness –
      and live a happy, safe, and wonderfully fulfilling life” …

      I put all the power in the PERSON(S) in my prayers … for they and only
      themselves can truly help or heal or prosper … It has nothing to do with
      any one religion or any one belief…ultimately is praying to the stength and
      power in one’s self…

      I pray to their Freewill…for they, for all, have the true power over
      ones very own life…

    • avatar
      linjo | 11 September 2012 at 9:53 pm #

      Daz you are so right on! Your philosophy is so simple, so pure. I struggle with people that adhere to the teachings of another (especially one that is so unsubstantiated) when it is just so easy. It is just so easy to live your life being a nice person. What is all this fuss about. Surely we are not that complicated. Ok then for those who have lived on the dark side, and who have no ethical and moral indoctrinations from loving and giving families. Those poor people may need a loving guiding force. Linda xxx

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    Marked Like Cain | 5 September 2012 at 2:33 am #

    When St. Paul was confronted by people who had known Jesus and were horrified by Paul’s utterly wrong depiction of him and his teachings, he told them “Let me hear no more of this man, Jesus – let me tell you of Christ the King”. That’s the fundamental problem with Paul, right there. Trouble is, many modern Christians seem to think just like him.

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    John Garratt | 5 September 2012 at 3:04 am #

    My wife went to a baptist church as a little kid. One Sunday school lesson was along these lines (I’m paraphrasing): it doesn’t matter what kind of life you live, all that matters is that you repent at the last minute and accept Jesus.

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    Gerry | 5 September 2012 at 4:12 am #

    What’s wrong with believing in the many vessels and manifestations of the true God.You answered your question in the end.Jesus could have traveled and picked up some tips on the way to Jerusalem.Christ isn’t the hierarchy of the Church so forget that.Believing in Jesus means that you believe that he tapped into an eternal truth in his being.Just like the Beatles……and the church band,,,,,,,you were tapped into too.Music is of the Divine.Would Jesus believe in the church?……band…….Yes.You have always been on the road to find out.If your art has served to make people forget about their despair,their loneliness,then you have accomplished something godlike.Enjoyed the read Steve.Thanks for sharing.Gerry.

  16. avatar
    hippy | 5 September 2012 at 5:17 am #

    I can only speak for my country (U.S.), but it’s disturbing to me the numerous examples I’ve seen over my lifetime of self-proclaimed “Christians” who go to church on Sunday but do not practice the fundamentals of the bible in their everyday life. Just because you go to church, read the bible occasionally, or are a “Christian” doesn’t entitle you to lie, cheat, steal, and be a selfish pig.

    However, I feel it should be proclaimed that all who listen to THE CHURCH be annointed as most holy and truly divine beings.

    BTW, I have recently stumbled upon many excellent SK Australian radio interviews from the mid-80’s, up now on YouTube. Albums like Remote Luxury, OS&H, Heyday, Seance discussed in depth. Fascinating stuff and highly recommended to all commenters here!

    • avatar
      John Garratt | 5 September 2012 at 10:25 am #

      Hey hippy, got any links to those?

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    verdelay | 5 September 2012 at 8:17 am #

    Right on.

    If you stand between the people and the sun, it can appear to the people that the light and the heat is actually emanating from you. Jehovah, then, is just another Being who makes grand claims to supremacy. The Gnostics had this insight and proclaimed it. Jehovah-as-Archon. No wonder they were ruthlessly purged, the Gnostics. Can’t have that idea bandied about too widely, can you? That’s a pretty big claim: that Jehovah is a god, yes, but not THE god. His claims are fraudulent. I’m with the Gnostics. I won’t fall down at the feet of a fraud, however powerful.

    Consequently, I try to steer clear of gods. I do, however, like to converse with spirits. I am in love with the moon, for example, and have a cordial and respectful relationship with a creature that inhabits the old wall at the bottom of my garden (he’s old, old, old). There’s something beautiful and divine living in a stand of birch trees over in the park but I am yet to meet her properly. They are everywhere, these spirits, and nowhere at all. To say that they exist is far too grand. To say that I am making it all up is to miss the point entirely.

    The old country churches around these parts are particularly thick with these spirits. The steeples, the yew trees, the lych-gates. Inhabited, all. Perhaps its the stories of the man whose name is proclaimed at the altar that attracts them in droves? Or perhaps they were there all along, before the first stone was laid?

    But Jesus concerns himself with the world of man, not the world of the Sidhe. That’s how radical he is.


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      thetimebeing | 5 September 2012 at 12:22 pm #

      beautiful writings harry.
      i love christ and dryads and the olden faerie folk
      none of them exclude each other !

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      DavidP | 5 September 2012 at 3:41 pm #

      Jesus was so radical that even the early church fathers in their infinite wisdom decreed some of his own words to be heretical along with their persecution of the christian gnostics
      here is a good short doco about the symbology of christ and about the early gnostics and formation of the bible/church:

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    Kohl Ette | 5 September 2012 at 10:10 am #

    Too much male dominance in too many ‘religions’… when it’s not depressing it’s quite amusing. You’ll see I guess… and you enlightened guys (or am I preaching to the converted?), don’t take it personally, I obviously don’t include you in the remarks. I praise the inner strength and intuition of my womanhood. Oh yes I’m fallible, thank God for that. And thank you for understanding.

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      BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 5 September 2012 at 4:24 pm #

      Hey Coly-grl…

      Dig the new identity…
      As u reread my comment above…
      Women are in the mix – 50/50 split…
      My sweet Laura has her own beliefs –
      and they must b righteous cuz I haven’t met
      a more lovely or kind hearted woman in this world…

      We chose to sometimes disagree but remain open to all opinions…

      A marriage works incredibly well under these guidelines…
      and compromise always rests on top, high on lifes list…

      Happy Day – Cgryl !


  19. avatar
    Steven Krut | 5 September 2012 at 3:17 pm #

    You prompted me to re-read the Book of Mark. Good plot, charismatic main character, surprise twist ending. Liberal use of supernatural elements sprinkled throughout keeps reader interest high. Heard it’s based on a true story, too, if you can believe that…

    I think Jesus and the Buddha would have hung out together if they lived in the same place and time. They would have been best buds, each others’ biggest fan. I think their followers would have thrown cookouts together down on the beach – groovy shindigs full of happening tunes strummed out on lutes, goat-skin frisbees tossed about as Jesus and Siddhārtha sat around the bonfire exchanging parables.

    Yeah, Jesus and his message has been appropriated and corrupted by the fattened, entrenched power holders. This happened originally, I guess, when Christianity was made the state religion of the Roman Empire. Jesus became an instrument for the application of earthly power. What would Jesus think of a place as ostentatious as the Vatican? If he came back, would he stay in the guest suite there, appearing on the balcony alongside the Pope to wave to the adoring thongs below? Somehow I doubt it. He’s be walking amongst and ministering to the homeless and destitute on the other side of town. I think the true Christians will always be the outliers and the rebels – the resisters.

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    Galamor the wizard | 5 September 2012 at 4:41 pm #

    Off topic but what the heck. Thought you’d be interested in experimenting with the Ganzfeld procedure. I haven’t tried it yet but I will!
    This does apparently work – I’m not trying to get you to look silly.
    “Begin by tuning the radio to a station that is playing just static. Then lie down on the couch and tape a pair of halved ping-pong balls over your eyes. Within minutes, you should begin to experience a bizarre set of sensory distortions. Some people see horses prancing in the clouds, or hear the voice of a dead relative” – from the “I fucking love science” facebook page.

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    Serge Zéni | 6 September 2012 at 12:36 am #

    Mark’s book, Steven…
    Well, I don’t know. For some reason, I think of Mark Kozelek — he has written some books, but I never did read one of them.
    People are creating bizarre things that follow others for years and years. But Mark is OK!
    Actually, my fave Red House Painters song is “Summer Dress”.
    What about Sun Kil Moon’s “Tiny Cities”, you know, the Modest Mouse covers album: Ain’t that great? Sure it is!
    Very good version of “Jesus Christ Was An Only Child” in it… for good measure!

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    nathan | 6 September 2012 at 4:53 am #

    i have, (i guess through some oral tradition) heard st. mark cut his own thumb off as to avoid a priestly premotion. but changed his mind when the thumb was back on the next morning? i would like to think it happned.

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    david | 7 September 2012 at 12:52 am #

    …he was in the right place at the right time ….kinda like right now …

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    Lara | 7 September 2012 at 9:43 am #

    Mark the Lion. I like this one:–MacRegol-or-Rushworth-Gosp?sort=Shelfmark%2CFolio_Page%2CRoll_%23%2CFrame_%23&qvq=q:Mark%2BLion;sort:Shelfmark%2CFolio_Page%2CRoll_%23%2CFrame_%23;lc:ODLodl~1~1&mi=2&trs=36

    Such energy in your post–makes me want to reread it myself. Not a Christian, but I admire the ethics of the preacher who aligns himself with the cast-offs of his world. How many religious leaders count themselves as one of/with the homeless, prostitutes, and criminals?

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    Chris | 7 September 2012 at 5:48 pm #

    Thanks Daz…you are an inspiration man…peace and love.

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    Anonymous | 8 September 2012 at 6:16 am #

    just remember… jesus was against the church (organized religion) and there is no evidence he ever ate meat of any form (i.e. – those non-profits like loaves and fishes – I mean, you’re right, all “organizations” twist things to make themselves appear attractive) and he never asked for any form of monetary/valued payment from any of his followers — and he suffered? I dont think so – I think he was okay with his fate; it is the guilt/fear of some/most that sees that as suffering. I think he is the truest form of the heaven we aspire to.

    and other religions (lets not beat up only on Christians…); friends from India for example… inform ‘Americans are way nicer than …if you fell on the typical street [in India] the typical response would be to walk over you/spit on you…’ another friend enrolled in graduate study, had one of her teachers politically beat up on by other faculty (basically, she was fired) because, she being from India had the audacity to tell her students a more “truer” version (other than the fairytale we like to believe in) and she is a sweet/non-angry woman… perhaps the ideal Hindu~!! and the same with Bud’s and many other religions – I get told “reality checks” all the time from those I know don’t lie… funny, how everything’s always greener on that other side.

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    ps | 8 September 2012 at 6:28 am #

    and not to advocate that anyone not go to church — quite the contrary, I believe that if possible we should all go to as many [different type] services as possible — not to criticize nor to idealize, but just maybe you can make eye contact with someone else there and let them know you understand and respect them and (I find it a pretty moment), catch one of those lovely smiles both ways – a gift btwn two… if it caught on [individual to individual) who knows…? I mean, just what if??~~~!!

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    ps | 8 September 2012 at 6:41 am #

    and that repent thing… isn’t it a little over played/relied on too much? just be kind every day. kinda better.

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      John Garratt | 9 September 2012 at 12:24 am #

      Yet top church officials will pretty much admit that repenting matters more than being kind every day. Sad, huh?

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    Boriah | 8 September 2012 at 5:30 pm #

    None of the four evangelists met Jesus Christ. None of them were there when everything happened. First gospel (Marks gospel) was written 65-66 before Christ died. Even the real founder of Christian Church, Paul of Tarsus, never met or had any contact with Jesus Christ. None of the 4 gospels came from objetive sources, all of them are written to elevate the figure and character of Jesus Christ as the Son of God. However, I dont doubt most of what they say were true. I can talk a lot about the message of Jesus Christ (which was really simple) but I will stop here.

    All I want to say is that if anyone want to search for God, he has to combine religious texts with astrophysics and quantic physics texts. A capital question like “Does God exist?” will be answered with time by physics (and I wish a “yes” as an answer). Stephen Hawking made up his mind about this in his last book (he concludes God does not exist). Other questions such as “What´s beyond death?” can only be answered by religion.

    So “open your heart and be part, not be apart”. I´d say you have to choose between to have or not to have faith. I choose to have faith.

    Horns up!

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    Boriah | 8 September 2012 at 5:34 pm #

    Sorry I meant to say “..65-66 years AFTER JC died…” of course.

    BTW. great pic of Aurora playing the Fender bass! Teach her how to use Logic or Garage Band and encourage her to start playing and recording her own songs! Is in your hands!!! I´d finance her first album.

    Stay fierce!

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    narelle | 9 September 2012 at 12:35 am #

    ‘an indiscernible wonder that somehow exists between the words’ nails it Steve!!!

    Steven Hawkings…according to Christopher Hitchens…on his youtube entitled ???’awe inspired’ states that Hawkings has a friend, who in the event of a terminal illness wants to travel through a black hole
    where we will be able to see the future and the past…

    • avatar
      narelle | 9 September 2012 at 12:38 am #

      apologies to the person…its Hawking and late!

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    Once | 9 September 2012 at 1:57 am #

    It is so good to read stuff like this…a guys who totally GETS IT.

    GO SK!!!

    (p.s. totally lol-ing at “j the b”)

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    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 9 September 2012 at 12:49 pm #

    Great stuff…
    from each and all…
    for what its worth ???
    I wonder where …is
    my ordered MnM shirt ???

    As Aaron Lewis would once sing :

    “…its been awhile…”

    I wonder why ?

    • avatar
      thetimebeing | 9 September 2012 at 2:28 pm #

      the t shirts are being delivered to us next week from the manufacturer
      please be patient!

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    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 9 September 2012 at 2:39 pm #

    Just a question…

    With the skin I inhabit – u will NEVER find a more patient

    Saint Lou Lou Rocks !!!

    -such a proud poppy – my k is singing ur twins latest !!!

    Great work !!!

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    hellbound heart | 9 September 2012 at 9:08 pm #

    went to a Sunday church service this morning for the first time since my childhood…..was a wee village church out in the bush and the chap who was running the service was a very down-to-earth fellow…..he had a very strong message of acceptance and tolerance and his belief was that you could talk to God just as well in your front yard as in any church…..we need more people to spread this kind of moderate and compassionate message…

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    Serge Zéni | 10 September 2012 at 2:26 am #

    I don’t think the whole mess has anything to do with Christ for or against Church and vice-versa. This, of course, I’m not concerned with it.
    But those chick battles, wow, as if the only thing to do in the world was to compete just to prove that it’s more fun to complete…?!
    All of these girls from now on: Artistic collaborations.
    Otherwise: Goodbye.

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    Cocoamo | 10 September 2012 at 10:25 am #

    Speaking of the boy-buggering priests reminds me of another defiled religion here in PA, football. Maybe you have heard about the Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky molesting boys. But be it priests or coaches, molesting children takes a pretty sick person. The people who have knowledge of these acts and do nothing to stop it are really the evil ones.

    Then I am reminded that I need to speak up more about people eating meat. If only I could find a way to address the topic without just making it worse – turning people off. Need to work on that.

    Your Friend in Pennsylvania

    • avatar
      thetimebeing | 10 September 2012 at 11:06 am #

      the molestation of children is abhorrent !
      coach priest whatever
      it is abhorrent!
      love you MH!

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    Chris | 10 September 2012 at 6:47 pm #

    The disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
    Jesus called a little child to him, and placed the child among them and said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.

    And if anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!”

    Matthew 18

    Children are natural theologians and are as important in God’s universe as adults….Jesus calls us to treat them with equal respect and care. Beware, those who cause them harm…

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    Chris | 10 September 2012 at 6:52 pm #

    My earliest experience of the ineffable and numinous coming near to me was when I was sitting alone in an armchair in my home as a 6 year old on a sunny Sunday afternoon. I was silent and just thinking…I suddenly had a strong sense that I was not alone in the room…there was a presence with me that was warm and powerful, but I had sense of Holy Fear or Holy Dread as well…that something had come into my life and presence and was not going to let me go, and that I was to be in awe of this being and not take it for granted or see it as in my control. I see this day and experience now as utterly defining in my faith journey to this present day. It was a wordless, affective, intuitive, extra- sensory perception and spiritual insight that defied logic and left- brain, scientific, enlightenment analysis. I now feel this revelation to me was beyond the world of human reason. It was a liminal and littoral experience of being in this world, but not of this world. And I did not need an adult brain to comprehend it or apprehend its power and meaning for me and my life and my life’s journey.

    I have this same sensation when I read Steve’s writings on TTB, and also when I listen to his music….especially ‘Invisible’….how privileged am I? Are we?

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    DavidP | 10 September 2012 at 10:19 pm #

    that’s about removing our adult egos to become more childlike again I think
    removing all forms of inner negativity which bottle up our essence
    and thus awakening spiritually and experiencing true peace and happiness
    and because as children the egos have not yet fully re-incorporated again from what we have built up in previous lives they are more apt to having spiritual experiences as their essence is freer
    just my take on it all

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    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 11 September 2012 at 12:32 am #

    I read the post that u did not post , the other evening…with the ‘blue’ eye…I thought is was fantastic and it was really nice to read more of the family history…

    thanx for the opportunity…

    I suggest -POST IT !!!

    But I think I know the reason -WHY – u chose not to…and thats cool !!!

    love on ya – Kilbs !!!


    • avatar
      thetimebeing | 11 September 2012 at 7:40 am #

      dazza i lost that post!
      i cant find it
      do you still have it
      it was an accident!

      • avatar
        BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 11 September 2012 at 12:00 pm #

        It’s 9pm Monday night here, I think I can ‘reload’ it from my data history from when you and I were on (ur blog) at the same moment, I emailed ur gmail address right when it happened so u can see exact time and date…you may be able to at least bring it up on screen thru your internet history and print the screen…or copy it the old fash way…if I can ‘reload’ it – I will print it and communicate with you, so check ur messages when you can…

        If u hav probs on ur end, contact Andy- he is a wizard in cyber space and he can help u quickly …I believe ….Steve, that was a terrific blog entry- I will try everything right now for hours on end…

        I really think Andy can help…

        (crossing my fingers…)


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    Once | 11 September 2012 at 8:09 am #


    Sun hits your face on a day full of pain
    And the warmth is accepted into your brain
    A little less hurt.
    Car takes your body sad and restrained
    To the place with people who know you by name
    A little less hurt.
    At home you’re accepted by the world that you know
    And pets soft and warm who feel your glow
    A little less pain.
    Wine loosens mind, and writing expresses
    At last you are free from that which depresses
    A little less pain.

    The uncontrollable night.
    There is no warm body beside you.
    The pillow and sheets simply fight you.
    You hate what you are,
    You hate how you got there.

    Dreams hold threats of eternal damnation,
    So waking is always a welcome sensation
    A lot of hurt, but then…

    Sun hits your face.

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    linjo | 11 September 2012 at 5:57 pm #

    My head is spinning, so much information. Thank you to all the commenters. I have always wondered, as Borat noted, that as the first part of the Old Testament was written 60 or so years after Jesus died, how it was possible to have detailed scribe of his words when only a handful of people could read or write in those days? I get your point though Steve as to the importance of whether he really did exist, but someone must have come up with it? x Linda

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