posted on October 2, 2008 at 8:42 pm

a while ago
one of my readers
who i am probably yet to thank
sent me a book
“operating manual for spaceship earth”
which i sat down n read in almost one go
just over last couple of days
written by r buckminster fuller
a name i was predisposed towards liking
after seeing it so much in robert anton wilsons work
wilson of course wrote those great books
eye in the pyramid
leviathan
golden apple
universe next door
schrodingers cat etc
(which perhaps are the subject of another blog)
i was marvelling at this book written in 1969
how incredibly perceptive and erudite it was
with revolutionary ideas (you just gotta read it!)
until the man completely blows his cred
(after all his exhortations to think outside the box)
and completely gets it wrong
with his arch-ignorant summation of hindu philosophy
which he tries to posit in simplistic and erroneous terms
and suddenly
i felt like his whole book was worth nothing
ie
“…it is their religious belief that life on earth is meant to be
exclusively a hellish trial and that the worse the conditions
encountered by the individual the quicker his entry into heaven.
all this because they had no other way to explain lifes hopelessness”
or
“it is paradoxical that indias population should starve
as one beef cattle for every 3 people wander through indias streets,
blocking traffic as sacred symbols of nonsense. probably some
earlier conquerors intent to reserve the animals for their exclusive
consumption.”
here we go
fuller with all his insistence on the physical AND metaphysical
reduces indias sublime and subtle philosophy to this
and in doing so
appears as ignorant as any olde man on the street
and that will be the wests great undoing
to underestimate the incredible mind of india
and to deem its superb complicated thoughts superstitions
and this leads me on to the beautiful practice of yoga
which means union or yoke
(see how close the sanskrit is to english here)
yoga yoke
yoke yerself to the universe is what it means
and it accounts for my renewal
after i was ready to pass into nothingness
as you were reading the other day
i’m doing it twice a day now
in an attempt to double speed the process up
because i want more of the gifts yoga bestows
whatever they may be
you be the judge
a man immersed in total yoga
would seem as a magician or superman
this system and philosophy
this series of poses
this way of devotion (bhakti)
this way of knowledge
of kings
of warriors
is all you will need
if you want to be the best
and fuck it all
i do
i wanna be the best in the world at what i do
because
(heres a little paradox for ya)
we all could be the best
there are all these disciplines out there…
yeah you should really try one
yoga is lovely stuff indeed
you gotta percy vere a little
you maynt love it the first time
(a bit like anything really…)
india gave us this yoga
and i humbly take my hat off to her…

getting very bored with our wag again
i cant believe my comments get hi jacked
for this puerile unfunny aggressive rudeness
against other commentors
i dont care new or old
you are no longer a wag
you are now merely a bore and a boor
you dont piss anyone off like, say,
a tornado or a rattlesnake or a goblin would
no sir
you piss us off
the way halitosis or a flat tyre or a maggot would
see the difference
not OH NO!!!
but errrr no
you are a complete failure
not funny
not controversial
not pithy
not facetious
just rude
like a common or garden yobbo on the street
a sydney street
a sheffield street
a san francisco street
a yob is a yob is a yob
yawn
ok im gonna turn the anons off again
for a while
i love peoples comments
and it saddens me to do so
but….
is this what the boor wants
to shut down his host mechanism..?
like a kind of cancer
he uses up the very thing he preys off
how interesting…..not

some of you miss the point with mal n me
of course i dont think i could do his job
or even would want to
the man is a fuckin rhodes scholar and has a fistfull of degrees
hes smug cos hes brilliant
i write about destiny n fate not my wanting to be him
(i wouldnt mind some of ‘is filthy lucre, obviously)
but i just think its a great story
the 2 teenage boys who meet up oh so long ago
we hated each other
like a panther and a baboon would
and now look at us
cos folks thats where ultra-“straight” can get ya
and where
ultra” bohemian” can get you
ie
a palace by the water with butlers n yachts
2 little lapdogs and a nice suit
or
a rental duplex in bloody bondi beach
with 3 genius daughters
a lovely wife
no money
and a pair of shorts

which do you prefer?
muse; if only you could mix n match….

also
bear in mind this is my diary
its for me as much as you
i work stuff out on here for myself
i talk my self thru it in words
you will see me contradict myself
up one day
down the next
say one thing
do another
i do whatever the fuck i like
you cant hold me accountable
emptor cave!
i am an ancient hippy rocker
i have no allegiance to any but lord vishnu
who is definitely a male
and from whom all blessings flow
on off
hot cold
yin yan
male female
i dunno
i didnt plan it that way
but thats how it surely is

hare krishna
io ao io zeus ammon
jesus loves me!
a big hello to allah
hey hey jehovah
yeah yeah lord shiva
go buddha go
ARE YOU ALL THE SAME GUY??

28 Responses to “misc.”

  1. avatar
    the dean | 2 October 2008 at 10:27 pm #

    I had heard of his geodesic domes and spheres, triangulation but referring to oneself as a futurist is an odd thing.

    I’m a runner but yoga alludes me. what type of yoga do you subscribe to?

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    princey | 2 October 2008 at 11:43 pm #

    I love this diary of yours sk, to read how your brilliant mind works is a pleasure everyday. Yes to Yoga!
    Love Amanda

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    Brien Comerford | 2 October 2008 at 11:58 pm #

    What a fantastic blog today. A recent National Geographic article accentuated that millions of Indians have risen above the poverty level in the last six years. Spiritual homeland to nonviolent Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism. Replete with over 200 million peaceful vegetarians. Becoming a world superpower but Nuclear Pakistan is an impediment. Idiotic George Bush gave countless millions to Pakistan to fight the Taliban and Pakistan used all the money to bomb India and decimate Kashmir. India is an inclusive and amenable Democracy while terrorist harboring Pakistan loathes Democracy in general and Bush in particular. I work with so many Hindu engineers and they are invariably peaceful and cerebral. I’ll always be indebted to this blogger for introducing me to mystical Vishnu.

    It’s still October 2 in Chicago and today’s blog was an apropos read on Mahatma’s birthday. Time to listen to Kula Shaker maybe.

  4. avatar
    captain mission | 3 October 2008 at 12:24 am #

    a number of years ago i had the pleasure of studying with RAW at the maybe logic academy. what a great inspiration. i read his novels when i was a teen and they stuck with me and then i started reading his other books, so way ahead of his time an absolutely brilliant mind and very funny man. it’s quite strange as when i started reading this blog over the first few months i started thinking you and he would have been wonderful collaborating on some projects.
    you both seem very similar. he’s would have loved your work, i’m certain.
    unfortunately he recently passed away last year but left a wonderful body of work.
    in my imagination i always thought the church would have written a great soundtrack to the illuminati trilogy.

    i’d love to travel through india, explore some of my roots, i belive the mission tribe have a connection to a place called goa and i have some long lost family there.

    one of the things i have committed myself to doing from now on is… YOGA. i keep reading your words and somethings calling me, i know intuitively that it’s something i would benefit from and i’m going to take it on as a commitment. this is a huge thing for me as since my brain injury i’ve found it impossible to focus on anything other than reading and music so i’m looking forwards to the challenge but a bit fearful in case i fail, but i guess one can’t fail at yoga, it’s not like a competition.

    okay mr kilbey, a perfect blog today from a followers perspective, i even recognized a bit of old AC in there somewhere.
    thanks

  5. avatar
    tim | 3 October 2008 at 1:18 am #

    a beautiful post today…from beginning to end, really enjoyed it steve.

    nice to be back.

    tim.

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    ...being here, doing this... | 3 October 2008 at 1:52 am #

    “hare krishna
    io ao io zeus ammon
    jesus loves me!
    a big hello to allah
    hey hey jehovah
    yeah yeah lord shiva
    go buddha go
    ARE YOU ALL THE SAME GUY??”

    ~

    all partial images
    of the
    unimaginable
    whole

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    kat | 3 October 2008 at 3:37 am #

    i don’t understand religion after all this time. and what do u mean, sk, by your last lines? are u confused too? i was brought up in a presbyterian church with no pressure and i am spiritual. i dunno. whats it all mean, not to sound stupid? i’m supposed to read the bible? all that i really know is to be kind and try to give back. and that none of us are really in control of much. and that my parents still look after me somehow from above.

    on a lighter note:

    ! got painkiller today! woot! it is Magnifico. i’m addicted for sure. puffer was even giving the the tshirt the once over, it is so great. i love the colors, and the artwork on the cd. jury is still out on fave song tho.

    i think i would like to learn tai chi or kick boxing, sk. yoga seems so mellow i may blow it off! i need some good influence in my life. ha

    happy frieday all

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    m.p.k | 3 October 2008 at 3:39 am #

    Funny, I’ve recently taken a break from yoga after studying consistently for about two years. I got tired of trying to stop the flow of my thoughts all the time. I did learn that if my thoughts bug me I can ignore them or with sufficient concentration, turn them off entirely. If there is more to it than this I haven’t gotten there yet.

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    Hellbound Heart | 3 October 2008 at 4:49 am #

    i kind of get the same calmness and release after i exercise for an hour or so….just let my body’s workings take over and let my mind wander/switch off for a while…of course with the yoga discipline it would be magnified many fold…
    i believe that you’re far closer to finding out if krishna, jesus, jehova et al. are all one than i am…
    do you take any medication for your tinnitis (spelt incorrectly, i know)…mine’s driving me apeshit at the moment…sounds like a bloody choir of cicadas in my head over the top of television static….
    love always…..

  10. avatar
    craig1.618 | 3 October 2008 at 5:13 am #

    steve

    i still read here

    i just don’t say much anymore

    since….well you know….that dreadful day

    that most of us experience in our lifetime

    but i’ve found that when i am missing the most

    i remind myself

    there’s really only one of us here anyway

    and although all this may seem real

    it isn’t

    this illusion this fabrication

    is really us/we/me/you

    having a dream of a memory

    that was over a long time ago

    and i/we/you/us

    have to learn to forgive ourself

    from ever thinking we could exist

    separately

    which in the forgetfulness

    has led us to believe

    we’ve somehow been abandoned

    making this gravity-well of loneliness

    seem as though it can’t be escaped

    but i believe it can and will

  11. avatar
    persephone2u | 3 October 2008 at 6:31 am #

    Since we’re talking about books here, may I just suggest to you, SK, and all of your readers an author that I have discovered rather late in life?

    It is Lord Dunsany, aka Edward Plunkett, the 18th Baron of Dunsany. He was a lovely Irish writer and had devoted friends and fans like Yeats and wrote such beautifully strange stuff.

    I’m in the middle of reading The Charwoman’s Shadow at the moment which was written in the 1920s and have just ordered several of his other works that I’m greatly looking forward to reading now.

    If you like fantasy, you’ll love these books. I should mention however that the books take place more in a dreamscape than an actual landscape and that if you’re looking for something exactly like Tolkien with real and concrete objects in it then you’ll be disappointed as Dunsany’s books are more ethereal than that. The language used is wonderfully evocative and belongs to a time long, long ago, and yet to no time at all. Gorgeous stuff.

  12. avatar
    fantasticandy | 3 October 2008 at 6:58 am #

    steve…
    what the heck are you doing man?
    just caught your late entry on yesterdays comments….
    i don’t wanna know the AMEX gig fiscal details!
    i don’t think anyone who really cares about you and your work does.
    chill mate…wer’e friends.
    and friends ‘fall out’ now ‘n then don’t they.
    you don’t have to justify or detail you earnings to us!
    …so you played one for the ‘suits’….big deal,
    we still love ya y’know!
    all the best,
    andy.

  13. avatar
    CAPTAIN BEYOND | 3 October 2008 at 7:46 am #

    he’s all in the one love…
    Ne iko

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    don joe | 3 October 2008 at 10:27 am #

    Nice blog TB. PK is rockin’ mah fiend. love love love the last track and the 2nd n 4th n 8th n 1st etc etc. I guess the einstein factor got too much with the “nasty ninnies”. Nice and peaceful here today at your blog, maybe god has visited, or whatever name he goes by in our circles of influence.

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    iseult | 3 October 2008 at 10:37 am #

    no i think they’re all different
    that’s the point
    its a team, a differentiation
    humans need to feel they belong to a group
    they also need to feel different to others based on certain things
    they need to copy, that’s how they learn and feel safe
    so they set up a leader and follow and discuss and diverge and all that
    sometimes its called religion, politics, music, literature, or even cake baking or fashion or mountain climbing or living in certain types of communities
    in fact anything at all that serves the purpose of the people themselves, they follow whatever it is that fulfills them
    that defines their lifestyle
    and they fight others who try to intrude or impede or prevent them doing that
    at certain times they may be swayed in a human wave of contagious hysteria and engage in mass murder or philistinism based on their need to merge into an amorphous mass and lose themselves to a greater power, such as nazism or property development, convincing themselves that there is only one truth and that is absolute, and naturally that truth is theirs, plus they may have larger bombs or guns or a great deal of money to prove it
    they may claim to have received confirmation of the ultimate rightness of whatever it is they do, for example awards, visitations from spirits, pieces of evidence, or just be very smug and superior
    or if it’s politics, they may use a convenient show pony for a while to serve a purpose but dispose of them when the weather turns especially if there are no long term allegiances to be lost
    it’s a case of being in the club you’re either in or you’re out
    you’re either invited or you’re not
    you’re in-ness or out-ness may change thus leading to insecurity and displays of commitment to ensure still being in the club
    nothing wrong with any of it
    humans are fairly crazy, generally speaking

    spirituality is a bit different daily meditations which lead to self questioning such as reading this blog is a way to reach that
    because its only through really grappling with what you think and trying to say it, that makes us grow as compassionate caring people
    or experiencing nature or any artforms that remind you of beauty or challenge on occasion and shake you out of yourself and your assumptions
    because the more right you feel the more chance you are wrong

  16. avatar
    steve kilbey | 3 October 2008 at 11:30 am #

    i have some clever readers…
    oh and iseult thanks for bobby f tapes but dvd was blanck….
    lord dunsany sounds right up my alley

    mission you definitely got some indian in ya
    i reckon…on every level…i love ya
    i love all of ya
    sk

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    verdelay | 3 October 2008 at 1:03 pm #

    Dunsany sounds like a goer. Even the name…

    None of his books in my library, but I’ve spotted a biography published in 1972 down on the nineteenth floor…

  18. avatar
    Shawn El | 3 October 2008 at 2:07 pm #

    Three cheers for SK!

    Awesome music, poetry, painting, general muse-icality.

    I welcome this online diary any day.

  19. avatar
    CSTCoach | 3 October 2008 at 3:52 pm #

    SK,

    One thing Buckminster Fuller did nail, as the dean pointed out, was the geodesic dome. I’m sure you’ve seen them. That structure with hard struts that press outwards, surrounded by a skin that pulls inwards. A sphere of such shape is also referred to as a Bucky Ball or tensegrity structure (from tension + integrity).

    Strangely enough, the latest cutting-edge view of anatomy has come to see the body in this way. The bones as struts, the fascia as what pulls inwards. It’s called biotensegrity. All of CST is based on that view of the body.

    That’s why yoga works so well at releasing bound areas. When one section of the “skin” pulling inwards tightens up, the entire system is pulled askew. You can release those bound areas with yoga, thus bringing the entire system back into balance.

    I had no idea Fuller delved into mysticicm too – clearly not as well – but his tensegrity work is first rate. Gives you an insightful, practical view of the body.

    More useless knowledge for ya to file away…

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    restaurant mark | 3 October 2008 at 5:44 pm #

    really loved todays blog steve…i always enjoy when you write about yoga…it inspires and enlightens me.
    thanks…

    take care
    mark

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    Cumulative Buzz | 3 October 2008 at 6:22 pm #

    Steve,

    I’ve been reading yon blogge since week 2 (Wednesday, December 07, 2005 “got no time for private consultation…”

    I honestly never found the need to comment until now. Was happy to have you share a part of yourself with the rest of us.

    Your reference to Robert Anton Wilson compels me to delurk! I always suspected you’d read some RAW, and was very happy to read confirmation.

    I discovered the Church during the Heyday years, and was turned on to RAW at around the same time. Separately and together, they re-wired my circuitry into the person I am today.

    Ahh…reading Cosmic Trigger 1 and 2 for the first time, while listening to A Quick Smoke At Spot’s, Unearthed and Earthed over and over…great memories of happy, mind expanding times.

    I agree with Mission. I’ve always reckoned a Churchian soundtrack to nearly any of Wilson’s books, esp. the fictional work. Steve, please do devote a future blog post to Robert Anton Wilson and what he and his work means to you!

    Thank you for your music, your poetry, your imagery, your blog and your love!

    –Mark

  22. avatar
    m.p.k | 3 October 2008 at 6:33 pm #

    The Church’s increasing creative vitality as the years pass gives me invaluable inspiration and hope that I may too keep my own little flame alive and deepening as a lifelong pursuit -hope and belief that the best years are still to come.

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    the dean | 3 October 2008 at 7:59 pm #

    It is a bit of a misnomer that the cattle of India are wandering around aimlessly.

    A pre-dawn stoll through the markets of any town will show you vast vats of bubbling milk being reduced to kurd, a favourite breakfast for many and also one of two main ingrediencs of the bhang laissie.

  24. avatar
    ml68 | 3 October 2008 at 8:42 pm #

    just sitting here early morning sipping tea, waiting for next instalment with hardly any trace of blog addiction at all…

  25. avatar
    Michael K. Warren | 3 October 2008 at 9:07 pm #

    Hi,

    Been lurking here and there for a while but thought now’s a good a time as any to post a comment. Let me get the adoration out of the way: I LOVE THE CHURCH AND STEVE KILBEY AND EVERYTHING AND I’M EXCITEDLY WAITING FOR PAINKILLER (I also ordered Eden) HOORAY!

    Alright now, someone mentioned Lord Dunsany and I’ll second that suggestion. I’ve only read The King of Elfland’s Daughter but it’s a lovely and poetic story.

    Anyone ever heard of Russell Hoban? He is probably my most favorite author. He’s relatively famous for his children’s books (the Frances the Badger series) but he’s written some beautiful novels.

    Here’re a couple of short films accompanied by Hoban narrating some stories he wrote to give you a small taste of what’s in his head:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMXro9nOYD0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5LdejnnGhQ

    OK, I need to leave for work, bye!

  26. avatar
    iseult | 4 October 2008 at 12:08 am #

    yes sk its one of life’s mysteries that has been revealed to me recently that a wav file on a dvd won’t appear on an ibook or imac whereas on a pc it will

    curiouser and curiouser

    wav on cd version coming

    the second coming!

  27. avatar
    eek | 4 October 2008 at 12:49 am #

    i’m doing it twice a day now
    in an attempt to double speed the process up
    because i want more of the gifts yoga bestows

    See, I told you, you have loads of perseverance and drive. 😉 (and whatever you are doing sure seems to be working!)

    i do whatever the fuck i like

    Atta boy!

    On the wag/boor — although I have been doing my best to steadfastly ignore it (as it obviously craves attention any way it can get it), I have noticed it has become increasingly mean spirited. I think we should put it out of it’s misery once and for all. 😀

  28. avatar
    CSTCoach | 4 October 2008 at 2:23 am #

    ahh, painkiller has arrived 🙂


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