posted on August 5, 2006 at 2:26 pm

are ya sure ya wanna read it?
yesterday we drove 6 or 7 hours from st petes
we got up nice n early
and we drove
n we got lost too
and we sped down huge highways
avoiding cops n trucks n speeding rednecks w/ confederate flags
we go to places where i cant eat anything
the heat n the fumes n the rest rooms
sitting in a van drivin down the endless road
its a hundred outside
humidity turned up full
lightnin’ strike me again n again n again
we finally roll in to jacksonville late n tired n hungry
(i aint ate anything all day
you see there is no time to explore america
we just gotta get where we going)
and the gig is a fucking hole
no dressing room
no nuffing
the meagre amount of people turn up
they talk all the fucking way thru
a) cos we’re boring
b) cos theyre rude idiots
c) all of the above
mwp who works hardest of all
cant stand it
after all that we put into coming here n playin’
they just fucking yack yack yack
i can hear the conversations over the top of music
the gig is ‘orrible
mwp storms off stage
half the crowd leaves
he comes back
we struggle to the end
we hanga round packing up
i get to bed at 3
we get up at 9 and on the road again
i guess its pointless sounding off here
the rude ignorant hopeless yokels
who talked laughed guffawed screamed etc
all thru the gig aint reading this
the ones who might be reading were the quiet ones
who wanted to hear..
so i guess i thank them
i curse the other lot
im sorry to man who approached me n told me he read this blogge
i was rude n churlish
sorry pal
ya caught me at a despairing moment
i feel like i wanna give up
it was fucking hopeless
even if you were a band whod been around only a year….
after 26 years i need a gig like that
like i need a hole in my head
is that it?
after everything, now this
oh well
i guess if we’d been any good
you might have listened
and if i was half the man
i think i am
i’d just be happy
and nice
and everything
would be
myrtle fucking beach
please shut up
please dont roar all the way thru our delicate songs
pretty please..
aw, cmon..?
take a bass over yer head then you wankahs


100 Responses to “more gnus from grum.p. olde-basterd”

  1. avatar
    baby | 5 August 2006 at 2:52 pm #

    and my sympathies.

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    Gareth,Notts | 5 August 2006 at 2:55 pm #

    now that last comment made me f**kin laugh! never mind sk,no doubt there’ll be some fantastic gigs just ’round the time tho,make sure you make the ungrateful bastards wear bass!!

  3. avatar
    Demeter | 5 August 2006 at 2:58 pm #

    Yes, Bass could be the “New Black” for concert attending fashionistas. All will be wearing it, natch?

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    secretBeatinMichigan | 5 August 2006 at 3:01 pm #

    SK –

    It was a bad night all the way around – i drank so much rum last night i’m too pooped to run (that ain’t a good trade – fer cryin’ outloud, there’s peoples many places everywhere that would like to run ‘an i waste my opportunity drinkin’ rum).

    This is not yer happiest post, SK. You and the boys got a lot on your minds – doesn’t matter that you live the Life of Artists – that comes with its own deep pitfalls ’cause you live and die by how others react to your Art – and its a tender Art few (in the U.S.A. especially) can dig (“can” because that is a Fact).

    But keep it in mind, brother – there’s a sizable group of us waitin’ for ya in Dee-troit. Hope tonight goes better (and hope you eventually get a chance to actually see the spaces in the U.S. you actually want to see – that’s a drag!).

    Still the same – the story is what counts!

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    farmboy | 5 August 2006 at 3:12 pm #

    damn, you snuck a post in on me while i was responding to the last…. sorry for jacksonville, my friend. as my buddy oaf would say: hop on the beer truck and head to the next village. perhaps myrtle beach will be better? after all, “it’s not what you bring, it’s what you bring back”.
    now where the hell is that kiddie pool….

  6. avatar
    Jeff McFarland | 5 August 2006 at 3:21 pm #

    When I bought my tickets in Jax, I feared the gig would be canceled because someone in the band would see the venue and say “no fucking way I’m playing there.” I guess I’m lucky that didn’t happen, but not so lucky for the lads in the band.

    The crowd was truly awful. Poor Marty actually having to “shush” people by the stage in the middle of the song.

    SK didn’t even mention the worst part. For the encore, they played Unguarded Moment. Then he began singing Invisible. After a couple of words, someone yelled “Play Unguarded Moment!” Right in the middle of the goddamned song!

    My apologies from a fan who was actually listening (or trying to) over the din. We felt for you (and Rob, who was quite good).

    If it makes you guys feel any better (and I suspect it won’t), I saw Norah Jones and her piano at a nice theater downtown, and in the middle of a quiet vocal part, someone yelled “Play Freebird!” So much for Jacksonville.

  7. avatar
    veleska1970 | 5 August 2006 at 3:40 pm #

    gee, steve, all i can think of to say is “i’m sorry”. why are people such assholes? all of you had every right to walk off and not come back.

    i would have.

    well, the odds are that it can only possibly get better, not worse. please don’t give up. yes, you ARE good. don’t ever doubt that.



    but IF you do decide to klunk some mother-effer chatterer over the head, just don’t use that precious guitar, ok? use the mic stand or something.

    lotza love….

  8. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 3:41 pm #

    Hope the venue wasn’t as bad as SLC (Marty’s favorite!) on the AENT tour.

    Worth a mention: the thing I have always loved about The Church is that it is about art — not about whether a mass of uninformed idiots actually accepts it. So, you guys appeal to the few who know a good thing, and the rest of the world fumbles in ignorance. We’re spreading the word though.

    Looking forward to SF (12 hour drive, by the way, and totally worth it).

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    littleginseng | 5 August 2006 at 3:42 pm #

    Steve,Can’t believe how much nonsense you had to put up with last night.Half the crowd saints, the other half fucking yahoos.And that hole where you played…that’s the last time I put a foot in there.But me thinks you were graciously fabulous nevertheless.Thank you for bearing through.Sorry I caught you before you had a chance to eat your dinner.Bad timing on my part.Japanese was it?No apology necessary,my friend.I know how I can get when I haven’t eaten for a while.Hope the rest of the tour goes well for you and finishes on a high note.All the best,Al

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    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 3:51 pm #

    Granted, the following comes from someone not versed in tour economics, but if possible, next U.S. tour (if we are lucky enough to get the same) let us come to you. Limit your exposure, focus on major metro areas and proven venues, let the faithful stream in from all points north east south and west. When the tour dates and venues for this go around were posted, I feared the worst with minimal attendance and attention, and your posts confirm my fears. I’ve seen four Church Chicago shows over the course of the last 10 years (five come August 18) and I’ve never left disappointed in venue, crowd or band.

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    syrinx | 5 August 2006 at 4:04 pm #

    I just sent a copy of “we reach the horizon” to my best bud Steph. We realize now we’ve been friends with each other longer than anyone else in either of our lives.

    She lives in St. Pete Florida now, is working on an advanced degreee, gonna give a shot to saving that part of the planet. The best bits of FLA. Go girl. She isn’t a music person, though. But it was her boyfriend, who – Back In The Day in Tennessee – came home with a stack of vinyl acquired during a world trip he’d taken. Unpacked it all and told the lot of us to take whatever we wanted and try it out. I grabbed Of Skins And Heart and Heyday. And so she, really, is to blame. 🙂

    Poetry she appreciates. I can’t wait to hear her reaction to the sensual savage circular entry I just mailed off. Especially since that night, you did seem to love her turf – the one she wants to save from ruin.

  12. avatar
    Cameras 4 Eyes | 5 August 2006 at 4:07 pm #

    It amazies me that you guys [esp the two with tintinitus] can hear audience chatter over your acoustic-on-steriods delivery. There must have been real screaming. Outlaw drink and legalize marijuana for a mellow crowd! This week’s Time magazien has Ten Questions with Willie Nelson, that reads like Ten Questions with Steve Kilbey.

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    MJFRIMODIG | 5 August 2006 at 4:31 pm #


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    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 4:37 pm #

    Why do the negative commenters get more of a response from you than the positive ones?

    These people are baiting you. Ignore them. Maybe they’ll go away.

  15. avatar
    fantasticandy | 5 August 2006 at 4:42 pm #

    steve,when i saw you and the boys in london acouple of months back,it was one of the best days i can ever remember.fuck stupid people.tell marty he is the dogs bollocks,the same goes for peter.tim is the best since the guy out of sk,are the best you ever bin.fuck em’,fuck em’all,they ain’nothin’ but animals.come back to europe soon,come back to england,go back to where you’re a national treasure,good old down under!damn yankees,such a shame for the few who utterly frustrating for you and for them.please don’t stop,you have the most innovative and vital band on the planet right now,but for some reason only ‘heads’ and maybye god can ‘get it’ much love and loads of respect to you all,andy

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    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 4:58 pm #

    The Church is GOOD! Don’t ever forget it! I loved your music then now and forever. I saw you in New Orleans and was amazed with the show and embarrassed by the talking. I am sure the talking is not a reflection of your music, it is a reflection of the talker’s mentality! Keep it up and never stop.

  17. avatar
    Todd Mitchell | 5 August 2006 at 5:07 pm #

    jeff mcfarland writes: “If it makes you guys feel any better (and I suspect it won’t), I saw Norah Jones and her piano at a nice theater downtown, and in the middle of a quiet vocal part, someone yelled “Play Freebird!” So much for Jacksonville.”

    LOL. Welcome to the Beautiful South.

  18. avatar
    Supper's Ready | 5 August 2006 at 5:18 pm #

    Hey Steve,

    I see where you’re coming from. However, also consider this. There were fans (like me) who drove 2.5 hours or more through some of the same rainstorms, avoiding the same state troopers, grabbing a quick sandwich at a nearby Panera by way of dinner, only to discover, like you did, that the gig was a hole and that a lot of the people there were a yakking hazard.
    It didn’t help that one of the first things we heard from the band was MWP yelling “shut the fuck up.” What did WE do? In fact, from where I was standing, I couldn’t even hear most of the talking (except for one girl, but we made her shut up), making all the talk about talking even more disruptive.
    MWP normally is such an engaging performer, but now he continued to aggravate the situation, by not playing half the time or doing so in only a half-assed way (except during the encore). Not a lot of respect for the fans who DID come for the music, often from afar (and still paid the $20 or $25, of course). In fact, if I saw it correctly, you turned towards him at one point wondering why he wasn’t playing, and he said “I’m not in this part.” I was half-hoping you were going to tell him to get his act together (pun intended).
    At least you were a trooper. My favorite nonmusical moment was when everyone walked off the stage leaving you behind saying “I dunno what’s going on” and then volunteering to play a bass solo. I’m sorry that the whole gig was such a bad experience for everyone involved. You deserve the best venues and audiences and we deserve your best efforts.
    My advice for the future: avoid the red states. It comes down to a simple rule: Anywhere the Church is big, the Church is not. It would be great if the reverse held as well. But I’d certainly think you’d find better audiences and venues in places like Seattle and Boston. I’ve been living in FL for 12 years and believe you me, you’re your impressions of it are on the money. One of these days, I’ll be moving back to good old Europe.

    P.S. What a nice, down-to-earth, and articulate fellow TP is.
    P.P.S. Have you noticed how much PK is starting to resemble Mr. Bean when he makes a joke? Maybe this can become your secret weapon in the war against the “rude ignorant hopeless yokels.”

  19. avatar
    Sharky's Place | 5 August 2006 at 5:33 pm #

    I am grateful for two things:

    First and foremost that I got to catch the show in Houston. I tried during their stint at SXSW in Austin a couple of years back, but that just didn’t happen. The show was great and I particularly liked the duct tape on MLP’s guitar. I was a bit peeved at the yappers, but by far the guys had the stage and put on a great show.

    Second, I am particularly greatful that the official Church website has a mailing list. If not for this list, I would probably not have even known that they were coming. Probably the most unique and talented world-class band that I have ever heard and there were few (if any) adverts.

    And this “old washed up” BS is confusing me. Maybe it’s just that odd sense of humor that Virgos have, but I can play Reptile at one of my gigs and it sounds just as fresh today as it sounded in the 80’s. That goes for all of The Church’s work to date. Their art is chronologically transcendent.

    Thanks a lot guys.

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    stealthblue | 5 August 2006 at 5:39 pm #

    Wow, sounds lovely.
    I’m sorry you had to experience that. (As if I have to apologize for a bunch of loosers that can’t appreciate a good thing) I just felt really sorry for you guys having to suffer though that crap situation, reagrdless of whether anyone actually paid to be there or not. Sometimes it comes to a point when you’re just like…fuck it, let’s bail. Man, I really hope things get better for you in the next week or so, because it seems to me that you are heading to some really appreciating places, ie: CHICAGO, actually… the rest of the tour looks like it should be pretty good. I think you might have spent a bit too much time in “hodunk” Florida, but as you work your way up from the “sawff”, things will roll better for you and the boys. Poor Marty, I hate to think of him getting down too. He is usually the one with a permanent smile. Those dipshits pissing you guys off…they are just ignorant bastards. So what were they talking about that was so important over your show…NEW SHOTGUNS, BUGZAPPERS, the newest “Heart-Healthy” WONDERBREAD, how WalMart gotz FREE HAWTDAWGS on the Fourth of JULAH??! ***No offense to any of the CIVILIZED folks that reside in those areas*** Anyway, you’re over the hump, ain’t ya? On to bigger cities, where people actually drink from glasses, eat with forks, and actually replace the toilet paper roll when it’s empty! Just think you’ll be heading back off to Oz in a cuppla weeks, back in your element. Well, I do hope things get WAY better for yas, all of you in the band and whomever else is roamin with ya. “Always look on the bright side of life…whew-whew, whew-whew, whew-whew, whew-whew!!!” (or however you’d spell a whistle) 🙂
    Love all of you rascally mates…

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    syrinx | 5 August 2006 at 6:11 pm #

    I just can’t *fathom* this thing about people ruining the shows, for respectful fans and the band as well. The shows I saw, people were just THRILLED TO BE THERE, and at the end of the last show, Marty playing “Grind” to the point where I thought the guitar might very well break, folks went NUTS…I DON’T GET THIS. I’m starting to become FRIGHTENED YOU GUYS WILL NEVER COME BACK. And it makes me want to inflict bodily harm on people. I’m not so big, but…I could take out a few kneecaps. Stuff a plastic cup in someone’s big mouth. I’d do it!

    You’ll need a break from us for true, but for a couple scary seconds the thought occurs that This Might Be…IT!! Who could be so evil as to cause this to happen?

  22. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 6:14 pm #

    Lets face it marty willson piper is an asshole…..

  23. avatar
    gigi | 5 August 2006 at 6:14 pm #


    I have been to 3 Church shows over the years and I have NEVER been let down by you guys, I’ve been puzzled by the crowd before(see GAF Orpheum show story at the womb)though. I think with The Church some people connect and some people don’t. For me your music touches something inside me, it has a beauty to it that moves. It’s music I can feel. I think most of the people who listen to you feel the same way, though it seems like others have invaded some of your shows and the heat and travel is beating you down. Hang in there Old Beane we love you guys, I can feel it right here!

  24. avatar
    Centuryhouse | 5 August 2006 at 6:17 pm #

    Steve, I’m sorry to hear it went that way. As you said, the bastards that yak all the way through it are idiots and not the ‘real’ fans.

    That’s got to be disheartening. Tell the rest of the band that we appreciate you and are glad you’re making the grueling trek through our land to play for us. Hang in there.

    Daniel W.

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    Rama Dee | 5 August 2006 at 6:24 pm #

    In Amerika, its all about the loud noise…its putrid…oh i’m so negative!!!! i shouldn’t say anything TRUE…sorry man, and anyone who still doesn’t see, the good olde USA can be quite a fucking drag…please, save all the goodness and light for someone else…i want a witness!!! Let’s face it, there aint too many places in this great spread that have any real class… or exude any knowledge…yeah, i read the comments and POV…each to their own…thats all very nice…whatever…America Sucks!! yeah yeah all the pretty deserts and shit…go out there and find some truth…youll be right back where you started…inside your room, trying to dream it away for sumthing else, so remote and solitary… all so insightful! Keep up the good work Eskimo***** Shantih~

  26. avatar
    Chump | 5 August 2006 at 7:00 pm #

    What you should do is just put the most annoying feedback through the speakers until the bastards shut thier mouths.

    See you tomorrow in Atlanta. I’ll be listening, I promise.


  27. avatar
    cornfed | 5 August 2006 at 7:04 pm #


    (laughs at impressive consistency)

  28. avatar
    Rama Dee | 5 August 2006 at 7:04 pm #

    on a lightness of being note: Steve, or anyone else, have you seen this Chris Angel sorry fer mentionng it, I aint a tv watcher or couch-head(Maybe I yam)… I know ya like Magik..who doesnt? well, anyway, its pretty frickin amazing shit…our little ole world can transmogrify(?) inna something else, if ya got the secret…some hope there…stopping time, re-arranging shit, making people disappear?? could be useful…

  29. avatar
    Rama Dee | 5 August 2006 at 7:05 pm #

    its the corn-tamination

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 7:07 pm #

    I was at a Luka Bloom acoustic concert once and there were a bunch of girls at the back yattering away like a group of teenagers at the prom. Luka stopped playing in the middle of a song, and asked “Can you girls at the back hear me okay?” Silence, for the first time that night. “Coz I can hear you just fine.” That shut em up.

    Looking forward to Milwaukee.

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    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 7:15 pm #

    hi steve,

    well, i feared the most when i heard you were playing jacksonville. I grew up not too far from there, and it was always rather scary place for me.
    Now, I have no idea about the show tonight in SC, but i am optimistic the atlanta show will be very good for ya. As you know, variety playhouse is definitely a “proper” venue, and seems you have a great group of fans there. kicking myself for not being there. But Maya dont let me go 🙂
    oh, and many very good veggie restaurants near variety playhouse. it won’t be anything like jacksonville. I even think the crowd will be mostly quiet and respectful while you play.
    still lots of folks talking about your gig here. you guys really left a strong (and very positive) impression.
    and finally another decent gig coming up next week (Radiohead), seems i will get some time backstage with the guys. Its exciting, but would rather see you guys again.

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 7:23 pm #

    Oh Rama
    I hear you
    breathe in breathe out..
    Man, Sk
    you guys might need to limit your US Southern engagements
    I know its tough roading and all, but there are better cities
    Hell there are some nice akoustic venues
    all over Chicago and few gems I know here and there..
    I can help with booking next time..if you like
    Yeah apologies guys, I think poeple arent used to the acoustic mentality,
    if you guys could strike down electric a couple tunes it
    would shut them up..
    Really sorry about these ass wipes..
    they dont know how to enjoy music.. let alone life
    We’ll I know one day I will wake up and you guys are gonna come out and blow it all away
    be strong you guys,
    go find a sanctuary
    take a day at a national park in Tennessee or Illinois
    Meditations be with you nevets
    the weather is cooling in Chicago..
    we love you guys
    take it slow drive around the idiots
    and dont get lost
    drive safe and be easy
    there is good energy waiting for you..
    Soul Vegetarian, Amitabul, Green Zebra in Chicago..

    Jaime r…

  33. avatar
    calling down baal and zeus | 5 August 2006 at 7:23 pm #

    sakes alive sailor sailin the seas o cheese and crackers!

    i genuinely appreciate these insights….
    i most certainly appreciate what you men create ….

    this heat

    is relentless

    bugger the dim folk
    spay and neuter the fools
    you dont need some license …fuck it you dont need me harpin on …

    wish you well

  34. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 7:49 pm #

    parked da chevy way back in penny lane
    only to embrace but a black lake

    the rubies were all gone

    i wish you all the jazzzz in da f* world + so much more, Mr. K.

    Love, cracka
    ps. IF boolean THEN come 2 europe

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    aaronpaul | 5 August 2006 at 8:06 pm #

    I am so looking forward to the show in Atlanta. I do hope it is not as in was in JAX. Maybe me and my mates can stand around the front with menacing basses? Would that not be odd to be known as a Church hooligan?

  36. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 8:22 pm #


    Thanks for enduring the hardships of this American tour. You are providing a great service by getting in that van and getting through our country, and letting those who care about your music have a chance to listen. The losers are out there, but they are a minority. I work as a public librarian (my wife does too, as Centuryhouse mentioned– great chatting with you in the parking lot in Dallas), and the 9 out of 10 people are great. The 1 out of 10 isn’t, and unfortunately that’s the one you remember. So, remember the appreciative crowd in Dallas last week, and try to forget the rest. Not that you’re asking my advice of course. And also, I guess, think of what’s being done as a public service, which is what it is, really. To perform well and with integrity is a great service. And to do so, while at the same time being a GREAT artist, is something very rare indeed, and which puts the Church in very select company. As for depressed mood, I recall a particular Church song from Seance– I can’t remember it’s title– but it talks about life going on some downward slope (is the song Electric), and for me that song is the only one in all the rock and roll I’ve listened to that captured my own depressed feelings at a particular time. It’s the “Enormous yes” that Philip Larkin describes of the playing of Sidney Bechet.
    Well I’ve drifted from whatever the hell I was saying.


  37. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 8:36 pm #

    hi sk
    hope todays and tonights
    food, travel and show
    feel like a different galaxy
    from last nights

    and remember

    false: a) cos we’re boring
    true: b) cos theyre rude idiots


  38. avatar
    CAPTAIN BEYOND | 5 August 2006 at 8:56 pm #

    I am sorry that some folks just don’t understand THE CHURCH, why buy a ticket if they don’t want to listen, I PROMISE I WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN…NEVER…EVER…IN MY WHOLE NEW LIFE…(thanks to you)

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    J Street | 5 August 2006 at 9:19 pm #

    What is this???

    Olde Kilbey, you have every right to be churlish and unhappy–America hasn’t treated you well on this tour.

    I know you’re all pros, but if the HcCHurhch is playing, if the yabbos won’t shut up, gig’s over. Sorry, but that’s the way it should be.

    Guess you can talk through Dave Matthews, Emo Bright Lies, bad bands, boring bands, slacker bands who never try hard, whatever else. Crap bands have left us with this sad state of affairs–people don’t even know what a gig is supposed to be anymore because they’ve had nothing good to listen to. Either that, or they don’t know good music.

    Hang in there, olde Kilbey, olde hippie with a tourbus full of friends and otherwise–now you know why don’t live here anymore.

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    markie65 | 5 August 2006 at 10:00 pm #

    Has someone who lives in jacksonville and has been a fan for over 21 years, I was glad to see you guys coming to town! To be truthful I had never heard of the place, ” jack rabbits” and I have been liveing there for almost 19 years! Not a lot of places for bands like the Church to play in this town and when you do, well after the show was over, I was ashamed that I live here. It was plain to see that most people there, were not there for the music. A simple request by all accounts went unheeded! and people would not shut up! I’m very sorry that the band had to put up with that, and I wouldn’t have been surprised if Marty had not come back on stage. As for all the other fans of your music who were there, I personal thank you for putting on a great show, with every thing that happened. I hope the show tonight goes much better than Jacksonville! I quess we’ll see? Best regards.

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    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 10:07 pm #

    Wise one……

    it was YOU who UP-ended my musical world about 20 years ago….

    it was YOU that ispired me to buy my first Fostex 4-Track cassette recorder…..

    it was YOU that jazzed me into picking up a fretless bass…..

    it was YOU that gave me the exciting thrill of being able to create my own music in my own home on my own terms……

    it was YOU that caused my album/tape/cd collection to burst at the seams with EVERY Church-related recording EVER released…..

    i was one of the quiet ones on your trip through hell. i felt embarrased by the behavior of some of my neighbors. i am a bit overwhelmed by a tragic sense of loss…..of missed opportunity…of wasted time…of underappreciated efforts. it makes me sad. i wonder if i’ll ever see you and the gang LIVE again. i can’t quite shake the memory of you standing at the mic and singing “All I Know”…the lyrics of which seem quite poignant at this point. haunting. there ARE folks out there who love yah and appreciate what you do. take care, SK….you’ll be back in your own bed swimmin’ laps again before you know it. peace.

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    Melquiades | 5 August 2006 at 11:10 pm #

    Steve, sorry to hear the South was a let down. Did these people actually pay for admission or were they leacherous libatious locals sipping on their grey goose mixes and budwanker piss?

    I swear if I am next to anyone at the shows I attend and they are buzzing about nothingness above your music I will give them an arm an an elbow. 🙂

    with love,

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    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 11:12 pm #

    SK – time to pull out the Spinal Tap video and bask in the surrealism and parallelism of what you are going thru! Laugh, because for sure down the road you will…your diary entertains because of your situation…I look forward to reading your thoughts everyday.

    You are a true poet who has been given a great deal to comment on – we love it – keep it coming!

  44. avatar
    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 11:13 pm #

    …and remember – you haven’t yet played a military dance yet have you???

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    Anonymous | 5 August 2006 at 11:27 pm #


    Glad to see that your Florida nightmare has come to an end. I cannot believe that someone did not warn you about playing down here, especially a redneck hellhole like Jacksonville. I was at the Ft Lauderdale show and it only validated to me why so few great bands (like The Church) make the trek down here. Please do not take the crowd behavior personal, as it goes on at most shows down here. I just thank god I do not have to call myself a Florida Native. You and the guys need to keep pressing on, as there are better days ahead on your US trek.

    Thanks to you and the band for all the great Music. Remember that there are so many of us in the US you have deeply touched through the years.

  46. avatar
    Melquiades | 5 August 2006 at 11:32 pm #

    fantasticandy said…
    “come back to europe soon,come back to england,go back to where you’re a national treasure,good old down under!damn yankees,such a shame for the few who understand.”





  47. avatar
    John Garratt | 5 August 2006 at 11:54 pm #

    Instead of having security pat people down as they come through the doors, why don’t they just put a big piece of tape over their mouths?

    Oh, wait. Then they can’t drink.

    In Cincinnati, I will not utter a peep. You have my word.


  48. avatar
    John Garratt | 5 August 2006 at 11:58 pm #

    MJFRIMODIG, I vividly remember the Magic Stick in 2002.

    The PA blew up during “Night Friends.” I have it on CDR.


  49. avatar
    Queen Hatshepsut | 6 August 2006 at 12:12 am #

    Well my goodness. What a variety of comments. First, like almost everyone else on here, I’m really sorry to hear about your sh** drive/show last night. MWP does work his a** off; when you work with Marty, he makes you WORK!! But I treasure all new experiences like that because it gives me insight into how things really work in other arenas, so to speak. And work is the operative word there! The man seems like he has the energy of a thousand people. I’m not surpised he walked off stage; it’s too bad for the REAL fans – but I understand the frustration.

    Something struck me as I was reading the blog I spent the day in Malibu today at a graduation ceremony for a friend getting his MBA. Now this is at a smallish excessively expensive private university – the same one I graduated from with my B.A. 17 years ago. The behaviour of the audience today – the FAMILIES and FRIENDS of the graduates – was deplorable. My friend and I just sat there stunned. People talked LOUDLY throughout each speaker, pushed and shoved each other to get better pictures/video, blew those annoying as hell sports-events HORNS and deafened us, screamed and yelled like animals being tortured as names were called out, brought screaming toddlers and let them scream for the ENTIRE ceremony, walked up and down and across you a million times for this or that like your legs were some kind of highway…there was no decorum at all. People were behaving like boorish self-centered a**holes. I honestly, honestly do NOT recall people acting this badly when I graduated. I feel like I see more and more rude behaviour EVERYWHERE. I’ve only spent a small amount of time in Europe – so I don’t know if this is a world-wide Western(?) phenomenon or simply an American one. But I know this – fewer and fewer people have manners. And those of us that do, and adore you guys – well, we are afraid you won’t come back here because of these idiots.

    I hope and pray the rest of the tour goes more smoothly. My brother will be at the Atlanta show tomorrow night and I can’t wait to get a review from him…and you of course. Two Stevens giving their reviews. I hope it’s a happier one. You work your butts off, and this is what you get.

    This probably won’t make you feel ANY better…but once I was teaching a class on Renaissance art, and apparently not moving at quick enough pace for one student, who yelled, “GO FASTER WITH THE SLIDES!” because you know, you can just sum up the entire Renaissance in about 30 seconds. This was also the day a girl answered her cell phone in the middle of my lecture and started talking to a friend. I wish you had the power to kick people’s rude a**es right out the door of the club. Heck, I wish I could do it. I would.

    Hang in there – it’s gotta get better!

  50. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 12:31 am #

    Hi Steve

    Your writing style reminds me a little of the late Charles Bukowski
    Humour amidst the misery….
    Or the misery at which you laugh!
    Oh the humanity of it all!


  51. avatar
    bucks burnett | 6 August 2006 at 12:35 am #

    Stevie Boy: You must remember me olde pal the rudeness of the so called audience usually has nothing to do with the quality of the performers. It’s just more of the same bad behavior they exhibit in other facets of their lives, only fueled louder by alcohol and having to compete with the volume of music they’ve paid to ignore. I can tell you exactly what they’re talking about; they are complaining about how loud everyone is talking. And so it goes…

    At a talk-infested club gig once I actually stopped the performer (Richard Julian), and told him his music was drowning out the conversation of the audience that i was trying to hear. Not a fucking comment from anyone after that! I would suggest you get inventive. Stop a song and ask specific people what they are talking about. Go into the fucking audience with a mike and interview the talkers about what’s on their mind. Apologize for mistaking their talk show for your gig. Stop playing and ask everyone who’s not talking to watch and listen to everyone who’s talking, for at least 2-3 minutes. Whatever it takes to help these idiots realize they’re pissing in the fountain.

    But above all, remember this joke I made up:

    Q: Why did god invent the straw?

    A: Because he knew people would suck.

    Cheers, Snoop Bloggy Blogg

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    kellym | 6 August 2006 at 12:55 am #

    kellym said…
    Oh dear,

    hoping audiences (and food) get better…maybe you’re at the low point of the tour and the only way is up (and North)?

    i remember seeing Paul Kelly at a show when the audience was blathering away, and he kept playing more quietly and softly, with his eyes flicking out to see if the idjeets noticed, as the music got softer and softer.
    this made all the fans leaner in closer & saved the show.
    You may have to get a little more physical (throw something at them?) but, by all means, fuck with them–it’ll make you feel better.

    Anxiously awaiting you all in San Fran and wishing you happier vibes as you head our way.

    “uninvited” has been my summer soundtrack… thank you all very much for that.


  53. avatar
    Jonathan in Kansas City | 6 August 2006 at 1:05 am #

    Love your music guys… But guess what…. The club scene is not all about you….. Some people have a lot more on their mind then watching a bunch of guys obviously hating what they are doing.

    Your blog speaks volumes. Feel any way you want, that is where you are right now.

    Don’t expect people to show you some sort of respect in a club. Come on….. You are touring clubs….

    I am a performer in theatre. I hope people come along for the ride and get to experience some great life-changing art. But you know what…. It’s not about them. It’s about us creating a moment on stage and if they happen to catch a glimpse… Good for them. I hope that is why they come.

    Play your music like you HAVE to do. You are doing what you HAVE to do. It would be easier to do something else and not put up with the 100+ heat and deal with us ugly Americans. But you are doing what you HAVE to do as an artist. Remember what it is about the music that motivates you.

    If that is dead…… Then save yourselves and us the torture of listening to washed up musicians. We want to hear passionate music and the audience doesn’t matter. Do what you were created for.

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    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 1:06 am #

    I don’t get it. What is the point of this tour? I caught the band in Phoenix and I astonished at the poor turn out. In the blogs that follow I see that very few people are going to the shows.

    Who the hell is handling The Church?

    At a time when The Church are making the best music they have ever made…
    I just don’t get it.

    Im glad I went to see them because it’s starting to seem like it might have been the last oppotunity to dig them in my hometown.

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    sue cee | 6 August 2006 at 1:24 am #

    God that pisses me off no end, it happens in Sydney too, the talkers who like the sound of their own damn voices… and some of them are supposed fans too, go figure, spoiling the show and then absolutely ruining the moment because someone has to tell them shut TFU!

    Carry a spare bass please! oh weapon of mouth destruction! Duct tape, yeah that could work 🙂

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    Daberhasher | 6 August 2006 at 1:32 am #

    …wankahs away me buoys, wankahs awaaaaayyyyyy….
    you lot just launch into that next time the peeps get too peepish… who amongst the band posesses the Ethyl Merman gene??? seriously though, since florida is obviously the flaccid dangly bit of this hall of mirrors nation that you’re bandying about in, tings now can only get better SK mon… oy vey, to put up with yon drunken masses AND miss your kiddies… strange world… stranger still, a bass to the head may cause a surge in sales… or at least a spot on the insider….


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    renaissance | 6 August 2006 at 1:38 am #

    one day this may all cease!

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    Todd Goninon | 6 August 2006 at 1:44 am #

    the church are slow sometimes…

    but they still raise fists in the air!

    how we love sometimes anywhere!

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    mike a | 6 August 2006 at 1:50 am #

    I hope you connect with the audience somewhere here in America, what a pitty it hasn’t seemed to happen yet!!

    I can’t wait to see you in Chicago on the 18th!!

    Just remember, out of an audience of 100 people, there may be 98 jerks, but there are those two real Church fans that have been waiting years to see you and who are hoping the performance is magic…

  60. avatar
    The Laughing Blogster | 6 August 2006 at 2:06 am #

    Hello Steve!

    Just took a peek at the Karmic Hit site.

    I think you may also enjoy mine!

    Refreshingly Yours!


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    lizardlizard81 | 6 August 2006 at 2:08 am #

    jeff mcfarland writes: “If it makes you guys feel any better (and I suspect it won’t), I saw Norah Jones and her piano at a nice theater downtown, and in the middle of a quiet vocal part, someone yelled “Play Freebird!” So much for Jacksonville.”

    — I wish I could remember where I heard/read that the great truth is most people who scream about “Freebird” have never actually sat down and listened to it from beginning to end. Yea, the first little bit gets you all pumped up, but after awhile you get bored and wonder off to do something else or what have you.


    The talking thing is just ridiculous. Perhaps higher ticket prices would help (but, once again, why punish the people who really want to be there?) I just don’t get it. If you want to take your business clients out and show them a good time, go to a strip joint or something! You’ll have a lot easier time there because I promise no matter how much you jabber, Steve is not going to show us his titties.



    If you’re watchin’: I like your style, sir, it makes my head hurt. It’s like reading cheerful transmissions from our friend Alex of ‘A Clockwork Orange.’


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    lizardlizard81 | 6 August 2006 at 2:11 am #

    -mike a said…
    I hope you connect with the audience somewhere here in America, what a pitty it hasn’t seemed to happen yet!!

    I hope Austin was like this for the band because it certainly felt like this for me. Steve leading us all in an ‘Under the Milky Way’ singalong was absolutely priceless! I had a blast. I hope they did too.

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    lizardlizard81 | 6 August 2006 at 2:20 am #

    -veleska1970 said…

    but IF you do decide to klunk some mother-effer chatterer over the head, just don’t use that precious guitar, ok? use the mic stand or something.

    lotza love….

    – Oh, wow. Wouldn’t that be the most awfuly irony? Number-one-bright-shiny-supermegastardom when Steve becomes the OJ Simpson of the rock world when he suddenly loses it and clubs some chatty bastard to death during a show.

    Goodness forbid!


  64. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 2:21 am #


    sorry about your rough time in Florida I hate it here myself but Im kinda stuck right now. I like the midwest better. Lived in Iowa it was peaceful lots of nature but the work was tough. Beautiful rivers and trout streams eagles and and more… Seems FLorida has too many different types of people and no history or culture. Only good place here is St Augustine think its the oldest city in America low key check it out if you get the chance… Ive gotten married their twice lol…. Gotta stay away for a while. Take care Glad you came to this god forsaken place your show was appreciated here.

    steve in Florida

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    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 2:46 am #

    Am I the only one getting nervous about their respective upcoming gig? Being a musician myself – and a live music addict, I know how rude crowds can be. I recently saw Tim Easton in a club and was about to bash someone myself. For some reason people don’t realize how much a part of a show THEY are and how much affect they can have on a performance. Positive or negative. Anyway, I hope the folks in Cinci are respectful. At least the venue is a beautiful old theater. Can’t wait… but nervous. I hope the positive vibes are flowing.

    I saw Roy Harper in ’98 at Shank Hall in Milwaukee. Tiny but extremely attentive crowd. We had just seen him in Chicago with a large/noisy crowd the previous night. Guess which show was magic?

    Drew in Cbus

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    verdelay | 6 August 2006 at 3:38 am #


    I’d like to offer some kind words to make yer smile, but I don’t know you, so I can’t write with any assurance.

    America: this too will pass.

    Hard to achieve satori-like critical distance when you’re strapped to a motor going a hundred clicks down a concrete tube at a hundred degrees. More like meat in the guts of a behemoth.

    My two years in Houston were a mixture of joy at the little things and despair at the big things. Well, I’m sure you know Mary Kay better than I, so enough of my small consolations.

    Remember: For every thoughtless yakker there’s a thoughtful individual who sees something familiar in the wonders you lads strive to describe, who recognises a fragment of their own divine selves in your words and work and wonders how on earth it is possible for different lives and perspectives to intersect in such a remarkable way.

    Hope that’s enough to get you up in the morning.

  67. avatar
    Rama Dee | 6 August 2006 at 4:14 am #

    thats a pretty funny comment, the oj thing…ha ha …i hadda laugh imagining him driving a white bronco, helicopters above, typing his bloggey….

  68. avatar
    isolde | 6 August 2006 at 4:15 am #

    now this story is interesting from the australian 4 august called
    one from the heart or spleen
    about actors using dreamwork to tap into the unconscious in this case for the tempest,20867,20009551-16947,00.html

  69. avatar
    lyricoftheday | 6 August 2006 at 4:15 am #

    Your children cannot hear you.
    They only want your loot.
    You hold on to thier essence like a parachute.
    They never believed you were in distress.
    Now you’ve gone a left them with tristesse.

    Fits? yes? no?

  70. avatar
    Gareth,Notts | 6 August 2006 at 4:25 am #

    anonymous 4.14 MWP is a FUCKIN GENIUS,you are a mere fuckwit and your mouth is a sphincter spewing fucking ball-less drip! take your shit elsewhere.

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    galamor the wizard | 6 August 2006 at 4:45 am #

    My commiserations at the crowd talking loudly throughout the gig Steve. I was embarrassed by the crowds talking at Bulli when Marty played with the Mood Maidens earlier in the year. Having said that though, I think small crowds seem be full of more of those that are “just after a night out” than the music. I can’t imagine your finances, but maybe you should pull the pin on on places that don’t sell above a certain percentage. I have got to say, too, that telling the crowd to “fuck off” and the like – descending to their level, only gets everyones back up. Maybe you should work out a few routines for those awful crowds that won’t shut up – something like the Luka Bloom comment earlier. Either that or turn up the volume and/or blow jazz smoke a la Brian Wilsons Wife at the crowd!

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    sue cee | 6 August 2006 at 5:04 am #

    Stage a sit-in until they be quiet! Swap the music for silence…maybe you’ve tried that before? These people, even when drunk or just plain excitable, prob like being the centre of attention. Maybe you could ask them to come up on stage and join you. Or shout ‘free beer next door’ 🙂

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    damien | 6 August 2006 at 5:35 am #

    I think it’s time The Crunch dropped this acoustic wankery and got back to being a rock band which, by definition, means playing LOUD! That way you won’t have to compete with chattering drunks. Can’t you just wear ear plugs to protect what’s left of your ‘earing, Nevets?

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    jeanz | 6 August 2006 at 6:56 am #

    I think its pretty obvious that these venues are letting their regulars in for free . A pathetic Church fan would shout out loud for the odd request but not talk through the whole gig. It doesn’t make sense.
    It happens with all bands playing in an accoustic format as well. I saw Sophia a few years back.They were playing in a similar vein as The Church are now. A strong 500 audience but somehow the people at the back (the last 100)seemed like they were at some wedding reception. They talked their way thru the whole gig. Sophia at the time weren’t washed up or anything, to the contrary there was a real buzz about them in Brussels at the time.
    You never know, I saw Perry Blake in the same city. Just his voice and an acoutic guitar. Now I adore Perry but he was dead boring on the night. What do you know….you didn’t hear a whisper all night.

    Steve I’m sorry to hear this stuff. You and the band deserve so much better. I’m still optimistic something really good will happen to you guys though.

  75. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 7:17 am #


    keep doing it for the ones who believe. they’re the only ones that have a brain.

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    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 7:32 am #

    Alas, sorry to hear about the terribly rude fans there in Florida. If anybody in the crowd should be loud or rude near me at the Milwaukee gig, I’ll shut them up right quick! It’s been many years of waiting to have the chance to see you fine gents perform live. Respect from your audience is what you should always have…you’ll surely be getting that from me.

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    daniel | 6 August 2006 at 7:56 am #

    slip inside the music, mate–slip inside the fleeting yet pervasive little things that come about in the company of old friends and new… things that bring smiles to the lips of seasoned but luminescent beings like you on any road or in any corner of the fickle, oppressive world–shine on…

  78. avatar
    lee | 6 August 2006 at 8:21 am #

    will have that lou christie song in my head all night now .

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    (('{~_~}')) | 6 August 2006 at 8:27 am #

    What a bloody nightmare! I don’t know how you all keep going? I couldn’t. Hope things get better.

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    eek | 6 August 2006 at 9:15 am #

    Wow. The yappers in Jacksonville might make the folks here seem positively sophisticated. I can hope anyway.

    I wish I could make touring less tedious and grueling, or at least make the dumb shits shut the fuck up at gigs, but I can do neither. I do promise however to be quiet and appreciative at the shows I will see. I’m so delighted you are touring here I don’t want to miss a second of the shows.

    Thanks for putting up with all the crap.

  81. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 9:26 am #

    Here is your horoscope from today’s paper…

    “A touchy temper isn’t one of your hallmarks but anyone who crosses you this week will know it. You’re impatient to get ahead and those standing in your way are reminded with short, sharp words. Energy hums through you and you seem almost too hot to touch. Work your passions out in a positive way with success at work, a personal best at the gym or an evening out.”

    So you see….it’s the planets, man!!



    P.S. I know I’m supposed to have a blue moniker now but I can’t remember my password to log in….easy come…easy go.

  82. avatar
    Malika | 6 August 2006 at 9:29 am #

    Dear SK, PK, MWP & TP,

    Yes, these things happen…
    Some people must have been disappointed
    Not to have seen you.
    Bon courage anyway,
    12 dates left…

    And, as usual,
    All my love,


  83. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 10:12 am #

    Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta. Where the tour gets back on track. We love you and we are waiting.

  84. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 10:19 am #

    SK – “the best artists make you feel like you’re in on an inside joke.” You’re the best. Your band is over the top. Stay there.

  85. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 10:48 am #

    Oh, I feel for you sk, but god I hope you don’t mean it when you say you want to give up…please NO!!!
    Remember that 80’s Chaka Khan song…”I feel (sorry) for you….I think I love you….”

    ahug and akiss,
    Diamanda P

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    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 11:45 am #

    You guys really need to fire your booking agent.

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    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 11:54 am #


    I am listening to tum off of emd (although i do have osah) and I think it’s about time you came back to noosa for a gig,now that i know i have permission to ‘discourage’ talkers.

    the other Rusty p

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    Renee | 6 August 2006 at 12:30 pm #

    Ah Steve 🙁
    it breaks my fucking heart to read what you guys are going thru
    you shouldn’t have to be dealing with this kind of bullshit after 25 years of making great music,
    I’d almost have to agree with anon 9:45, who booked this tour?

    the same day you posted nice, I posted a comment on the previous days blogg, I don’t think you saw it so I’ll say it again,
    in Baltimore we have the Meyerhoff Symphony Hall
    and often they will have contemporary artists perform there
    I know elvis costello, sara mclachlan,and others have played there (i just can’t remember who else at the moment)I saw Johnny Mathis there (yea, I like fucking Johnny Mathis!)and he was magnificent, what a voice!
    anyhow, I could certainly see you guys performing at a place like that, the acoustics are perfect, they have refreshments outside the auditorium and only during intermission
    and you can hear a pin drop during the performance AND tickets cost about the same (but I would gladly pay a $100 to see you)
    a group of your caliber deserve to be treated with class and respect,
    in a venue where some of the greatest classical works have been performed as well as some of the best modern musical artists,
    you are certainly worthy of being called a great musical artiste!
    (something to consider, if there is a next time around!)

  89. avatar
    jj | 6 August 2006 at 1:25 pm #

    The show in Jax – felt like i was at a keg party in someone’s garage. Don’t know who booked the Church into that place but what a mistake. Felt really bad for Rob Dickinson – seemed like everyone was talking even up by the stage. It was difficult to enjoy the show. Left right after Day 5 as the band members looked like they had enough- suprised to read that that they came out for an encore.

    Orlando – 1st time at the HOB and 1st time seeing the Church. Excellent performance…yes the crowd was rather quiet, but the music was great. suprised at how loud it was being “acoustic”. Pure Chance – what an awesome track – sounded great live – caught me by suprise – Two other songs that really made the show for me -The Grind, and Two Places at Once – they really nailed it. The encore with invisible was awesome as well

    I’ll remember the Orlando show. Won’t go back to that hole in the wall in Jax. Just a note to those bashing FLA, their are folks down here that appreciate good music and outstanding artists like the Church.

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    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 1:45 pm #

    Before everyone rags on Florida too much I must say that the St. Pete show went pretty well from my point of view. Steve didn’t mention it on here because he was too busy responding to all of the jerks giving him a hard time for complaining a little. The crowd was pretty quite and no one in the band complained or asked the crowd to quite down. They also played the second encore of Constant in Opal. So everyone should not assume that Florida was a complete disaster. I think the band would acknowledge that St. Pete was a good show. We are not all rednecks down here and I would appreciate it if some of you would back off.


  91. avatar
    tex | 6 August 2006 at 1:51 pm #

    Onya Kilbey – haven’t enjoyed a spleen-venting like that one for a long time.

    Just finished reading James Freud’s account (I am the Voice left from Drinking) of the Oz rock scene in our era – worth a look, even if, like me, you were never a big fan.

    Hope the tour gets better. Reminds me of the time I had to drive 400 ks from Leinster (Western Australia) to Kalgoorlie in a van with no windscreen, towing another one with no functioning engine, after playing til 5am at the wet mess of a mining camp to 200 blokes and a handful of sheilas. Ahh, the rock’n’roll life!



    ps This is a reprise of my response to ‘nice’ blog – got lost in the time zone.

  92. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 2:11 pm #

    Waiting on the SK review of MB…

    I understand that the three man undertaking w/o MWP was sheer genius.

    How is MWP this AM?

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    The Edge of Time | 6 August 2006 at 2:17 pm #

    The Jazz version of Reptile…

    again I say genius.

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    Anonymous | 6 August 2006 at 6:23 pm #

    I remember your comments in dallas and houston about talking during your shows and everyone cheered after that little speech, and i thought, right on SK!
    It is really rude for the audience to do that. I think someone should get up on stage before the show and tell the audience to be quiet during the musical part of the show… just a idea… maybe theyll listen to the venue owner or the band manager. I dont know… i wish i had the answer though. I really do.
    In dallas and houston, i listened to every note, every word.
    I was mesmerized, i was tantalized.
    Love you guys!
    Galveston TX

  95. avatar
    PAGEY | 6 August 2006 at 8:15 pm #

    You make music for the Gods Steve. Keep on keepin on. Remember you must play for all walking through the valley of death.

  96. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 August 2006 at 3:13 pm #

    If you are looking to play in intimate, acoustic show fit for a theater, why not book a proper setting? The Jacksonville show was poorly promoted and should have never been booked at that location. There were better options to play in NE Florida.

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    Anonymous | 7 August 2006 at 6:13 pm #

    Ah SK, some of us ARE listening, and listening keenly. I’d humbly suggest when faced with a gig like this, to play for those of us who are listening, even if we aren’t physically there in front of you. You guys are transmitting way past any local rudeness.

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    Anonymous | 7 August 2006 at 8:18 pm #

    Things would have been better if the band didn’t curse and scowl at people who were enjoying themselves and the music. I won’t come to the defense of the crowd, but they needn’t be the slaves that the mindless “fans” must be.

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    mattdavison | 8 August 2006 at 4:42 am #

    That makes me f-in depressed.. Without sounding indignatious.. Marty seemed right to do what he did. Fucckers… Now I am pissed..
    But ya gotta move on. See its not just NZ in the 80s with crap audiences…If thats what ya call em.

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    churchfan | 14 August 2006 at 8:17 pm #

    Steve, I’m glad to hear that the tour is going so well. I’d also like to apologize on behalf of all the people who refused to stop chattering away at the Jacksonville show. How inconsiderate to both the band and the fans who were actually there to hear you. I drove from Pensacola (where After Everything album cover photo was shot, by the way), and was appalled at the conduct of some of the audience members. Not only were these people disrespectful to the band, but also to the fans like myself who drove several hours to see you. I would also like to say that you guys are true gentlemen. Despite the rudeness you endured, the band still did the encores, which was appreciated by us fans. I assumed there would be no encores, and no one could have blamed you for that. Yet, you guys soldiered on for us, and for that I say thank you. Despite a bad night (the crowd that is; the band was excellent!), you were very pleasant, signed my poster, and thanked me too. I hope the experience will not scare the band off from returning to Florida. There are many, many of us down here who love The Church, and cannot wait for you to return. Thanks again so very much….
    James, Pensacola

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