posted on April 29, 2007 at 4:46 pm

i love you guys
thanks for your warm n heartfelt encouragements
i appreciate yer kind words
n i feel like a fool (again)
and mr van go has some good points
about being happy to play to anyone at all
as a solo artist i am
put me anywhere
and i’ll play
but the church has overheads
we got car rentals
equipment rentals
weve got a small crew to pay
weve got flights n fuel n taxis n tax
weve got hotels n strings n repairs
etc etc etc
it dont run on pure love
unfortunately the logistics of this tour
mean it dont work when we only have small crowds
despite all the goodwill in the world
can ya see that?
it isnt only vanity that makes me crave a slightly larger crowd
i mean i dont wanna be at the enormo dome
but we need around a cuppla hundred just to make ends meet
or we can shrink down
jettison more things
we can all sleep in one hotel room
hell maybe let one of the guitarists go
only have 2 drums on stage
or ya can say
we lasted 27 years
we toured n we toured n we toured
we did it
no one lasts forever
maybe it really is time to not tour
and its all very well playing the “big” cities in uk
but who wanted us?
who was prepared to fork out our guarantee
that we need to not bring down financial ruin
the promoter in hamburg summed it up
“the old people dont come to gigs
the young ones want something new
i couldnt afford to put posters up
because it wouldve cost more than you wouldve made
theres no interest in radio or media
you got no record company anymore
i’d put you on again because i like you…”
we cant afford a manager
his cut is our meagre prophet margin
we need one of 4 things
1 a big new act aknowledging as as major influence
2 a big new movie or commercial featuring church song
hopefully not you know what
3 someone covering a song of ours and having a big hit
4 a complete revolution in mass consciousness
as for america
we do slightly better there
but only slightly
only just scraping thru there
hey we’re old
ian hunter said you gotta be a young man you can never grow old
im 5 fuckin 3
yeah yeah i look ok
we all do
but the kids aint interested in 50 year olds n i dont blame em
yet we dont make oldies music
we still have edge n grit n darkness
and most people my age aint interested in that
we are an anomaly
we fall thru the cracks
we are neither one thing or another
we have been made redundant by grunge n britpop n hip hop
n emo n whoever the hell else is up the hit parade tonite
yet we still remain aesthetically superior to these things
the press dont wanna write about us…why would they?
we aint huge like the eagles or depeachy mode
we aint legendary like nick cave
we aint loverly pop like crowded house
we aint populist n sweeping like u2
we’re just the church
our biggest n only hit 20 years ago
twenny years…?
are you kiddin me mister…?
and i wonder why we have fifty in hengelo
which by the way
is a lovely town
the venue was nice
the staff were helpful
and the 49 other people were v. nice
i still rate the dutch as the truly coolest people on earth
except for the occaisional dickweed
by the way
when we did play the hit
marty says that particular idiots dancing to it
made him wanna give up n go n get a real job
im lucky i missed that i guess
i dont resent hengelo
it was a fill in gig
between hamburg n brighton
i just reckon ive done my time on the frontline
i used to get real excited at the thought
of blasting some dark little dive
full of rocknroll
when i was 19…
but now…..
and i dont see the cities i go to
i see a venue n a hotel
i dont get to see many statues n museums
thats why my blogg aint full of culture…
i see the road
and somedays its lovely
a few fellas in a van
the wide open road
a cd pumping
a bit of a laugh or argument
i’d miss it
miss the camaraderie for sure
but a lot of it is just a numb bum n aching legs
wishing them fucking miles n kilometres away
being nervous at hurtling along in a fragile little body
being tired n lonely n mean n selfish n all the rest
having to be nice
(and i try lord i try)
losing things
breaking things
temper temper olde bean
all the anger n vanity is ill becoming an olde gent such as yerself
go on try n be all things to all people
go on n rock like the son of satan
then come off n be polite while you sign a cd
then be sympathetic when the promoter tells ya
how much dough he lost on ya
n the roadies complain that theyre not getting enuff
to do all the work (and theyre right!)
and yer running as hard as ya can
to stay in the same place
and i miss my fambley
so much
i just missed 3 weeks of the bumpers life…
but look
i aint complaining
i feel comfortable with ya
n im pooring out my heart
im crying on yer soldiers
you know me
i’ll be better tomorrow
and hey
im alive
n im (relatively) healthy
n i do get to play n travel
i aint whingeing to you fiendss
im just telling it how it is…
brighten was great
not amazing
but great
boydie says after
wow killer…the english just get it, dont they?
course they do…
a great audience
lifted my spirits
love reign o’er me
a day off
a swim in sea but too cold even (embarrassingly) for me
wait till that waters up around yer dick said boydie as he immersed in it
it felt like my family jewels were in the grip
of a powerful red hot vice
and i panicked
n got the fuck outta that dirty sea
(it is scummy…you dirty poms)
and the beach is rocks not sand
(fiendss…it aint like bondi)
brighton is full of mutton dressed as lamb
jaguars n prams n weird modern kids
who i dont understand at all
its sleazy expensive n slightly run down
my hotel is rated 4 star
but in most places it would struggle to get 2
everythings a bit worn out n busted
n shoddy
the desk clerk
some olde campy gent said
if ya dont like it
we provide complaint forms
they are on rolls in your bathrooms
ha ha ha!
outside my window the brown atlantic
across that ocean my darling fambley n missus in dela where?
the “balcony” is a tragic carpet of pigeon droppings n ciggie butts
a single bed….puh lease
no room to do yoga
i have to make do
but hey
im not a pig on the way to a slaughterhouse
its alright being me
i just had such high hopes…..
never mind olde rockah
ya got further than most
you did ok
maybe it is time for a revolution in mass consciousness
whats the time again?
sk brighton april 2007

159 Responses to “my dearest fiendss….”

  1. avatar
    kat | 29 April 2007 at 6:18 pm #


    you are legendary! just way underrated. i feel this way about myself too on a much different level. rock it out for now.. you’ll be home soon ;]

    xo we luv you all!

  2. avatar
    Daberhasher | 29 April 2007 at 6:19 pm #

    “maybe it is time for a revolution in mass consciousness
    whats the time again?”

    um, about fuckin’ time…
    high time…
    no time like the present…

    but sadly, it ain’t that time yet…
    too many idiots slurpin’ crap through a straw, running on empty and not caring about… anything it seems…

    go home olde bean, you dunnit all and then some… your best stuff always comes from the heart, but now HOME is where the heart is…
    and your wifey, doodles-n-bumper, paints, pool, pot, et al… all da tings that make your world go round… we should all understand and accept that… but i’ll still hope for the “one of four things”!
    you deserve a leisurely, well financed and well attended world tour… just don’t get huge in Malaysia or Indonesia, they’ll kill you for the jazz in those places!!!

    best on the London gig and better than best on seeing your fambley again!


  3. avatar
    verdelay | 29 April 2007 at 6:44 pm #

    Oh, my dear Illyrian…

    ..when I’m knocking out my humble little songs and my little records and reels to give away to a meagre audience of family and friends and (inexblicably) occassionally even some people I’ve never even met…I think about “what could have been” ..

    if I’d made the effort
    if I’d met the right people
    if I had any self-belief
    if I had the looks
    if I had the voice
    if I had dancing fingers
    if I’d been in the right place
    if I’d been in the right time
    if I had the zeitgeist by the fucking balls
    if I had no need to work for a crust
    if I was prepared to compromise
    if I was prepared to defer to others in matters of aesthetics
    if this
    if that
    if the other

    I think about all of these unfulfilled posibilities, the untapped potentialities, the unbreathed air.

    And it fills me with despair.

    But it’s the music I make that makes me smile
    It’s the little tropes I contrive that make me giggle wryly to myself in quiet moments
    It’s the grandiose vision I am constructing that gives me purpose
    It is the prententious fact of Art that makes me feel a touch of self-worth in the face of unfeeling indifference.

    And at least I’ve got the songs. Such beautiful songs. I’m so thankful for them…to have heeded the call, to have deciphered the whispers.

    And I am grateful for the little crumbs that are mine and mine alone to share.

    When you’re climbing the ladder, eventually you’ll make it to the very top rung. And you know what you’ll find there?

    The very bottom of another fucking ladder you never even knew was there, that’s what. And so it goes.

    There is no ‘top’
    There is no ‘success’
    There is no ‘point’… as such.

    You can stop climbing if you want to. Turn away from it all and go flat for a change. But you don’t, because there’s this little feeling you get each time you resolve to keep going.

    It’s called Eternity.


  4. avatar
    Fando | 29 April 2007 at 7:02 pm #

    I’ve seen your band 5 times now, and these 5 times are landmarks in my life. You left Europe in 1990, I got to know you in 1990, and you returned 8 years later, so I was actually waiting 8 years (no, the 2 piece shows weren’t advertised in germany), and when you 4 finally stepped up in a small Berlin place in 1998, and when PK played the first chords of Aura, and TP joined in with a big tom thunder, and MWP added his screechy, scary little sonic razors and the bass was vibrating in what you call family jewels, and when it all came together…and when you played Anaesthesia for the last time AFAIK and Tim added the background vocals, I knew that I do not only love that band, I knew that wherever these 4 people play together, they’re not only playing on a loada strings and drums, but they’re playing immediately on my nerval system, opening up places and spaces I wouldn’t have guessed to be existing in my head. The moment when sound becomes something substantional, something you can take in your hands, or rather – something that takes you in its hands and throws you into worlds that exist only in your mind. When guitars stop being guitars and morph into bliss. And the best thing was that the music showed me what the mind is capable of. And if I shouldnt ever see the Church again…this has been the only music that ever had a personal impact on my life beyond entertainment. See, I love music, and I know a lot of that stuff, but nothing is really connected with my brain—
    And now I’ve watched 2 concerts, and you’ve never played better..
    God, this all won’t pay your ticket to Australia…


  5. avatar
    gareth,notts | 29 April 2007 at 7:02 pm #

    hope londons better than the rest and u get to see the family soon!

  6. avatar
    gareth,notts | 29 April 2007 at 7:07 pm #

    p.s. God forbid,but if this is your last tour surely u have to play Aura and,of course Providence for Grant,do i have to beg??

  7. avatar
    Anonymous | 29 April 2007 at 7:11 pm #

    can anyone tell me….

    i just went on the carling academy site to get a ticket and see that the start time is 7pm. surely not. does anyone have a clue what time the church would actually be onstage. is there a support beforehand etc.



  8. avatar
    veleska1970 | 29 April 2007 at 7:22 pm #

    you are absolutely correct about the grim financial situation. i’m sure most of us fiendss have been aware of it for sometime. yes, it does take an enormous of moolah to put a show on, PLUS you have to eat, too, and do laundry (that’s included in the “etc etc etc”) plus the emotional, physical, psychological toll all this takes on a person. damn, steve, i don’t know how you do it. i’m 16 years your junior, and just THINKING about all you do wears me out, and you are actually DOING all that. you and the rest of the crunchies. and, like i mentioned the other day, it’s shameful that you don’t even get to see any of the places you go to because 99.9% of your time is spent in a vehicle or in a hotel room or inside the venue because you’re on such a tight, rigid time schedule that one minute lost might as well be a whole day. yeah, you’ve been all over the world, but it’s like you’ve done it from inside a bubble. 🙁

    like everyone else, i would absolutely hate to see you stop; but then on the other hand, at what point does one say “i just can’t do this anymore.” it’s not an admission of defeat or surrender, it’s being realistic. it’s looking at the overall picture. it’s carefully weighing the pros and cons before making a very difficult decision. (before anybody bashes me for saying all this, i’m NOT encouraging the church to quit touring. not at all. i’m just saying i totally and completely understand steve’s situation and what he is saying.)

    i do wish i was in a position to help you guys out~~i’d do all the roadie work, drive the car, go fetch the food, or heck, even manage you, without expecting payment of any kind or asking for anything in return at all, and all that just because i love and adore you guys so much. i would do whatever it took to help, without hesitation, even pulling money out of my own pocket to give to any pissy promoters who may gripe about their, uh, loss of profit~~like “oh, you didn’t make enough money from the concert?? well, here~~take this and shut up!!” while throwing a few thousand in their faces.

    but unfortunately i’m not in that position.

    “we are an anomaly
    we fall thru the cracks
    we are neither one thing or another
    we have been made redundant by grunge n britpop n hip hop
    n emo n whoever the hell else is up the hit parade tonite
    yet we still remain aesthetically superior to these things”
    steve, i don’t think that, in the last year and a half of your blog, you have written a more powerful entry then these few lines. these put tears in my eyes. i will go to my grave never understanding why this is. there are just no words to describe the unfairness and injustice of it.”maybe it is time for a revolution in mass consciousness”~~yes, it is.

    please know that if you do decide to stop touring, or even **gasp** stop recording, i will be forever grateful to you guys for enriching my life like y’all have for the past 22 years. my universe has been a better place because of y’all. 🙂

    have a good show in london. andyL will be there~~please tell him hi for me.

    lotza love……

  9. avatar
    Inge | 29 April 2007 at 7:22 pm #

    If you ever should decide to tour Europe again (and by god I hope you do)… I will personally pay out of my own pocket for any posters to be printed and I’ll take a week off work to put them up all around Holland single-handedly. Alright?
    Someone said it before in this blog: you’ve got friends all over the place, let us help you! Any way we can. You won’t have to pay promoters to do it, you have thousands of free promoters here! USE US.

  10. avatar
    Anonymous | 29 April 2007 at 7:33 pm #

    Hey Steve,

    Warm wishes from a seasonally and globally warming Canada.

    I hear ya on the age thing. Each passing year places another straw on this camel’s back.

    But it’s a strange, wonderfully surprising thing, aging. Some things get harder, some things get worse. But some things do get easier and better in ways the young can’t understand.

    When Sigur Ros made it a few years back, it proved to me that there IS a market for thoughtful, lovely, profoundly uncommercial music out there. I remember thinking – “Damn, if the Church just had the right organizational oomph behind them… Make a killer video for Radience… This band IS relevant – it’s just that no one knows it!”

    Wasn’t to be, of course. But recent releases have only reinforced by belief that the Church really still does have ‘it’. Beside Yourself and in particular, the phenomenal Back With Two Beasts provide all the proof required.

    That Beasts wasn’t given a wide release suggests that the band may not consider it the manifesto I wish it was. But, oh!, I have to believe that the deep, organic songcraft on display all over this album would turn a lot of people on who may otherwise not give the Church a second thought. And in spite of the age of the band, but in part because of it! (Show me a band in their 20s or 30s with the ability to make music like this.)

    Send a copy of the album to Brian Eno. Send one to John Paul Jones. Reach out! No man – or band – is an island. Maybe you never hear back. Maybe they’d love to work with you, but their asking price is too high. But maybe you’ll make a couple new high-placed fans who can make a difference.

    Have a killer show Steve. We’re all rooting for ya!


  11. avatar
    ~ | 29 April 2007 at 7:40 pm #

    time for a revolution
    grrl friends and boy fiends
    a shift in consciousness
    took place thousands of years ago
    the world is overdue for another
    to echo far into the future
    where people talk without speaking
    and laugh about the things that are persecuted now
    jc talked about the worth of sisters, as did that big bellied fat bastard and Alexanders talking trees
    that hedonist…is always smiling about something off colour
    except for when there is talk of how things have become in the world
    and how things will be if
    something doesn’t change
    and soon
    not much time until time shifts
    as always, it is a matter of willing matter and
    what you project upon the material canvas
    if you watch it will come around
    because it travels in circles
    as is the right order of things
    the Chaldeans got it too
    Pythagoras used 10 as the end of the cycle to theirs
    and the 144,000
    not a take your ticket and sit on your hands sorta thing, wait til your name is called
    old names with old numbers, this one re examined tells a story of a choice
    of clay
    a mathematic parable hidden in plain view
    like playing poker with disguised tarot cards
    for coins!
    ya know, of anamolies:
    why in the good green earth
    is the term lift or elevator used
    when these both say
    going up, and these machines go
    down as well
    and, further more
    the silly rental car when the door was open would exclaim it was a jar, when the fact is, it’s a door
    ha ha ha!
    okay, be original ~ we’ve heard that one before
    I saw you smile though, at least for a moment
    and that is good
    as it should be

    peace to ya all,jazz luvas

  12. avatar
    MEM | 29 April 2007 at 7:44 pm #

    ok, this is a little out of character for me, but here goes: (who am i to speak, really, no one will ever know, better than you, what you see, and what you feel, and the reason you do – but look at this: look at it for what it is: and the hand writting reads inevitably on the wall: YOU ARE A PART OF THAT CHANGE IN CONSCIOUSNESS, WHICH YOU SEEK)

    “the glittering moments jangle decades”

    “nosce te ipsum”

    “4.5 consider covering the big hit some else had”

    “all our times have come… here but now they’re gone…”

    “some for fortune, some for greed, some for want, some for need”

    “we can be like they are..”

  13. avatar
    Thomas Irvin | 29 April 2007 at 7:44 pm #

    As the Church inevitably tours less, just promise us one thing: that from time to time, you’ll play a couple of shows that are announced well ahead of time (like six months to a year) so that those of us who can afford to travel can once again commune with the music that just DOES IT in a way that no other music does.

    I grew up in Lincoln, Nebraska, and while we had two fabulous record stores that would stock all the Church & Joy Division & Cure & what-have-you imports, it was tough to convince touring bands to ever come through. So it was commonplace to drive eight hours to Minneapolis or nine hours to Chicago to see a show by New Order or Echo & the Bunnymen or whomever.

    I’ve flown to Los Angeles on three occasions to see a series of Church shows, driven to Minneapolis twice (once for the Church, once for MWP solo), driven to Chicago once to see you guys, and I FLEW TO LONDON to see AAE with MWP in 2000. And I’m by no means a wealthy person–I’m just willing to spend my money on what I love.

    So if in the future we gotta come to Bondi, there are many of us who will do it. But we’ll need time to plan. So you just name a certain week and we’ll make arrangements to be there.

    Because that’s what your music does for us. Remarkable, that.

  14. avatar
    gareth,notts | 29 April 2007 at 8:00 pm #

    why not release Easy in england,get someone from the team to get it to Virgin Radio.That station and its substantial amount of listeners would lap it up and make it a hit…and i’d be prepared to put a good size wager on that !!!

  15. avatar
    ~ | 29 April 2007 at 8:04 pm #

    yes, I remember
    the pain of emerging
    the bliss of opening wings
    cycles circles
    belonging to the whole
    it would be fantastic to hear that played live
    looking forward


  16. avatar
    davem | 29 April 2007 at 8:17 pm #

    I thought you were going to reach for the lard before taking the plunge??!!
    It’s hard to argue with anything you’ve written today. I do appreciate the sacrifices you make to bring your magic our way. Hopefully you’ll feel better when you’re home and you’ll still come back to blighty from time-to-time!!
    Brighton was fantastic, hopefully tomorrow will be even better.
    My 13-year old is coming to see you for the first time. I know he’ll be blown away by the beauty and power that you fill the room with.
    We do get you over here. Hopefully there’ll be 600+ at tomorrows show. You deserve more but that 600 is with zero publicity – pretty much word of mouth amongst the devoted. And boy are we devoted.
    Whatever happens not a day will pass in my life without me listening to your music or reading your words. Your art is the single most important thing in my life after my family. It has been for 25 years.
    Roll on tomorrow – I can’t wait.
    Brighton is the English seaside at it’s worst/best. Crappy hotels, filthy sea, dodgy food (a few nice restaurants though from what I could see) – all ok if you don’t try to take it seriously.
    Love you lots Steve. You know we all do.

    BTW PIP – Heaven Street Seven are support tomorrow. Last night The Chrunch came on at about 8.05? I’d have thought they may be starting a little later tomorrow as we were cleared out last night PDQ for a club night that was following.

    Dave M

  17. avatar
    Anonymous | 29 April 2007 at 8:18 pm #


    You’ve added more (real) art and creativity to the world than perhaps is realized. You said it. You’ve lasted this long. Even if you stopped now, what you have accomplished is more than most out there have. You stayed true to your art and fans. What more could one want. Money? Whether it is in your music, art or poetry don’t remove your creativity totally from the world.


  18. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 29 April 2007 at 8:36 pm #

    Commencing with Priest=Aura The Church have released several CDs of music that are akin to a fantastic hybrid of Pink Floyd, Radiohead and U2. It’s innate for the Church to compose elaborate and poignant music. Starfish is not even close to being one of their best Cds but it’s the one that gets all the commercial accolades. If a sophisticated and enlightened band cannout connect with an intellectually challended and unenlightened music industry that brainwashes fans to listen to rap and AC DC,why bother with the touring. Guitar God Jeff Beck knows the story. In the mid 1970s he made a few million from his Blow By Blow and Wired CDs. But his best CDs were recorded in 1999, 2001 and 2003 and nobody purchased them. Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, David Gilmour, Slash and Brian May all state that Jeff Beck is the best. He is but he only stays in business because of Blow By Blow and Wired. As for releasing records, I hope Steve and The Church continue to do so. The music is always top-notch evidenced by Uninvited Like The Clouds.

  19. avatar
    Tim | 29 April 2007 at 8:40 pm #

    I don’t believe it when you say radio doesn’t want you. How many AAA (triple A) stations have a copy of your lastest disc? This “format” was made for the Church…Adult Album Alternative. No, these stations are never #1 in their respective markets, they are eclectic, they are esoterical, they are a niche format, and you’ll never get rich on em, but damn, if I was promoting your records (and I’d do it just for the love of it) I’d make sure every AAA station had every new release….and the back catelogue too…June or Telepah would fit like a glove at AAA. This comes from a guy who’s worked at over 10 radio stations in 20 years so I do know a little about the biz. And today ya don’t need a huge distribution deal. When I hear someone has a new disc out, the first place I go is the internet…
    You don’t have to sell out…but never sell yourself short.



  20. avatar
    EARTHFRIEND | 29 April 2007 at 8:45 pm #

    maybe it’s time for me Generation X Mass Consciousness to revel in me crazy/beauitful dreams for all me world to see…
    Ne iko

  21. avatar
    public savant | 29 April 2007 at 8:45 pm #

    Yes, now that’s why i read this every day, without fail.

  22. avatar
    fantasticandy | 29 April 2007 at 8:48 pm #

    dear steve,
    whatever happens next,
    i thank god for sparing me and allowing me to get to that gig
    i don’t think there’s a more honest,more creative,more downright affecting,even life altering bunch of musicians anywhere in this world.
    your work totally defies catagorisation. it has a timeless,altruistic beauty that will endure forever.
    you have never taken any payment from me for all your efforts, i feel i have done no more than helped with your expenses a little.
    you have been my dearest friends for many,many,years now through the
    inspiring,wonderfull music you have given to me on a regular basis.
    if this is the last time i get to see you guys,so be it.
    i will love and respect you all as
    remarkable human beings until the end of my days.
    your friend,
    andy L.

  23. avatar
    nosce te ipsum | 29 April 2007 at 8:58 pm #

    all our times have come,
    here but now they’re gone,
    we can be like they are…
    seasons don’t fear the reaper,
    nor do the wind, the sun or the rain…

    we can be like they are…

    valentine is done,
    here but now they’re gone,
    romeo and juliet are together in eternity…
    40,000 men and women everyday…
    like Romeo and Juliet,
    redefine happiness

    we can be like they are…

    love of two is one,
    here but now they’re gone,
    came the last night of sadness,
    it was clear she couldn’t go on…
    then the door was open and the wind appeared,

    the candles blew then disappeared,
    the curtains flew then he appeared…

    saying don’t be afraid,
    Come on, baby…
    and she had no fear,
    and she ran to him…
    then they started to fly,

    we can be like they are…

    they looked backward
    and said goodbye…
    she had become like they are,
    she had taken his hand
    she had become like they are,

    come on, baby
    we can be like they are,
    don’t fear the reaper
    baby, take my hand
    we’ll be able to fly…

    we can be like they are…

    baby, i’m your man

  24. avatar
    Anonymous | 29 April 2007 at 8:59 pm #

    thanks Dave M – its going to be a last minute rush if i can make it but by the many arms of vishnu i intend to try


  25. avatar
    nickfiction | 29 April 2007 at 9:09 pm #

    I have seen ya 6 times , I guess that’ll do. And maybe that fellow who i noticed videotaping the last 3 times will someday RELEASE some of that footage. Then we can just sit at home and enjoy the Church in HD. I liked the acoustic tour, however when i flew to california from cleveland I had no idea it was an acoustic tour. I sure would like to see ya electric one last time…….. NF

  26. avatar
    Anonymous | 29 April 2007 at 10:31 pm #

    well….do ya want some girly to do an album of jazzy,bluesy,torchlight covers of obscure oz pub rock?………I got a good gimmick and nice tits……ha ha……..and yes……i can make people cry as well as beam……..can holler and squawk ..pretty well ,as well… genx……..back in the land o the living xxxxx

  27. avatar
    the dean | 29 April 2007 at 10:38 pm #

    Do you really need to tour to promote a new record? Does it sell substantially more?

    The music, the music, that sublime combination of 4 minds, there is more.

    The complete revolution in mass consciousness starts here.

  28. avatar
    X | 29 April 2007 at 10:53 pm #

    and she had no fear
    as she started to fly
    with him close by
    they had become
    like they are
    she had taken his hand

  29. avatar
    its ok..... | 29 April 2007 at 10:54 pm #

    we love ya anyway!

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 29 April 2007 at 11:05 pm #

    The day you guys give up is the day i loose all hope in music. Dont give up you guys! Your the last musical genious(es).
    Galveston TX
    PS- See you in september?

  31. avatar
    Richard | 29 April 2007 at 11:09 pm #

    How about this?

    Like Thomas Irvin said above, give us plenty of warning of when and where you’re playing and WE’LL DO THE TOURING.

    I have in mind a Church festival. No support bands, just you four playing two or three (or four!) different sets over a long weekend in a modest venue somewhere nice.

    With enough lead in time I reckon there’d no trouble getting the numbers to make it worthwhile. I get the impression there a dozens of fiends here who could easily muster up up hundreds of takers.

    Hell, it might even be good publicity if a bunch of old spacerockers is able to throw its own version of a Trekkies convention!

  32. avatar
    ~ | 29 April 2007 at 11:27 pm #

    change in consciousness
    of masses
    you get the presents you ask for
    at the end of every year
    mem ories
    like old stories
    of the brothers grimm
    not pretty
    unlike say, a girl in a red light and a blue dress
    singing new old songs
    in the golden glow
    with a voice that is dark like tinted glass
    many of the recollections take place in ugly places such as huge shopping mauls, er, malls
    and they remind me of mandrake roots discarded violently
    the pleasant ones
    they take place in the desert
    near fresh water
    surrounded by mountains
    a retreat from the dark shapes
    that hover in the sky
    some choose to see them, some choose to ignore
    marching marching marching
    hundreds of years in the making
    the number that is said to bring the end
    also of a choice
    heaven or hell is co created
    each second


  33. avatar
    Symon | 30 April 2007 at 12:13 am #

    SK nice to see you gain some peace as you reflected upon your grief and anger from the last blogge.

    I really do feel that you were just reflecting a sense of grieving over the loss of something precious that is slowly (and maybe forever) slipping away.

    For staying true to who you are and for never selling out like so many others…you deserve so many fucking kudos…and a few $$$ and lots of support from the people who really care about your muse.

    Who knows what the future holds ??

    but I will say one thing …go out and make the future happen….don’t just sit there watching it unfold around you.

    Whether it’s in Bondi..Melby..the US or Europe. Make things happen because you’re tooooo fucking talented and awesome as a musician and wordsmith to ever let someone else make your future for you.

  34. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 12:42 am #

    it would make sense to ask fans to help promote you for tours. whenever u come this way I always pester others to come. and they always enjoy it.

  35. avatar
    don joe | 30 April 2007 at 1:04 am #

    Well, all good things must come to an end… I just hope you don’t loose the desire in life over all and grow from this. It is a point where you could go on to do bigger and better things than touring..would it be logistically possible to web stream your performances with a pay per view on the net across the world?? Overheads would be less and you wouldn’t have to travel n play every other day. I’d pay $50 or more to access it. It would be even more exclusive..and you could have a few select audience members who will sit/stand and STAY QUIET whilst you perform. These could be competition winners or something of that nature. Then you could go to those cities you tour and actually look at them; soak up the culture instead of a bleak hotel womb n endless blackbelt freeways n biways. Just an idea. Use what is around you. One doesn’t have to necessarily stick to tried n sometimes true methods. Un stick yourself from those habits and forge new horizons with the technology that exsists today. I’m sure there’d be people (like myself) willing to help create those things, not only for us but for you and the band. Utilize and delegate so we can all prosper from this. Live performance is part of the collective of an artistic group. The group dies some, and then some more as the avenues of creating are taken away. It’s just a law of this universe. No create = succumb, decay n death. Create + create + create = survive (as long as one is doing things to enhace their survival and those around them!!)
    These are just some ideas that have floated past my awareness since reading the blogs whilst you have been on tour. I think the web stream could be a goer……c what u think and c what happens.
    I’m posting a donation so it should be there when u arrive home…I hope!!

    don joe

  36. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 30 April 2007 at 1:04 am #

    Steve Kilbey emanates from an omnipotent Creator who imbued Steve with a boundlessly insane array of talent. Vocalist, lyricist, bass player, Gilt Trip, Jack Frost, Isidore, Painter, Artist, Writer, Poet, Blogger,innovator and an enlightened, humane vegetarian for over thirty years. You have proven to the Creator that you have tirelesly used your God-given gifts and you will continue to do so. Thom Yorke and Bono had great earthly good luck but they are nothing compared to u. I still wish them well because they do good deeds. As for AC DC-no comment on their noise polution.

  37. avatar
    CouldBeAnyone | 30 April 2007 at 1:06 am #

    Nice chatting today.

    Sorry tours aren’t more lucrative. If you tour the USA and play in North Carolina, I’ll buy your vegan food AND dry your laundry. Laundry is one of my talents. It’s a shame music isn’t. But we can’t all be you.


  38. avatar
    don joe | 30 April 2007 at 1:13 am #

    I also wholeheartedly agree with Fando..NO OTHER BAND has continued to do to my conscience. what you as The Church have done. And I’m so fucking glad you thumbed your nose at convention and took the alternate route to seek the sooth.

    ML, don joe

  39. avatar
    mave | 30 April 2007 at 1:17 am #

    Esskay, godd bless.

    m a v e

  40. avatar
    malcolm arkey | 30 April 2007 at 1:29 am #

    Here’s me tuppence worth…
    (hope i’m not ‘adding to the collection of blind leading blind’)

    1) Was the tour really properly promoted and publicised on the internet for a long time beforehand ?? If it was I don’t remember it…it seemed kind of sudden. You need multiple sites and voices on the net to get your message across and often you need to SHOUT – not whisper. The net is probably the key to the Church’s financial survival into the future in many ways. I don’t think tour posters and that other paraphanalia carry much sway these days anyway in terms of publicity…(??)…it’s an e-generation gap.

    2) Now I know you’re a fit guy but you’re not a wide-eyed teenage band with lust to conquer the world anymore…so perhaps was not your tour schedule a little…ummm…ambitious ? Perhaps fewer gigs, better publicised, with more REST between each one. Hey, you went all the way to Europe you might as well enjoy places like Prague when you go there – if you had enough sleep, rest and mental nutrition between gigs you might actually enjoy every one !

    3) Last resort. I’m sure others will disagree with me here …but if you’ve really had enough of touring I would respect your decision to become a studio band (a la Beatles) or at least, a band that just gigs less frequently and only in your home country. Would this still be financially viable for the Church ?????? It sounds like you’re not making that much from touring anyway.

    4) And to all the rest of us here…you are henceforth instructed to go and recommend the Church to every movie director or producer you have ever met.

    I have not a shadow of a doubt that, not withstanding your current mood and other artist self-doubts you have, that you will continue to pen songs until the fat lady sings. That at least makes me happy.


  41. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 1:34 am #

    Yeah its a bummer.
    You need a gud manager or time to plan some gigs – fucked if I know but there is a market there somwhere thats financially viable.
    I dont know if there was any money in that Pretenders support tour but I thought you guys were well received – even more so if you’d have been 1 up the order & thought you had something to build on.
    Matt Finish ( or one bit thereof) were quite good & very humble even tho the venue was horrible & there were about 35 people there.

    Dutch Pierre

  42. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 1:37 am #

    I’ve heard there are some top-notch hotels and hotel proprietors in lovely Torquay.

    ‘The Gleneagles’ for example.

  43. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 1:41 am #

    so much respect for the four of you. and love of course. play the cities that have supported you. minneapolis, san fran, atlanta etc. we folks will fly, drive, thumb our way there.

    oh, and please don’t stop recording.

    richard mchealthy
    and good wife

  44. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 2:05 am #


    How’s Marty going ??
    I reckon he’s a trooper.

  45. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 2:19 am #

    Everything has a season…it may well be that the concert/touring season for The Church is over. Sad? yes. Inevitable? yes.

    We still love ya though. hugs n kisses

  46. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 2:50 am #

    Mr Kilbey
    It’s up to you and the rest of the boys in choosing where you want to be. If the deal makers want you to sing “Unguarded Moment” the old way for a Countdown Tour; have Siverchair do a cover of “Almost with you” or make you boys wear Paisley for the performances; take the money and do it. As long as you and your familys are breathing air what does it matter? I am not one of the sheep, but the general flock have general expectation > meet these expectations and your futures will have extra dollars, for the familys.


  47. avatar
    J Street | 30 April 2007 at 3:03 am #

    Oh, that’s awful. I’m sorry the Euro electric tour is going this way. The American tour was so much better, at least from a reading-the-blogge perspective.

    There is no accounting for taste anymore. If you did thump-thump hip hop and yelled and cussed and gyrated with chicks in bikinis, then you’d get the dough.

    I suspect no one really knows what to do with the Church from a marketing/promotion/management point of view. It’s like a jewel that can’t be cut properly to fit a ring or a necklace–it’s precious, it’s worth so much and it could really fill the soul of a person who appreciates the jewel, but there isn’t anyone with the chops who can cut it and make it so enough people want to buy it. That’s your entire career, maybe. I wish it weren’t so–but there it is.

    There should be a way with this new medium of the Internet for the four of you to set up in an acoustically-pleasing place and play a blistering two hour set. And then we, the Internet fans, log in, pay twenty bucks US and download the video/audio and that’s the tour, that’s the show, that’s it. Get with someone and find out–make a show, yes, it does lose a lot to be transmitted over tinny connections and whatnot, but if you set up, played, and said, here–you can buy it for x dollars, would it be worth it?

    Who knows. It would be better to see ya in person. Logistically, you’re seeing how hard it is to make that happen. Why can’t this Internet thing compensate for the space time distance cost and hassle? What the hell is it good for if it cannot?

  48. avatar
    JJ | 30 April 2007 at 3:03 am #

    i can understand your frustration, TB, I cannot fathom what’s “popular” these days, and it’s not based on quality – that much I know. The Church has consistently created music that is vital, songs that mattered. You have integrity in spades, never sold out, never manufactured “pop hits” or schmaltzy pablum or throwaways. That’s why I’m still here. Everything remains fresh and vital, interesting, fascinating, compelling -dark, edgy, real, challenging.

    I’m 52 as well, but I still get out and go to gigs, because music matters to me. I can’t imagine life without it – recorded and live performances. I appreciate the effort the band has made to keep it going, keep it on the road for the magic of the live performance – I’d miss it terribly if you retired from touring, though i recognize the financial realities of putting a band with crew on the road across a continent. I made it to Sydney and Melbourne last October, and cherish that trip. Sorry I could not make Europe. But – I’m looking forward to the next U.S. tour, if there is one, and I will remain hopeful that there is. I’ll be at as many shows as I can make.

    Hope a return to Bondi with fambley will be a soothing tonic. Take best of care, and safe travels.


  49. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 3:22 am #

    lol, got a visual of the chicks in bikini’s on stage with them

  50. avatar
    stealthblue | 30 April 2007 at 3:33 am #

    Respects, man, respects…
    As always, always the best…whatever you do.
    Ben V.

    Oh, holy crap, regarding the swim in the sea…I almost busted a nut on that one! FUNNY!

  51. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 3:37 am #

    would something like this work for the Church’s popularity ?

  52. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 3:45 am #

    its true, when touring one never gets to see the cities you visit. its all driving and setting up and waiting and breaking down and sleeping and starting again. all of the fun comes from the people you surround yourself with and the conversations in the vehicles. and it is hard work. enjoyable, but definitely hard work.
    well SK, you know my commitment to the (hopeful) upcoming US tour. You know I enjoy chauffeuring!
    I wouldnt underestimate the use you could make of your extremely devoted fanbase. a little more warning and time given to them, along with some specific instructions as to what someone could do to help would make everything easier and cheaper – I hope all of you consider this as an alternative way of doing things.


  53. avatar
    CSTCoach | 30 April 2007 at 4:03 am #

    “we have been made redundant by grunge n britpop n hip hop”

    I understand what you’re saying killa, but your redundancy is the farthest thing from the truth. I think you’ve never been more relevant. As the blog comments have shown, your work has affected countless lives across the world, and continues to do so. I think its needed now more than ever.

    Sadly, work like that seems never to benefit the artist but only his estate. I think that’s absolute shit, that someone whose work lasts through the ages only becomes recognized once they’re beyond benefitting from it. You guys deserve to benefit NOW.

    I’m with those above who offered support on a north american tour. I will happily take time away from my two professions to drive the van, carry shit, coach you guys in yoga (to keep you going that much longer ;-), whatever is needed. As long as I get into all the gigs of course 😉 I’m quite serious, as I think are the others. Shit, I could spin it into an article or something to justify my absence to my publisher. I think you’d be surprised at the response if a call went out.

    I guess I can’t say any more than what my colleagues / co-travellers have said above. We’re in your corner, killa. For the full distance.


  54. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 4:31 am #

    Steve hang in there

    I remember reading interviews from the 80’s where you said you would loose $ touring Europe. We all want to get paid for our time and effort though and I am sure it is discouraging.

    I think you have had some bad luck with promoters and gigs in the middle of nowhere or at least strange places( how about that Florida tour last summer)…..

    I know its discouraging and the wear and tear on all of you must be tough. Thank you for keeping the faith and putting out some great music and sharing yourself with this blog. I remember finding Sometime Anywhere in a store when it was released and I had no idea it was coming out. I was so thrilled to hear you after a couple years..same thing with Hologram… the net is the future.Thats how I found out you were still around with Hologram…. I know you guys have been banging your head against the wall we apperciate the new records and the tours and will do our best to support you.

    Perhaps more cds from limited and signed put out a cd with 3 or 4 songs on it web only like a mystery recording. I realize this too has a cost but I think you have a loyal base of net support. My signed uninvited cd is very special to me!

    Music is in all of your blood and its awesome and I am sure it becomes a way of life. Take some time off with the family get back home and eventually do what you do best, create, we will be here for you killer…..Best to you all

    Steve in middle of nowhere Florida

  55. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 4:32 am #

    yes reid,

    what a concept you have there !
    if the Church were to give sufficient time and notice and were to humbly accept the services of their loyal fans they could
    – have free accommodation in each city chosen
    – have free can transport and drivers
    – free vegan meals cooked for them

    this would surely reduce the total bill and stress. OK – it’s completely unprofessional and the Church would need to say bye bye to their pride – but does it matter any more ?

    wonder if any other band has ever organised this kind of thing with their fan base before.
    could it be a world first ??
    experimental !
    pioneering !
    interesting !

  56. avatar
    malcolm arkey | 30 April 2007 at 4:58 am #


    Goodness ! – Harry Flowers’ music brought back definite memories of “The Bhagavad Guitars” and John Kilbey’s work therein. (especially songs like their “Maiden Voyage”)

    Keep it up.

  57. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 6:26 am #

    Great comments above. A proper states tour is needed.

    The cities:

    San Diego
    San Francisco
    New York

    You will definitely be loved. Sounds like you need a better tour manager.

    I am here

    -Le Jaw

  58. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 6:34 am #

    It’s been sobering to read your experiences on the road this time.
    I guess I’m being selfish since I live in Australia, but do you guys need to travel to ALL of the places you do, and do you need to travel at all? Why not stick to just the big spots and/or releasing albums? The Beatles gave up touring in 66 and their best work came after that! Do the Church need to “rock ‘n’ roll” anymore? Does the general public want to stand around at late hours getting their ears blasted whilst they have to go and do mundane things like go to work or bring up the kids the very next day? Why couldn’t the Church play earlier, say from 8 to 10, rather than from 9.30 to 11? If this sounds like I’m getting old, I am. And so is everyone! The acoustic albums, seemingly done cheaply and quickly, satisfy the need for “product” from us Church freaks and have picked up, at least here in Australia, positive reviews from your original fanbase and attendantly aged reviewers. Even all of your “home recording albums” like “Unearthed” still sound good, primarily because the songs are so good – couldn’t the Church, especially with the cheap digital technology around today, do a “home recorded” album? Surely too most of the Church could still keep their feet wet in music by producing or (god forbid!) managing new bands.And was a little bird wrong in telling me that you had a “benefactor” who was supposed to be funding everything you do, much in the same way as Michealangelo was “funded”? If you feel you really need to travel without seeing and “rock ‘n’ roll”, couldn’t you suggest to you benefactor that you might need a raise?!
    You can rage all you want against the dying of the light, but at 53, you’ll never “rage” in the same way as when you were 19. So maybe the Church need to do it in another way.

  59. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 6:39 am #


    Don’t be to disheartened even Paul Stanley from Kiss failed to draw a crowd in a certain town couple of hours North of Sydney — many of the people there were given freebies.

    Maybe oneday you can get on another festival/winery style circuit with a few big acts

    A big show is around the corner sometime somewhere

    and your right you are only ‘The Church’ and in my eyes you r greatest rock band that ever lived


  60. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 7:02 am #

    ..just look at all of the people who write and support you..I’m one of them…somebody once told me that beauty is pain and what you do to give the world beauty is proof of that…we’re behind you steve…
    The Hellbound Heart

  61. avatar
    fantasticandy | 30 April 2007 at 7:10 am #

    told you so!
    yonks back i said if you had played
    birmingham ‘the dudes’ would have seen you ok.
    hell, chrissy would of even washed yer smalls!
    the gig would have been 25mins of easy road driven by someone who actually knows where they’re going.
    even at worcester you’da had a full gig, marty played ‘huntingdon hall here back in 2000 it’s an old chapel with great accoustics. man, THEY do all the flyers,posters,leaflets..they got mailing lists man…MAILING LISTS….they send ’em out to the kind of people who WANT an alternative…people who would come just reading a quick potted bio…oh, they sound interesting don’t they darling!
    you are playing the wrong places!!!!!!
    let me organise the fucking tour,i’ll put bums on seats!
    i live here i know the boho type halls, i know the venues that mail out and contact the right people.
    people with taste.
    andy L. get out there and ROCK THE FUCKIN’ LIVIN’ DAYLIGHTS OUT OF

  62. avatar
    davem | 30 April 2007 at 7:23 am #

    London here we come!!!
    Safe trip to you too Andy. It’s true, I personally know of a dozen folk at least who’d come and watch you in Birmingham. There is support out here.
    Off to catch the first of my trains now!
    Take care Steve,


  63. avatar
    Tony | 30 April 2007 at 7:31 am #

    loveya killa
    hang in there
    p. fish

  64. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 7:34 am #

    fiends!!!!……we are …collectively,a Fucking genius!!!!!!!!free fude ,massages and rooms in West End ,as well…..children and wives essential to deal…….now,thats better than any manbra,,……love to you n yours…….genx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  65. avatar
    mattdavison | 30 April 2007 at 7:42 am #


    I am worried…Stumped!! amazed.
    the church is (scratching my head)
    way too f-in good for the mortal souls that listen to nothing.

    The great masters of the world never achieved their greatness untill others opened their mind to the image of greatness.

    The feeling I get.. Is impending greatness, beyond anybody’s expectations, and I pain for the constant non-realization..

    People of this world (generally) will never get the feelings that I do playing that music you so kindly deliver.

    I can wish for only one thing.

    That you only stop if the realization.. that others not yet have. becomes a failed truth for
    you pk tp and mwp.

    Because, I looked down the side of the house this morning and flowers I saw just happened to be the music world’s garden of eden.

    off to do a painting on a rainy auckland nite..
    “lv ya sk”

  66. avatar
    Dark Eyes | 30 April 2007 at 8:42 am #

    Hello steve,
    Been following your adventures, I think you guys should for a while anyway, stick to playing for Australian audiances, who appreciate and support you in big numbers. Perhaps your overheads would be lower too. Dedicated fans wouldn’t mind paying more to see ‘The Church’. You guys are nonconformists and unique. We love ya! Welcome back home!!


  67. avatar
    van gogh | 30 April 2007 at 8:48 am #

    Mr Kilbey,
    (and sue cee),

    Point taken on board.
    You can see how much financial nous I have – I hardly sold a painting in my whole life.

    My comments were mainly a reaction/over-reaction to some commenters yesterday who:
    a) Seemed to think a small audience is, a priori, a shocking thing.
    b) Slagged off Hengelo, and the people of Hengelo (you know who you are)
    c) Seemed to think that the Church is somehow unique in being dealt a “bad hand” by the world. However, to this I would say – just take a walk through the history of intelligent art. Unfortunately, thus was it ever so. (What’s my name again ?)

    For my part, I certainly wish (but don’t expect) the Church to have large live audiences.

    Anyway – it is honourable that you have stayed true to yourselves over the years and thankyou for playing Hengelo.

    So, which guitarist are you going to let go first ??
    Kidding !! Just kidding !!


  68. avatar
    The Fans | 30 April 2007 at 9:09 am #

    Hey Stevie,

    this is the voice of your fans.
    we will do your bidding.
    we will make your tours happen.
    we will work for free.
    (therefore we will not do a crap job)
    we will iron out the details.
    we will network.
    we will liaise.
    we are your volunteer army.
    (talk about audience participation !)
    and at last
    we will rock you…err…no…
    you will rock us.

  69. avatar
    zebob | 30 April 2007 at 9:48 am #

    You gotta latch onto one of these traveling festival thingies. Like the geezer in the picture.

  70. avatar
    ~ | 30 April 2007 at 11:02 am #

    spirits in the material world
    don’t stop
    making music, nevah evah
    if ya tour in group or solo
    look you have so much support
    collectively, here
    or if you do shows in Aust.
    the serious music lovers will come
    some one had stellar idea bout
    buying tickets to see online gigs
    ah though live is best
    globe trotting gets costly
    and touring needs to support it
    may the wind always be at your back
    and the road rise to meet you
    good people at your side
    your muse sending you good vibes
    and whispering in your ear
    sweet music paintings theatre
    lotsa jazz
    vienna waltz
    vegan food
    warm weather
    the west coast us of a
    has great beaches, hell I’d even say they are amazing
    cali has got the bjm!
    we know you are a fan
    of one of your greatest fans
    fun in the sun baby
    do it do it do it
    come stateside
    pretty please
    sing sing sing
    if ya need posters, I know a photographer
    who’s quite a gem
    down to the souls of her shoes

    safe travelin andyL
    peace to all ya all,

  71. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 11:34 am #

    I’d like to volunteer ta help (been tryin’ fer years) I’m nearly a friend of Miss Patti’s & can be contacted thru her.
    Surely, I’m not the only one willing.
    PLEASE please please don’t let Sept. be justa rumour.


  72. avatar
    ~ | 30 April 2007 at 11:43 am #

    hi isolde,
    if you want to read, click on the ~

  73. avatar
    fantasticandy | 30 April 2007 at 11:47 am #

    thank you~J,
    i’ll send you a full report upon my return!
    much love to you all in these very turbulent times,
    andy L.

    p.s oh,~J idon’t really know if you like any of our stuff, but if’n ya do…..iv’e just posted five new nep-tunes on myspace,bye!

  74. avatar
    calling down baal and zeus | 30 April 2007 at 11:50 am #

    i used to roll around manhattan in my twenties and lay down publicity photos of u and grant , and hex albums [march} for theresa k. … i would definitley pitch in more for another states tour …can this benefacterium be realized … well .. we could try… right?

  75. avatar
    fantasticandy | 30 April 2007 at 11:53 am #

    i am slow sometimes aren’t i?
    see you there!

  76. avatar
    Paul Scott-Fulker | 30 April 2007 at 11:59 am #

    Hi Steve i was a singer/bassist in a band called The Laughing Trees, we gigged and gigged, we had labels look at us,came close to signing to IRS Records but fell through, he dude you did it and to us as a band you were up there with the best of them, The Beatles Beach Boys The Doors, and your piers Rem U2, you sounded fab in Brighton, i was so pleased i went, yeah, the guy in Hamburg maybe right when he said older people don’t go out, look at it like this, to go to your gig i upset my sister in law because i did not attend her fella’s Birthday and i struggled to find a babysitter for my two kids as my Mum forgot i’d asked, but hey i made it, and so did you, You Made it dude!

  77. avatar
    restaurant mark | 30 April 2007 at 12:04 pm #

    i know it can be a struggle…the music is where you guys excel though…if you were 25 or 30 they’d have put you guys on the cover of some music mag when ultc came out…no doubt. you’re right the music is edgy and dark…and it sounds new and fresh too. as a band, you’re fine…as a publicity generating machine…maybe not. only the music counts though…put the gritty in integrity, right? by the way, would love to be the band that makes it and cites you guys as a huge influence. promise i will! take care man.

  78. avatar
    Tokin' Jester | 30 April 2007 at 12:10 pm #

    I am selfish & horribly greedy about you four~ When yer here, I don’t wantcha ta go~& can’t wait ’til ya return. (always leavin’ us wantin’ more)

    A Jimmy Buffet 3 day cruise sorta thing. The church playn’ nightly.

    Ahhh, ’tis fun ta dream.

  79. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 12:21 pm #

    i dunno about the whole “rage at 19, rage at 53 thing”. sk raged around n.america at 52 in a far more decisive manner than i had ever seen.


  80. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 12:23 pm #

    WHAT??? You guys don’t have a manager. I can’t believe it! I just do NOT get it! Just like I don’t understand why I never see The Church on late night shows like Letterman, Leno or Conan O’Brian. Life simply wouldn’t be the same without The Church. You guys are my all-time favourite band. Please don’t break up the band, Steve. Love, Thomas Thomsen, Denmark.

  81. avatar
    eek | 30 April 2007 at 12:54 pm #

    The Church might not have the most fans, but most of the ones you do have love you guys dearly, Steve. I know that kind of lip service doesn’t pay the bills, but maybe, maybe if you guys let us, we can find ways to help you get those bills paid.

    Someone earlier mentioned a benefactor — I’m pretty sure that relationship ended a couple of years ago (after the FY tour I think). I can’t really see that type of thing happening again (although it would be great if it did), but I wonder if a decent number of fans would be interested in being mini-patrons. Instead of having one person give you a large chunk of money to fund a tour for example, what about having a lot of people each give a smallish amount? I mean if just one percent of the people who came to your shows in the US gave between $100 and $500 (above and beyond the cost of their ticket and any merch purchases) to help fund a tour, that would be a decent sum. It wouldn’t pay all your expenses, of course, but maybe it would pay for the vans, or a couple of weeks of hotel rooms. Maybe it could be the difference between “only just scraping thru there” and actually making it somewhat worthwhile financially.

    I’d love to give it a try — anyone else?

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    Lx | 30 April 2007 at 1:07 pm #

    i hate that they put horses out to pasture.
    they’re better off shooting them.
    i’ve always supported the church.
    not the denominational one
    but yours.

  83. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 1:12 pm #

    fuck all the bollocks your a space rock hero, nobody does it better than the church, christ floyd was’nt seen as “great” until years after they broke up.

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    malcolm arkey | 30 April 2007 at 1:26 pm #

    Killa really sang,
    Screwed up eyes
    And screwed down hairdo
    Like some cat from Bondi,
    He could lick ’em by smiling
    He could leave ’em to starve
    Never came on in halves,
    Well sung with golden calves.

  85. avatar
    Krissythegroupie | 30 April 2007 at 1:28 pm #

    Some kids are still interested in 50 year olds.

  86. avatar
    sue cee | 30 April 2007 at 2:10 pm #

    “im just telling it how it is…”

    Amen. Im hugely relieved. And Im sure your mum is too! Love to you, Marty, PK, Tim, Tiare, the gang

    Van G – you didnt lose your sense of humour 🙂

  87. avatar
    Mega-Jason | 30 April 2007 at 2:36 pm #

    Just a few months ago in Chicago, Mission of Burma played to maybe 400 people and I saw plenty of gray hair in there. If they can do it, you certainly can.

    Heck, y’all can borrow my guitars and amps if that makes easier and I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d let ya. That’s it – find half a dozen fans in each city to put you up. Of course, you’d have toput up with: “So, tell me about Heyday again…” or (at 4am) “ya wanna jam?” HAH!

    Seriously, though, PLEASE tell us you’re touring the US this year!

  88. avatar
    Lt.Colonel Malcolm Arkey | 30 April 2007 at 2:41 pm #

    Get a grip, man !!

    Pull your socks up !
    Stop all this wallowing in self-pity !
    Start wearing Y-fronts !
    Take it on the chin !
    Stick your stomach in and your chest out !
    Use a real man’s aftershave !
    Get some red meat inside you !
    Take up fishing !
    Buy a 12 bore !
    Face up to your responsibilities !
    Drink more stout !
    Shave off that damn beard !
    Don’t throw away your wicket so easily !
    Throw away that hippy weed !
    Follow a football team !
    Don’t let your missus get the upper-hand !
    Never smile in front of your children !
    Stop acting like a pillow-biter !
    Burn those fucking poems !
    Vote Conservative !
    Learn how to right-hook !
    Respect your Queen !
    Pay your taxes on time !
    Don’t mention that eastern airy-fairy rubbish again !
    Lose those Communist friends of yours !
    Get a trade !
    Stop poncing about !
    Go to church on Sundays !
    Have your little woman starch your collars !
    Never cry in public !
    Never cry in private !
    Put all those useless books on the bonfire !
    Use your belt more on those spoilt little brats !
    Drink a scotch before going to bed !
    Learn the bagpipes !
    Join the reservists !
    Stand on your own two feet !
    Whistle on the way to work !
    Never lower your standards !
    Never let yourself make a mistake !
    Eat more wheat-bran !
    Get a routine and stick to it !
    Watch your back !
    Mow the lawn on Saturdays !
    Punch first, ask questions later !
    Trust no one !
    Always carry a comb !
    Always carry an umbrella !
    Always have a roast on Sundays !
    Listen to parliament on the radio !
    Use the missionary position !
    Support the empire !
    Give yourself a damn good thrashing !
    And for God’s sake…
    Get a grip, man !!

  89. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 30 April 2007 at 2:45 pm #

    I finally rediscovered the Church and Steve Kilbey a few months ago and its the only music that I have been listening to because it is peerlessly dynamic. I have not been playing Morrissey, The Beatles, Jeff Beck, Moby, The Pretenders, Radiohead or Tangerine Dream during this period. Those have been my favorite Bands for over ten years. Now its The Church. No band is deeper or cooler !

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    cauda pavonis | 30 April 2007 at 3:05 pm #

    don’t forget yer towel
    or how to fly like an eagle to the sea
    red meat no thanka ewe!
    eat more fruit!
    please don’t lose the beard!
    learn from your mistakes!
    find a tasmanian princesss to help with the funds
    maybe she don’t got a lot
    but she shares what she has so good things sorta go her way maybe its just luck
    and willing to work hard
    for what she has
    the fandan gos got some good ideas,
    bout how to make touring less expen$ive
    and raising money to support the cause
    cause they like the music
    going to one place don’t cost too much, but a string of dates and hotels
    mal you are a sarcastic one ain’t ya?

  91. avatar
    ace | 30 April 2007 at 3:10 pm #

    hey how cool would that be the church playin on a cruise every night all day and all of the night

  92. avatar
    PaulC | 30 April 2007 at 3:11 pm #

    I would hate to see you give up touring but I understand the difficulties. What other band have managed to last 27 years constantly challenging, growing, pushing the envelope and sound utterly contemporary but unique? Like others here I wish you’d employ your biggest resource ie the people across the globe who read this blog, the Seancers, Hotel Wombers. Even something like a hi res postcard/poster/flyer for each city you play on your website that could be printed off and distributed would help. I’m so looking forward to tonight. The Church are ‘my band’ and they always will be.

  93. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 3:14 pm #

    I haven’t posted in a while, but this blog has prompted me. As a musician with a crap organization behind me, I know what these tours can be like…and I’m only 33. If you don’t enjoy it and the money isn’t there, and there’s no promotional network to make the shows happen properly, then maybe you should stop touring. Aus is far from Europe and N. America, which is a logistical problem. We’ll all still buy all your Church records and side project records anyway!

    Of course, this is easy for me to say, since I know you’ll never make it to Toronto again!

    Nonetheless, you are likely the most important musician for me and everyone else here in our lives, which should count for a lot as a legacy, shouldn’t it?


  94. avatar
    lt.colonel arkey | 30 April 2007 at 3:16 pm #

    sour chasm is my middle name

  95. avatar
    ~ | 30 April 2007 at 3:16 pm #

    hello andyL
    do you think we could get sk to sign
    our tee shirts after zee show? I thought it would be smart to only carry my CDs (no ipod, laugh it up) so no album artwork to sign…


  96. avatar
    Jen Jewel Brown | 30 April 2007 at 3:20 pm #

    Damn! The hideous bitch goddess (show biz) strikes again.

    You have all the goods and more, except slicker mixes and the marketing push. And the right manager would secure those supports, those covers, those films…

    But if that doesn’t suit you, it doesn’t suit you. I know you’ve had great patience and tried a lot of things where people didn’t work out. The competition is ultra-fierce. The isolation and deprivation of touring, alongside the fun and the highs, can take a very real toll.

    Maybe time to chill out with your other projects, which is exactly the natural cycle you have always chosen, and assess just how many strides you’ve collectively and separately taken these past couple of years.

    Fine deeds, fine deeds indeed. And the tide comes in, and the tide goes out, and the refreshing tide comes in again…

  97. avatar
    cauda pavonis | 30 April 2007 at 3:21 pm #

    I bet it oziz!

  98. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 3:34 pm #

    Forgive me if this has been mentioned before, but I’ve always wondered why more groups just don’t play one gig in their hometown and put it on Pay-Per-View live (or tape the event and PPV later) so everybody can watch The Church at the same time. Would pay much $$$ to see. The one and only time I saw The Church was when they opened for Echo & The Bunnymen in Oakland. Great show that was! (But sadly you were the opening act–I wanted more “Church music.”)


  99. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 April 2007 at 3:37 pm #

    Tomorrow Never Knows

  100. avatar
    malcolm arkey | 30 April 2007 at 3:39 pm #

    The Lieutenant Colonel is nuthin but a loud-mouthed hypocrite…coz I know for a fact he is stoned right at this very moment on something he grew himself.

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