posted on July 25, 2007 at 1:20 am

the devil
what does that mean
that his number was 666?
which number?
or is this some complicated bit of cabbala
tossed into revelations for the cognoscenti?
how could olde jehovah let that dude run riot like that?
why not stamp him out bang! like that
im sorry
but when i look at this earth
and its colours and its processes
and its marvels
the biblical stuff just seems……..pathetic
it seems like it was written a long time ago
by some seriously judgemental old israelites
with long beards and a big axe to grind
oh theres some beautiful parts too
and some ludicrous parts indeed
can you imagine a god capable of creating
the forests
the snow
the lakes
the oceans
is gonna help one lil tribe against another
and say things like
i am a jealous god
gee thats sounds like a human talking …
or whoever it was
running round with a bag of a thousand enemy foreskins
oh yeah thats what god wants
of course
and bears savaging the youths
for laughing at elijahs bald head
fuck him if he cant take a joke!
and the devil
oooh im real scared
hes trying to collect our souls
what for?
why would he give a toss?
and we all know how its gonna end
dont we?
it says so in the bible
gods gonna whoop satans ass, right?
well maybe satan dont believe the bible
after all predictions can be wrong, right?
god its all so utterly ludicrous
and so humancentric
all this
so these 2 cats can play a game
collecting our souls
and all the beasts n deserts n jungles n meadows
are all just scenery for the game
like in a train set
and us…
we’re like the shuttlecocks
naughty lil satan tryin to getcha with the badde stuff
self righteous boring olde gee-hovah judging you
yeah sure
yeah sure thats how it is
thats how this she-bang works
all for humans benefit
like if im jehovah
and i can dream up universes
as if im gonna be so hung up
on what a bunch of turkeys do or dont do
down here
or lucifer
ok he broke free
jehovah gave him free will
and he exercised it
sorry j-man
i dont dig yer rules n regulations
me n a bunch of the other groovy angels are splitting
so we can goof off angel fashion
jehovah says get outta here lu
dont ever darken my doorstep again!
lucifer says
we were already leavin’ !
and this incenses jehovah
and the angels with god
and the angels with lucifer
begin pushing each other about
and soon you got a war in heaven

now i cant believe that olde jehovah
who after all
made all those angels
i cant believe he just dont wade in
and end it
i mean
if he aint the decider
i dunno who is
yet although he wins
there seems to be a bit of a struggle
and what about those other angels that backed the wrong side
they must feel silly sitting in hell
when they coulda had heaven
anyway jehovahs actual lack of omnipotence
i mean everythings always going wrong for him aint it?
adam eating apples
whispering serpents
cain kills his little bro
the tower of babel
david goes bad
then king solly even
its just one thing after another
loads of misogynistic twaddle and unlikely carryings on
quite frankly the “good” guys come off as a bunch
of imperialistic marauding butchering villains
just ask the fucking canaanites
and the big J
he floods the world
he nukes sodom n gomorra
but lets las vegas go….
he just aint coming off as omnipotent to me
nor particularly kind or even “good”
why should one bunch be his “chosen people”
allowed to do whatever they liked to the “enemies”
eg the ones whose land they were invading
justifying the whole thing
with a little rationale that it was ok
cos their god said it was
and whats all this gotta do with me?
why was i raised in a society
where people waved this silly superstitious
n largely tedious book around
saying it was the “good’ book
good for who?
not the canaanites or the cats in jericho
or a bunch of others supposedly massacred in it
im sorry i just aint identifying with the israelites here
i mean their fight aint my fight
and their tent god aint my god
and then a problem enters the bible
into this hodgepodge of law and war and downright plagiarism…
come on christians
the flood and garden of eden are in gilgamesh
thousand years earlier
dont it make ya wonder?
anyway into this largely silly and (to me) irrelevant book
comes something worthwhile
well thats not strictly true either
they started a second book for this guy
the old n new testas are only joined cos some cat said to do it
anyway a new book
a new leaf turned over
and heres a guy spouting some beautiful stuff
no more rape n pillage
no more take his donkey and kick his ass
no more trumpets blowing down walls
just
hey
wait for it..
hey people
try being nice…
there ya go
revolutionary stuff
after all that slaughter n struggle n destruction
we have this enigmatic cat
and hes not that different to buddha really
and who knows if he ever heard buddhas teachings
the gist is the same
dont persecute others
get yer own trip together
people look after each other
live yer lives wisely
love everybody as much as ya can
forgive everybody as much as ya can
boy its pretty simple really
but
its the way these guys put things
they invented these little sutras n parables
so you could understand
where they were coming from
anyway
i dig jesus n his ideas
whoever he was
whoever said that stuff
it didnt say itself….
he was a genius of love
a soothing healing charismatic breath of fresh air
the rest of it
the devil
jehovah
the rules n regs
the justification for invasion n atrocities
dont interest me
666 ooohhh
how scary!!!

81 Responses to “post #666”

  1. avatar
    CSTCoach | 25 July 2007 at 2:28 am #

    i think “steven kilbey” was just put here to delude us all, to lure us to the dark side. Look, the mark of the beast is upon him! Burn the infidel, or at least make him really uncomfortable.

    ryan

    (sorry, was possessed for a moment there, but now we’re both fine)

  2. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 2:36 am #

    Dude,

    Did you get my subscription? Not looking for a pat on the head but concerned for Australia Post’s reliability…..

    B.Bon

  3. avatar
    craig1.618 | 25 July 2007 at 2:37 am #

    couldn’t have said it better myself!!!

  4. avatar
    tristanomas | 25 July 2007 at 2:38 am #

    can’t really argue with simple logic, which gets you thinking huh. thanks for the thoughts bud. av a great day.

  5. avatar
    Lucy 4 | 25 July 2007 at 2:53 am #

    and don’t call your daughters “NATASHA”….!backwards it spells ah satan!*star ha ha !*

  6. avatar
    tristanomas | 25 July 2007 at 2:57 am #

    some priest in an old b/w English movie described the soul by the phrase “the person you are with when you are alone”…. kinder relevant here

  7. avatar
    malcolm arkey | 25 July 2007 at 3:04 am #

    “…with long beards and a big axe to grind”

    I thought for a moment you were talking about ZZ Top.

  8. avatar
    A devoured cat lic | 25 July 2007 at 3:20 am #

    I like the part in the bible,where Jesus’s mother comes out and says”He’s not the messiah,he’s a very naughty boy!now go away!”……Bring on the new messiah,wherever he may roam.Shiver and say the word,of every lie you’ve heard…bring on the dancing horses! oxo

  9. avatar
    steve kilbey | 25 July 2007 at 3:20 am #

    bon no

  10. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 3:20 am #

    Don’t forget! Always grant others Love and Forgiveness. But not too much passion. Oh yeah.. Did I mention.. if you don’t bow down and bestow praises upon me (You see.. I suffer from really low self esteem) you’ll burn in Hell forever!

    ~DOG

    PS: Turn to the other cheek so I can spank it harder!

  11. avatar
    greenland smythe | 25 July 2007 at 3:20 am #

    from the west comes, gently blow warm wind of love caressing the hatred from every angry person

  12. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 3:29 am #

    So what brought all that on?? Is your flight number to Wellington tomorrow QF666

  13. avatar
    the ANGEL | 25 July 2007 at 3:33 am #

    Oh,Jesus, I love trouble! oxo

  14. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 3:34 am #

    This is not good…posted last Tuesday. Alas, I should have heeded your warnings re: currency in the post. I was merely trying to save you from the tax man re: declarable income.

    Serves me right for having impure fiscal thoughts. It were only a small amount anyhoo….

    For future transactions, I don’t do paypal so cheque?

    B.Bonehead

  15. avatar
    JUNIOR PAINKILLER | 25 July 2007 at 3:44 am #

    well, well, well, me 666 was like this, so @#$%&! crazy/beautiful!!!
    Jonny Moondog

    ps. me was barking at me moon…

  16. avatar
    Two Man Dog | 25 July 2007 at 3:50 am #

    Im Right good at holding on.
    to all those who ‘like your old stuff better than your new stuff’ read comment 59 in yesteryears post. You People are a bunch of people! I lurve youse All.

    THe Night Is Very Soft-what a song full of peeling back and laying it down 100 200 300.

    CHeryl Rainbeux Smith would have been proud-the B movie Queen of Cheerleader Classic Camp Film. I love Her til the day crowded House Dies. Theres a Hole in the River where Steve Kilbey’s Addiction to meat Lies. Sister Madley Killed THe Priest who ate her aura. the Division bell rang out for the chaos of swan lake when the opium was running pretty low cause when heyday comes back Neil finn doesn’t want to know!. But we still have to grind, grind it out between the sheets of a beggars banquet even when Lady Day is not going station to station, she’s given up on her coney island dream and settled for some house of the holy in some mansion in the slums in the badlands of every kubrick film she’s ever seen. Although Andy wharhol and Robert Zimmerman still think Ziggy is on their set list they would rather play fire and rain over and over again until the cows come home and we all know that Eugine is there waiting with his axe ready to cut you into little pieces- well one of these days. All he can do know is listen to his own echoes as he sits and whatches emily play for today rather than go out and kill and arab for fun although friday is on his mind he is still caught up in the teenage wildlife of Major tom’s Silver Rocket in his pocket without the sonic youthfullness of Captain Kid and Daniel. I thinks its gonna be a long long time before GAF Is truely recognized as a masterpiece of modern cinema in the fellini scope. Anyhow have a winfield and suck in the Electroshock blues of every sister morphine you ever saw or wild horse you could never catch. THe mint car is there for the comedown as we are all welcome here ever SK and the divine EC was Here without the cream of clapton’s lesser known classic-There’s one in every crowd anyway said the tillerman at teatime. Why can’t we all be like A Lad Insane and just Be my fucking Wife or i will Slap you up in to my arm you bitch that is back. I am still standing though even though i didn’t make the church on time let’s dance to the music that they are playing on the radio anyway and hope that Yer blues will fade away as Mother Superior jumps the Gun of Life and brings it all back home minus the tombstone blues that live down on desolation row. Why can’t we all let it be anyway and have a cigar cause we might go far like the pigs on the wing, although id much rather be one of the dogs, and i think i am gonna kill eye and shoot myself straight out of hell, a firey release from the stars, boy does mars need guitars or was steve right when he got that electric lash from the ladyland down on that road where you live way back in a time when you were mine and I was never blurred by the crusade of monday mornings, lavishing in luxury with my junk and my jewels in my hotel womb- I didn’t think they were invented then.

    yours in a Placebo encased Capsule,

    Raskolnikov.

  17. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 3:52 am #

    Well sk, I’m in the bad books with my family for not baptising my son, try explaining “why not” to an 80yr old Greek Orthodox mum who really does believe there IS a heaven and hell….ahhhhhhh!
    Good luck in NZ on the weekend, post some pics if you can.
    Love always,
    Amanda
    P.S. oh no I sent my cash subscription to you via oz post too, oh well, some postie would have had a few drinks with that one! Bastards!!!!

  18. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 4:06 am #

    Oh Killah
    Your a riot man…
    Im feeling all the finger puppets
    the scenes being torn from the set..

    One day while driving on Easter in New Orleans..
    We pass this mall and in the parking lot theres this mass of people..
    Its like blistering sun as per usual..
    We notice that there are three upright large wooden crosses at the mall entrance..
    I kid not..
    there were three dudes painted in red blood hangin out..next to the roller coasters.. Sweating F’N Balls..

    The shite cant help but crack one up..
    or scare the holy piss out of someone…
    and such nice guys..
    they did it for all of us..

    jaime r…..

  19. avatar
    the dean | 25 July 2007 at 4:11 am #

    It is common knowledge that humans are divine souls trapped in a material world created by an imperfect spirit, the demiurge, who is frequently identified with the Abrahamic God.

  20. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 4:21 am #

    YES!….you are a divine genius!*

  21. avatar
    daniel12 | 25 July 2007 at 4:36 am #

    That hatefull vengefull olde testament god has never seemed remotely divine to me either. I mean what kind of God demands the senceless slaughter of animals and children? .And all that gods choosen people malarky , Is that the height of arrogance or what?.
    Jesus didn’t buy into that old testament twaddle either. Many of his stated veiws were directly opposed to it. Who’s idea was it to publish him toghether with all that hate and wrath bollocks anyway?.

  22. avatar
    daniel12 | 25 July 2007 at 4:50 am #

    Then again if it wasn’t for the Old Testament we wouldn’t have Nick Cave.

  23. avatar
    damien | 25 July 2007 at 4:54 am #

    I have no time for organised religion, but Jesus, Siddharta Gautama and Bill & Ted said it best – “Be excellent to each other.”

  24. avatar
    mattdavison | 25 July 2007 at 5:09 am #

    C ya tmrw Druid..

    Been pushin the streets with Kilbeyisms..to catch punterZ in this crazy wellytown

    got amazin vegan yummies 4.5 steps from ye Ol bath house..

    SAFE FLIGHT ME COBBA.. might be a little bumpy comming in but don’t worry, it’s kinda fun.

    MD

  25. avatar
    gretal smack | 25 July 2007 at 5:16 am #

    enjoyed that so much, I had to read it a few times. great work es-ki.

  26. avatar
    axe boy | 25 July 2007 at 5:17 am #

    day in, day out

  27. avatar
    beelzebub | 25 July 2007 at 5:25 am #

    b.bon,

    don’t fall for that old one !

    SK always says he didn’t receive the donation just so you’ll send another one.

    he he he…

  28. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 5:47 am #

    Nothing beats landing in Wellington in a howling gale, which is forecast for tomorrow.

    666

    🙂

  29. avatar
    Galamor the Wizard | 25 July 2007 at 6:01 am #

    Gee (Short for JESUS) SK,
    and here I was athinking that you had seen past the light, read ol’ Richard Dawkins and become an Athiest like me and you go and mess it all up with the Jesus stuff! Jesus also said that, quite Jesocentrically, that “No one get to the father but by ME!”. He wasn’t that good – certainly not perfect and certainly not worth “worshiping”.

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 6:03 am #

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  31. avatar
    a total stranger | 25 July 2007 at 8:01 am #

    A senior member of The Church bible-bashing??!!
    Ye Gads…. Such blah..sphlemy!!
    You are quite within your right to mock.. But it gives such hope to all those obedient christian folk who do kind deeds to help their fellow kind doing less well themselves (seemingly)..
    Yes???????
    NOT
    Oh god.. i’m off to plant a tree before we all asphixiate

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 8:02 am #

    I don’t really care to even try to debate anyone on the longstanding orientalism issues as to why persians, muslims, etc. want to eject the jeswits from their ‘homeland’. History says and I think it has a lot to do with Jesus of course. It looks to me like Jesus was an image painted and made up by Christians as the son of god.

    Killa, I explained this to my Hindu boyfriend last summer because he didn’t really know what’s going on there. When I mentioned Muslims…he suddenly understood!!

    Before anyone said anything, there was the Karan full of the most beautiful illustrations as it occurred before language defined it. I love the art of it, not so much the meanings.

    The reality is that we’ve all gotta get along and spread the love.

    Crossing Boarders and Renaissance Art History, etc. in CA

  33. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 8:13 am #

    Oi,
    is it true that in the US there’s a 12-song publishing cap on an album – you can have 40 songs on it but you’re only gonna get paid for 12 of em.
    Does it work like this in Oz?
    If so, have you been able to pick WHICH 12 songs you can have the publishing from?
    Cos if it’s just been assigned at random and the 12 happen to be the early ones that you signed away yer royalties for, then I ain’t buying it or I’ll just be funding the thieving fuckers that ripped you off back in the day.
    I need to know or I ain’t forking out!

  34. avatar
    ian hunter sang : | 25 July 2007 at 8:15 am #

    “There’s no religion – you did that: just a trick to keep your leaders fat”

  35. avatar
    Calimero | 25 July 2007 at 8:47 am #

    Steve please, talk about music or your life cause when you talk on Religion your cheap philosophy is really pathetic. Your last blog is pathetic, really. Come on, you can do it better.

  36. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 9:13 am #

    Calimero,
    I do know what you mean, but then, this is just an off-the-top-of-the-head blog not a thoroughly researched, coherently argued essay, let alone a dissertation, eh?

  37. avatar
    TVP's/not calamari' calamero's s mother | 25 July 2007 at 9:23 am #

    OI!calamero /calamari dude…….go and read ze bible! OR get the carrot out of ya bum!…either option’s gotta be better than what you doin’ here!

  38. avatar
    eek | 25 July 2007 at 10:25 am #

    The Old Testament according to SK. You summed up quite nicely….of course you’re gonna burn in hell for it. Don’t you know not to mess with a mean old bastard god-thing who doesn’t really like cheeky…or thinking…humans? 😉

    I always thought the “Don’t you dare look at any other gods, I’m the only god here!” bit seemed mighty damned human myself. Not only human, but whiny, insecurely human too. Of course there’s still some of that in the new testament too.

    The biggest problem with the new testament is although it depicts a nicer god, it is far too often interpreted by people who still have an old testament mindset, so the petty rules and the justifications for bigotry and hatred are still abundant in many people who claim to follow it’s teachings. I suppose that isn’t it’s fault, but it’s still used as a club far too often.

  39. avatar
    fantasticandy | 25 July 2007 at 10:35 am #

    RE:
    ‘your cheap philosophy is really pathetic’…….?
    what’s ‘pathetic’ about it?
    the most ‘pathetic’ thing about todays blog, is that we live in a world where steve feels he needs to state the obvious!
    or at least it seems that way to us free-thinking folk……
    but there lies the rub………
    luv,
    andy L.

  40. avatar
    veleska1970 | 25 July 2007 at 11:06 am #

    i for one have always felt the bible has too many inconsistencies within it. i guess nobody really knows what’s what, do we?

    so…..ready for nz tomorrow?

    lotza love…..

  41. avatar
    Daberhasher | 25 July 2007 at 11:11 am #

    ooh, i guess you didn’t read the bit that goes…
    ” and there will be a bloated and stitched skin of a swine… and yea it will fly through the air and strike the blasphemer dutifully in the nuts, and lo, it will throb…”

    no, i love your take on all that stuff, and it’s true, the simplest things are the most revolutionary…
    i guess fighting is more fun…
    idiots…

    love,
    erik

  42. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 11:11 am #

    TVP,

    Steve said he didn’t want anyone on here who was just going to act as a yesman.
    Leave it out.

  43. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 11:11 am #

    on my knees,and,praying to a new timeless god….

  44. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 11:23 am #

    i’ve never been into organised religion…i just look at the news and see the shit that goes on in the name of this god or that…if i want to talk to some higher being he/she will be in my back yard as much as anywhere else…
    -The Hellbound Heart

  45. avatar
    woodsprite | 25 July 2007 at 11:45 am #

    Re: 666

    Were you reading Savage Chickens yesterday, Mr. Kilbey?

    http://www.savagechickens.com/blog/2007/07/new-or-used.html

  46. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 11:47 am #

    Hi! Mr. Nevets & ALL~
    Why did you choose the Church for a band name?
    I hope yer day doesn’t suck!

  47. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 12:13 pm #

    Too deep for me today. Can we go back to talking about you getting hit in the nuts? Be good to one another and we’ll all do fine. Kick ass in New Zealand!

    Peace,
    Mark
    Tampa, Fl

  48. avatar
    emily teechen | 25 July 2007 at 12:25 pm #

    668, the neighbour of the beast… 666, a very common barcode capitalist plot…. Jesus and the Dalai Lama, beautiful men. Where are all you linkie people? How come everyone’s gome anon?

  49. avatar
    a fan of goodness and love | 25 July 2007 at 12:47 pm #

    genx,Hi baby!I miss your witty and wise comments.You are an angel buddha xxxcome back online,please?

  50. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 1:22 pm #

    Gen…..”—–” lovin ya too /M!

  51. avatar
    the mark of kane | 25 July 2007 at 1:24 pm #

    Genx was an angel AND the buddha?!

  52. avatar
    The Prince of Darkness | 25 July 2007 at 1:56 pm #

    If you dont want her I’ll have her I love redheads on the fire

  53. avatar
    CSTCoach | 25 July 2007 at 1:59 pm #

    Safe travels to NZ, druid! The shows are gonna be great!

    Listening to Mimesis all afternoon yesterday while writing – brilliant stuff. Love the improvised, free association prose poetry visions.

  54. avatar
    snowfaller | 25 July 2007 at 1:59 pm #

    Isn’t The Old Testament useless except for copping a few lyrics?

  55. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 2:44 pm #

    There is a quote, I believe is attributed to Ghandi, which goes something along the lines of “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are nothing like your Christ.” that generally sums it up for me.

  56. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 25 July 2007 at 2:55 pm #

    The Old Testament is the reason why I will not eat God’s creatures. The original and idyllic diet of man was vegetarian (Genesis 1;29). Messianic times will be the restoration of universal peace and harmony and no killing (vegetarianism)(Isaiah 11:9). I want to be clear that I am not a pious Judeo-Catholic. I’m a pariah, a reprobate, a glutton and the personification of cataclysmic intemperance.
    David Fricke is America’s most cerebral music critic. He loves The Church and Jeff Beck. The two best.

  57. avatar
    bird | 25 July 2007 at 3:23 pm #

    a restful night
    a sweet dream
    a nice trip
    a brilliant gig

    and then… some lovely pictures please ^^

  58. avatar
    Cee | 25 July 2007 at 3:43 pm #

    Jesus is my homeboy, we call him Chuy.

  59. avatar
    Anonymous | 25 July 2007 at 4:25 pm #

    It’s the.. Meaning of Life..

    “Can you get that one Deadre?”

    “Just one wafeear thin mint Mr Creasote?”

  60. avatar
    lilitu | 25 July 2007 at 4:27 pm #

    Anon. 12.44 –
    absolutely.

  61. avatar
    davem | 25 July 2007 at 5:13 pm #

    No issues with your comments on Jesus. What a man.
    I struggle again though with the concept of a God who can only reconcile himself to us by allowing him to be nailed to a tree.
    I don’t believe in blood sacrifices be they Goats or the son of God.
    Ugh. Barbaric. Count me out.
    Love you more Esskay,

    davem
    x
    PS Safest of trips to NZ.

  62. avatar
    John | 25 July 2007 at 5:31 pm #

    Ah Kilbey, you hit a favorite topic of mine. Darn you, now I feel I must type something!

    I agree with you and think it’s pretty obvious that the New Testament and Old Testament have very little to do with each other. It’s kind of a shame really that the two are so closely tied in “modern” times because I think it has turned a lot of people off of Jesus’ teachings because they usually don’t actually read the New Testament since they associate it with the Old Testament. He was basically “closing the book” on all the b.s. that was in the scriptures (essentially the Old Testament) at the time and trying to set the record straight for the common folks.

    As Jesus said himself, he came for the Jews, and he came for the Jews to rail against what they were doing and believing at the time. And is not what they were doing and believing at the time based on the scriptures (essentially the Old Testament)? So what more proof does one need that the 2 “halves” of the Bible were not meant to co-exist?

    Jesus did not promote organized religion in any way, shape, or form, suggesting in fact that the best way to pray to God was in the quiet of your “closet” (room) not in front of other people like a show-off. I think Jesus would be appalled by the existence and state of religions and churches. The mixture of money, misdeeds, and violence was exactly what he came to destroy. If you actually read the New Testament it’s pretty obvious he would rather people meet in a local park in pouring down rain if they want to discuss God, and use the “building fund” to help the poor rather than spending dollars putting up and maintaining some gilded shrine to keep their heads dry.

    People really should read the New Testament and ditch their notions of what they think is in there based on the Old Testament and also what people have “told” them is in there. They would be amazed by the true message. People have so misconstrued Jesus and therefore given him a persona that really is not fair. It’s like how people today associate Jesus with televangelists and exaggerated religions in general, they kind of make Jesus seem “goofy” and undesirable and that’s a real shame, because again, when you actually read the New Testament, Jesus was extremely cool, and very much for normal, every day common mistake-riddled people.

    I agree that our best bet is to try to extract the meaning of the messages Jesus was teaching as best as possible, and realize that even in the case of the New Testament there are human hands that put it down on paper and as one would expect added some silly bits toward their own ends, which become blatantly obvious when you read them in the context of the rest of it.

    Also, I think Paul makes a lot of sense too as far as extending Jesus’ message out to the greater population (like most of us). He has a lot of credibility too since he is a historically documented figure and suffered greatly for his beliefs which gained him no earthly reward and nothing but misery, so why do it? And beside that, his story is pretty amazing if you think about it.

    John

  63. avatar
    NickF | 25 July 2007 at 5:34 pm #

    that bible sure is a scary story. written to scare us? control us ? hmmmmmmm i wonder!?

  64. avatar
    gareth,notts | 25 July 2007 at 6:09 pm #

    ah,now,you do have a way with words!great blog!…but i must say organised religion is just the biggest pile o’ shite,in my humble opinion of course….

  65. avatar
    dean9000 | 25 July 2007 at 8:23 pm #

    Calimero said…

    “Steve please, talk about music or your life cause when you talk on Religion your cheap philosophy is really pathetic. Your last blog is pathetic, really. Come on, you can do it better.”

    gotta agree with this poster on this one…. I also do agree a lot of what the above poster John said…. The old testament was very rules driven…. Jesus broke us away from all this and opened things up for all people….No more sacrifices, sabbath rules, etc. that the Jewish people follow….it’s still important to know in context and explains alot in the new testament not to mention the nature of sin and it’s consequences….

    This was no manna from heaven like what we have been getting recently from you(at least from my point of view)….Not sure what you are gaining by throwing the Bible/Christianity under the bus…. but it’s your blog and here I am commenting about it…And I haven’t even kicked into your slush fund yet so F me…….

    peace,

    dean

  66. avatar
    Intense feeling of Love | 25 July 2007 at 10:55 pm #

    I don’t think he’s throwing christianity under the bus exactly.
    The question is more…do you believe in religion or not, heaven and hell, good and evil, right and wrong.

    Well, do I? Depends on what day you catch me- yesterday I touched the magic key to get into Steve’s blog and at exactly the same time A CHURCH song came over the radio. Oh my god, there really is a church!! ha

    You can pick and choose your religions and even how much you want to believe at what time of day :). I’m glad to be Episcopalian, I question my love for mine and other religions. What a concept, belief system, whatever. Disgusted by violence of any kind- can’t agree with ‘religion’ that supports it.

    Thinking of Ashwaria Rai in CA

  67. avatar
    DELIRIOUS | 25 July 2007 at 11:29 pm #

    Just delirious!

  68. avatar
    lash of the Titians | 26 July 2007 at 12:11 am #

    Have a great one tonight…Sir Kilbey!xxx

  69. avatar
    JJ | 26 July 2007 at 12:31 am #

    DaveM; my sentiments exactly. I was schooled by catholic nuns for 8 years, I got my indoctrination. Funny how it doesn’t take, despite their best efforts at mind control. “Ghosts crowd the young child’s fragile eggshell mind.”

    The Bible literalists, and there are many here in the US Southland, amaze me. Beelzebubbas, I say. Just gimme some truth. The Walrus said “I don’t believe in Bible, I don’t believe in I’Ching…” I’d like to know who the real Jesus was….will the real Jesus please stand up?

    p.s. In San Carlos Mexico again; amazing how many catholic shrines dot the mountains and landscape here…the locals adorn them with beads and plastic flowers. Statues of Mary too, only instead of being a Jew she looks Anglo-Saxon (?)

  70. avatar
    Anonymous | 26 July 2007 at 1:30 am #

    anon @ 9:29

    you lose ground when you throw mud…

  71. avatar
    kat | 26 July 2007 at 1:37 am #

    sk et. al,

    you gotta serve somebody.. as dylan wrote, but that doesn’t mean you have to go to church or understand all the rigamarole. at least thats my view. spirits are a different story altogether. scary when u don’t feel anything at all sometimes.

    numbers… a great song!!

    peacexo & ;]=~~

  72. avatar
    Melquaides | 26 July 2007 at 1:40 am #

    Take the fruit
    Go on…..
    YOu’ll like it.
    It’ll make you feel good….
    You’ll see silver visions and
    the birth of your progeny

  73. avatar
    TV | 26 July 2007 at 2:00 am #

    pretty fashionable to be make fun of organised religion
    why can’t you all just say ‘horses for courses’ but its not for me instead of having to trample on stuff to make a point

    you should never discuss politics or religion with strangers, but then we are all strangers here

  74. avatar
    Anonymous | 26 July 2007 at 2:08 am #

    Anon.at 11:30 There’s no Anonymous at 9:29

  75. avatar
    Anonymous | 26 July 2007 at 2:30 am #

    Razed catholic, mes-elf.

    the new testament, especially them gospels walk with buddha.
    i sea the conextion.

    ‘ol Hay-zeus was a cat i could sit down and have the palaver with, as it were.

    that olde test-a-mint is load ‘o bad cabbage.

    leviticus? nicca’? puuhhleasse!

    -theglynnisjuans

  76. avatar
    Anonymous | 26 July 2007 at 3:08 am #

    thanks for pointing that out Anonymous at 12.08pm

  77. avatar
    Anonymous | 26 July 2007 at 5:31 am #

    does anyone remember that movie the Omen…..a fair bit of 666 in that moveie.

    scared the shit out me when i was a kid

  78. avatar
    daydreamer | 26 July 2007 at 6:11 am #

    Well really. The Bible was conceived and written by humans. Nothing divine about any of it if you ask me. Oh right… you didn’t ask me ~

  79. avatar
    Anonymous | 26 July 2007 at 6:25 am #

    …and I wonder

  80. avatar
    Fat Albert | 26 July 2007 at 6:58 am #

    Updating the correction upon re-corrected observation and knee deep in eagle eyes- the anon @ 9:28 is wearing a delerious jacket.

    Oh genx of the peaceful world, how I love thee so. Wherever art thou?

    This morning I put on the devil’s shoes, hailed cab #666, then paid a gracious tip to ride through hell.

  81. avatar
    steve kilbey | 26 July 2007 at 7:02 am #

    it was post 666
    cos it was my 666th post
    the devil take ya!
    big badde iconoclast killer


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