posted on February 8, 2007 at 7:28 pm

gee whiz
theres some nice people on here
theres some real idjits as well
i guess it takes all types
do you really have to write the things you write
you nassty types…?
yeah you know who im talking to…
do i have to explain myself….
i would,
but i am reluctant to insult the intelligence
of MOST of my readers
our thing is based on mutual respect…
i present you with the workings of my mind…
im giving you honesty (honestly, i am)
you want some shrink wrapped version that my publicist
has gone thru n eliminated anything that
“might send the wrong message” ?
i cant believe that you take stuff so literally
and uh
that brings me on to 6 friends of mine as yet unintroduced
you met one of yessaday
im talking bout
anger
lust
gluttony
avarice
sloth
n
vanity
you think ive got envy badde, my flock?
oh you should see those others in action
who among us is not smitten?
oh those liars there…
of course i guess theres people with no anger or lust…
i dont really know em tho…
we are human
the greater the sinner the greater the saint
yes i am a bad man
yes i am a good man
let it all go…..
anger is a bastard
im an angry bastard too
i can be placid for hours n i then i explode
or im a niggling whinging wally
sowing discontent n anger in little seeds
im angry about everything sometimes
the baby crying
the dogs barking
the buses groaning
the downstairs mob:
a sample conversation overheard lastnite
the scene: under sks balc where hes doing some yoga
2 young men with strong aussie accents
” how come when you rolled about 8 doubles inna row
i never cracked a shit?”
“bullfuckingshit, i just fuckin’ rolled 2 double 8s and you said
that i was a fuckincheater”
“yeah cos you was fuckin’ cheatin'”
“fuckinbullshit!”
“”bullshit”
“fuck this then”
“no mate its my fuckin turn”
“no fuckin way”
“bullshit”
etc
other things that produce anger are
snobs
slobs
yobs
mobs
(gee im on a roll here)
s.o.b.s
and then theres
duh..injustice, bush, war etc etc
of course theres righteous anger
and theres selfish horrible anger
and anger is not an energy
it uses up your energy
and in the state of anger
we are distancing our self from god
and therin lies the sinful part
and that deserves some examination too
what is a sin
some rules n regulations some daft olde testyment god invented
just because He said so…?
or is sin
the absence of god
an act that actually excludes god from your heart
yep anger will do that
when olde sk is eavesdropping on downstairs conversation
and getting all angry about it
you can bet that god was the furthest thing from my mind
could i hear god whispering
“so what? leave them be “
or was i off on my own puffed up self-righteous anger trip?
and boy lust
well lust and god aint gonna sit too well in yer heart together
i aint even gonna discuss that
but you know its true
gluttony
now someone wrote the other day
that i dont have any eating disorders
are you fucking kidding me?
my chocky piggery is legendary…
i am an infamous chocolate glutton
ok i dont stuff my face all day with doughnuts
or worse still i dont lust after meat….a double sin i guess
people who pig out on pig…man you can see it
all you wasted flesheating useless blobs
olde sk can kick yer fuckin butt n im probably 15 years older than ya
not cos im superman baby but because im vegetarian
you know its the truth
find some wineswilling pork-swallowing executive
and give him a heavy fender bass
and tell him to pluck it rapidly
run around doing stupid poses
bawl his voice out nonstop remembering all da words
for 2 hours
in the 43 degree heat
in the fuckin freezing cold
under hotlights that frying your brainbox
no no no
you gotta be a vegetarian if you wanna do that stuff at 52 (but who would?)
gluttony is one of the physically most repulsive sins
and often goes hand in hand with sloth
no sloth n i dont have much fuckin’ truck together actually
i dont dig sloth much at all
(tho i love sloths)
but if youd seen me during the “gear” days
i was often snoozing on a couch in a studio somewhere
while the session fell apart around me
this was drug induced sloth
i guess gluttony induces sloth
n here we see that many of the sins are interconnected
you cant eradicate one without the other
if you eat do-nuts or lard chips dipped in liverpate
and sit there all day watching the telly
and then ya look in the mirror
and ya think
theres no way outta this…there is!
dont eat the meat
and exercise!
look those next five years are gonna pass
whether youre lying beached on a sofa
or whether youre doing yer laps or jogging yer ass
so why not finish up trim n healthy
and yes
a gluttonous pig eating quail meat n veal horror
aint gonna be thinkin of god
as he lays on his sofa trying to digest the muck
in his guts
and snoring and …..
well you get the picture
people we need to move
people we need to eat sweet clean things
and oh boy
the next deadly sin is a doozy
avarice
the lust for money
have you ever seen a loada money
like the takings from a big gig
hundreds n thousands of euros or bucks
i did a gig once
and i got paid in cash
and i had thousands of bucks in this pillowcase
and it made me feel….funny
cmon we all gotta bitta avarice baybee
you know how badly the t. being wants to escape
the self inflicted poverty he finds himself in
i mean i dont want much
just a cupple of mill
thatll do
just a nice house n a pool
n some other stuff
a studio
a flat in sweden again maybe
somewhere in the states too for nk
yes give me that money
and christ i look at the tossers with the dough
and i judge myself better in every way
so fuck it all where is the money i deserve
i mean
theres millions of them
and only one me….
and is god in my heart when i think about all that money….
nope
and ya know when i think of all the ways
in which i am better than those rich swine
i encounter a terrible sk deadly sin
which is vanity
oh my oh my oh my
a vain man
a vain olde man which is even worse
a) not so much to be vain about anymore
b) its disappointing that you aint learnt yet
sk you vain old posturing pretentious wanker
you big headed olde genius
you stupid narcissistic turkey
you are so fucking full of yourself olde son
what gives?
muse: he’ll say his insecurity but he really is just plain vain!
well i got a lot to be vain about…(cringe)
i mean….
gee i m a good blogger
and i sell my “colourful” paintings to somebody
and i only started painting last week
actually its not painting
its these chalky things called pastels
and i rub it in with my fingers
and a street artist said
oooh you shouldnt get em into yer skin or youll die
and now im worried
cos i dont wanna die
now that im looking so damn good again
with my golden yet freckly suntan
and my thinning but not grey hair
and my bulging calves n triceps that need more work
with my american earthmother considerably (ha!) younger wife
(oh no that brings me back to lust….)
and my perfect daughters
if you dont count the syringomyelia n asthma
and i dont know if i like being me
or i hate being me
but we all agree on my vanity
i hear no one protesting
so you see heres my rating for each of the sins
as far as i am infected with them
envy ****
anger*****
lust*****
gluttony**
sloth*
avarice*** n a half
vanity *****
i would like each commenter to be as honest as i am
and post a comment rating themselves thusly
can you do it?
we’re all waiting
sk
oh and heres todays mention
of rikki n the bjm

116 Responses to “seven thousand deadly sins”

  1. avatar
    Padders | 8 February 2007 at 9:00 pm #

    Hmmmm lets see…

    Envy *****
    Anger****
    Lust*****
    Gluttony***
    Sloth****
    Avarice****
    Vanity *****

    Blimey, can’t say as that left me feeling particularily proud. Time to address some issues methinks….

  2. avatar
    leelinau | 8 February 2007 at 9:16 pm #

    Lets see then…

    envy -*

    anger -*

    lust **

    gluttony **

    sloth ***

    avarice *

    vanity *

    Still lots to work on.

    I stopped eating meat for 8 years in the 90’s per Howard Jones’ goading (hehe).

    Still debating on taking that up again. *sigh…

    o_o poor Anna Nicole (RIP)

    strange days indeed…

  3. avatar
    fantasticandy | 8 February 2007 at 9:17 pm #

    envy*
    anger**
    lust*****
    gluttony*****
    sloth*
    avarice**
    vanity***

  4. avatar
    craig1.618 | 8 February 2007 at 9:20 pm #

    envy*
    anger***
    lust***
    gluttony**
    sloth*
    avarice**
    vanity********************************************

  5. avatar
    John Garratt | 8 February 2007 at 9:28 pm #

    I used a company to compute my vices. It exploded.

    John

  6. avatar
    FANDORIN | 8 February 2007 at 9:28 pm #

    FANDORIN’S FUNNY VICES

    envy*****
    anger**
    lust******
    gluttony****
    sloth***
    vanity*
    avarice (too lazy to fetch the dictionary)

    instead of avarice i’ll make another one up, ok?

    fritterity*****

  7. avatar
    damien | 8 February 2007 at 9:38 pm #

    envy***
    anger*
    lust***
    gluttony*****
    sloth****
    vanity***
    avarice*

    I stumbled across a DVD called “Countdown: The Wonder Years” yesterday and bought it because it has The Church performing the Unguarded Moment on Countdown in 1981.

    Let me flatter you by saying how much you have improved with age, SK.

    It’s also significant that, of 60-odd performances from the seventies and eighties by various Australian acts over two DVDs, The Church is one of the few still standing. Something to be proud of.

    Makes me think that the singer from Wa Wa Nee probably envies you these days, Steve. You still have one of those things. . . .what’s it called? Oh, yeah! A career!

  8. avatar
    gator | 8 February 2007 at 9:51 pm #

    Envy sk’s drugs ***

    Anger at having no drugs **

    Lusting after drugs *****

    Gluttony (nothing to glut on) *

    Sloth (even without drugs) ****

    Avarice (“avarice and greed, are gonna somethin’ somethin’ the endless sea”) *

    Vanity (the ugly one Prince had a thing with?) *

  9. avatar
    The Carrier of Fruit | 8 February 2007 at 9:53 pm #

    envy* [hence the no comment yesterday]
    anger***
    lust*******
    gluttony*
    sloth*******
    avarice******
    vanity**

    I am sure my score on the unlisted sins would be quite large as well.

  10. avatar
    davem | 8 February 2007 at 9:54 pm #

    oh dear.
    envy*
    anger****
    lust*****
    gluttony***
    sloth**
    avarice*
    vanity*
    Can we do something different tomorrow please, Sir?
    I don’t like this exercise.

  11. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 February 2007 at 9:58 pm #

    envy*
    anger*****
    lust**
    gluttony***
    sloth**
    avarice**
    vanity****

    Remember SK, it’s not a sin if you don’t get caught…

  12. avatar
    fantasticandy | 8 February 2007 at 10:01 pm #

    nevets,
    i didn’t take part yesterday, and i only managed to read the comments
    a few moments ago.
    my heart sank into my boots.
    your’e a good man steve kilbey,
    i am proud to be your friend.
    all the best,
    andy L.

    p.s. sue cee, thanks for the add,
    i know you don’t normally accept bands anymore, cheers!

  13. avatar
    roger nimrod | 8 February 2007 at 10:03 pm #

    envy 1
    anger2
    lust5
    gluttony 3
    sloth 4
    avarice 3
    vanity 3.5

  14. avatar
    CAPTAIN BEYOND | 8 February 2007 at 10:06 pm #

    Do you really want to know how much of a sinner me am, just listen to me DM’s “The Sinner In Me” and you will know…
    Jonny Moondog

  15. avatar
    the dean | 8 February 2007 at 10:07 pm #

    anger ******
    lust *****
    vanity ***
    avarice **
    envy **
    sloth **
    gluttony *

    Anger is the worst, anger at nothing, at everything, for no reason, alone or in a crowd, at friends, at strangers. Is this an affluent disease or am I just a bit of a dickhead? Sloth is something that decreases with age when you realise that time is running out.
    Sloths(3 toed types) have been given an undiserving title. We should rename them like we did the chinese gooseberry. Kiwibeast?

  16. avatar
    veleska1970 | 8 February 2007 at 10:13 pm #

    you’re right~~you ARE on a roll today. gee, i have so much i wanna comment about, but don’t know what to comment on. well, i’ll pick the one thing that really jumped out at me: “an act that actually excludes god from your heart
    yep anger will do that”~~nail-on-the-head-accurate, steve.

    … so, to tie this in with your request of honesty, i’ll tell you that anger is definitely one of my “infections” as you call it. a few years ago i even attended anger management sessions. i’ve always had a temper (inherited it), but i guess went to the sessions to get it under control for the sake of my daughter. i’m considerably better than i used to be, but before, when i was mad, i knew no logic. i was insufferable. i could single-handedly level an entire city block with my wrath.

    as for the other sins, here’s my rating:
    envy*******~~i envy those who are better off than me, not necessarily financially, but physically, mentally, spiritually, etc.

    anger***~~i’m working on it

    lust**~~i have a very low libido because of my thyroid problem
    **blush**

    gluttony*****~~i have a ferocious sweet tooth, too

    sloth***~~working on this one, too, although it’s difficult. my thyroid problem causes me to experience severe fatigue; on some days it’s debilitating.

    avarice*~~i’ve never really been interested in the pie in the sky; i only require enough to keep a decent life for my daughter and myself. besides, you can’t take it with you when you croak anyway!!

    vanity****~~of course i worry about how i look….who doesn’t??!??!

  17. avatar
    veleska1970 | 8 February 2007 at 10:16 pm #

    oh, i almost forgot….another item from today that i wanted to comment about~~~thank you, thank you, thank you, steve, for blasting the “nassty types”. though this is not the first time you have spoken up….it’s obvious some people just DON’T FUCKING LISTEN!!!

  18. avatar
    shawn_el | 8 February 2007 at 10:26 pm #

    SK – I hope I wasn’t one of the folks who pushed your buttons. If I did I am sorry. I really like you and nothing you do or say ever offends me (hence my reading yon goode bloggy on a daily basis-y). I look at you as kind of a father figure in a way, although I know that’s kind of weird. But you are the same age as my dad and twice my age so perhaps that makes it less weird…? In any event I respect your wisdom and experience.

  19. avatar
    annikajones | 8 February 2007 at 10:33 pm #

    Hell yeah. Who wants to be meek, anyway?

  20. avatar
    MarkM | 8 February 2007 at 10:33 pm #

    envy ***** (I gave myself away on that one y’day)
    anger*** (most of my anger’s internal I think – and thats no good either!)
    lust****
    gluttony** (after my health troubles my appetite crashed!)
    sloth*** (ok, I’m working on this one – inspired by SK’s early morning swims)
    avarice**
    vanity ****
    Can I say my mention y’day of envy being a sin, was with tongue firmly planted in cheek, especially as I had just described myself as full of it….thus the use of my fave tongue in cheek expression “dagnabbit”…..

  21. avatar
    annikajones | 8 February 2007 at 10:33 pm #

    Oh, and…
    envy* anger***** lust***** gluttony** sloth*** avarice* vanity****

  22. avatar
    public savant | 8 February 2007 at 10:39 pm #

    envy⅔
    anger****
    lust********⅓
    gluttony*
    sloth⅛
    avarice*****(christ i like nice things)
    vanity****

  23. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 February 2007 at 10:41 pm #

    excellent

  24. avatar
    Richard | 8 February 2007 at 10:52 pm #

    envy*
    anger****
    lust**
    gluttony***(toys not food)
    sloth****
    avarice*
    vanity****

    guess that makes me a grumpy, lazy, greedy bastard who manages nevertheless to be in with love himself – if stupidity were a sin I’d get a 5!

    (Steve, can you write about your good points tomorrow?)

  25. avatar
    restaurant mark | 8 February 2007 at 11:00 pm #

    god if i list these it’s gonna make me think about myself too much and i’ll probably need self help classes for the next 6 months…ok, lets see

    envy-****1/2-always want what someone else has/happy with what i do have though…keeps me from a five
    anger-****-just get frustrated, with everyone, everything, myself…mix 1 part smartass and 1 part bad mood…don’t shake
    lust-*****-can i go six?
    gluttony-**1/2-kinda middle ground…don’t overdo anything…right? well, maybe i shoulda went with ***
    sloth-*-not too lazy, just don’t have the time
    avarice-***-yeah, would love a couple of million too…i really feel like it would help with the envy problem. i’d have that house, i’d have that car…nice pool
    vanity-*****-i could go on and on…glad my wife’s not around…she’d add more stars

    well, now i think i’ll roll one and look for a therapist in the yellow pages…

    take care and thanks for todays ricki mention

  26. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 February 2007 at 11:15 pm #

    Giving US assignments now, eh? The cheek!!

    Chela

  27. avatar
    wil-O | 8 February 2007 at 11:22 pm #

    envy ***
    anger #
    lust +++++++
    gluttony @@
    sloth !!!!!!
    avarice $$$$
    vanity &&&&&

    Sorry Kil-O, I’ve never been too good with instructions … so I ranked ’em from lowest to highest.

  28. avatar
    CeciliaGin | 8 February 2007 at 11:29 pm #

    anger * (only when people do stooooopid things that affect me personally! Like filling up the trash and recycle bins so no one else can dump their trash! ARGH!!!)
    lust ***** (only when Colin D’s in town)
    vanity ***** (see lust)
    avarice (does not compute)
    envy ** (see yesterday’s comment)
    sloth * (only when afflicted by insomnia and if there’s an Addams Family marathon on tv)
    gluttony (no, I’m going to Maui in May, c’mon!) I’m having a banana split when I get back though!

  29. avatar
    triantelope | 8 February 2007 at 11:29 pm #

    envy * *
    anger *
    lust * * * * * what the hell’s wrong with lust..??
    gluttony *
    sloth * * *
    avarice * *
    vanity * *

    Actually I don’t think anything I do is a sin. To exclude god from my heart I would first have to accept that some kind of god actually exists…. which I don’t…. therefore, I am incapable of sin…

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 February 2007 at 11:47 pm #

    envy ***********
    anger***********
    lust************
    gluttony***************************
    sloth*
    avarice**********
    vanity *

    DR

  31. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 12:08 am #

    envy **
    anger****
    lust****
    gluttony**
    sloth*****
    avarice**
    vanity ***

    My high score on sloth accounts for the lower score on other sins – can’t be bothered…

    And in the spirit of honesty, it was me who called you a Sexy Olde Bassplayer last week, SK. The ‘olde’ is affectionate, not literal – I’ve thought of you that way for years.
    MDxx

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 12:18 am #

    envy**
    anger**
    gluttony****
    sloth**
    avarice**
    vanity****
    lust***

  33. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 12:18 am #

    P.S. If impatience was a sin, I’d have horns & a pitchfork
    MDxx

  34. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 12:25 am #

    Guilty on all counts.

    N Russell , I was joshing ..
    Put the zero on by mistake
    Dont worry be happy

    Dutch Pierre

  35. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 12:31 am #

    Here we go again.. Nevets slagging off carnivors. We are what we eat, but hey, I will play your songs with ease and style next Monday night, probably after having devoured a pork chop or sirloin steak n salad. An ex wife once forced that shite of a white rubbery crap tofu upon me for years. She could marinate n disguise it in shoyoyu all she liked, till it was f-ing brown, but it still melted in my mouth with all the welcome of a soft turd. awful toxic stuff.

    Moderation is the key. I eat meat, I eat fish, I eat sushi, I eat vegetables, and I can still play a set with my Fender strat under stinkin hot lights on a muggy Auckland summers night whilst doin’ a salute to the sun or pranyama.

    We are what we enjoy eating, we arnt what we loath eating.

    How do you get your iron Nevets? pills? Not from a moderate intake of veges thats for sure :))

    And Dutch! Russell K looks nothing like 70 !!!!!!!!!!

    P.L

    Auckland

  36. avatar
    Melquiades | 9 February 2007 at 12:39 am #

    (assuming a scale from 1-5)

    envy *(Just Kilbey. kidding. Yeah, don’t we all? We’re programmed to envy in this culture. Looook at Joe Dollar with his harems and Maserati and mansion on the hill. you need this to be happy, you know?)

    anger*****(I’ve scared myself at times in life. who was that beast?)

    lust*****(yeah, this one has been with me for as long as I can remember. Just thought I had a healthy libido.)

    gluttony****(Ugh! This is a bad one for me lately. I think it’s replaced certain things in my life I gave up. What’s worse? I guess to give them all up is the way. There I just answered myself. Thanks Steve. Besides, I have a fitness center and plenty of hiking trails at my development. that’s sacrelig I don’t use them more often.)

    sloth****(Sometimes though after a week in the office doing nothing on Saturday AND Sunday feels soooooo good)

    avarice*(during all my trials and tribulations I always tried not to harm others in my path. I wasn’t always successful, but I always thought of this)

    vanity * (I think this is ever more apparent in the world. our work places and comedies are based on the elevation of ones self at the cost of anothers self esteem or position).

    Thanks Fr. Kilbey. I shall tithe and bow gracefully to your sublime wisdom to elicit such responses and introspection.

    what about volunteering? I know you’ve done some charitable music workshops. Charity gives back. I should do this.

  37. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 1:13 am #

    God this is all unraveling and becoming pathetic….I’m definitely losing touch…human, all-too human…I wonder- who do you consider the idiots and mean-spirited and how do they compare to this ridiculous fawning and warmed-over gloating…of some of yer usuals??? I mean, there is quite a bit to observe here..and I’ll bet there are just a few folks out there who listen in on this chatter…and want to count their years, and rub their tired tired eyes…yawn…C’mon…You talk about wanting to be a Sage?? right? Well, I think it requires some severity of understanding_ which Steve, I know you got- in spades Man…Time begets wisdom, right? Are you sufferin some mid-life crisis? You really believe in that form of the Rock and roll Lie???? It’s bullshit> Real Compassion doesn’t parlay with all this “cool” shit…some of it is fine…ANSWER`= I USE TO ENVY YOU…now i realize you may not be who i thought you were, nor am i alone…after all….D~$

  38. avatar
    Digruntled Commenter At 16 Minutes Past Noon | 9 February 2007 at 1:16 am #

    you always hate the ones you love.

    damn that ego! it always makes me spit fumes out of my mouth. Primarily methane based with a hint of Sarin

  39. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 1:26 am #

    P.L

    Meat and fish IS toxic.

    Meat:

    “As early as 1961, The AMA journal stated that 90+% of heart disease can be prevented with a Vegetarian diet…

    Dioxin, one of the deadliest toxins, is concentrated in meat at levels 22 times what are safe, according to the EPA. More than 95% of all dioxin exposure comes in meat, dairy, and eggs. None comes in vegan foods (the other 5% is environmental).

    Factory farming has made meat eating more dangerous. Because the animals are given tranquilizers, hormones and antibiotics, the latter often up to 30 times higher than humans consume in a lifetime. Preservatives in meat are dangerous to human health too.

    Diseases in the meat itself go unchecked. There are not enough Meat Inspectors and& their checks are cursory. If ever there are recalls- , most of the tainted meat has already been consumed and& the damage done. Cows with eye cancer and& abscessed liver are processed. ( 19 million pounds of beef were recalled July 02)…

    What about protein? How does the rhino, the elephant and the bull survive? Inadequacy of protein in a vegetarian diet is a complete myth propagated by vested interests. In fact, over- ingestion of protein in the Western diet has been detrimental to health. Grains, beans, sprouts, nuts are all concentrated sources of protein….”

    -http://www.stephen-knapp.com/why_be_a_vegan_vegetarian.htm

    yummy……..

    As for fish:

    “Farm raised salmon in North America contain antibiotics, growth hormones and even a dye to colour the flesh a pleasing pink while still alive.

    Long-living fish like halibut, cod, orange roughy and swordfish contain large amounts of heavy metals. When you can live over a century like a halibut, you accumulate decades of toxins. When you live high up on the food chain, you build up mercury and other heavy metals….

    We treat the oceans like sewers and then act surprised that the fish that is eaten is polluted.

    Humans can be wilfully blind and deliberately ignorant when it comes to food. We would never eat a piece of fish sitting in a bowl of mercury, arsenic and PCBs garnished with a lump of human fecal material on top. Yet when the lump of crap is brushed off and the toxins washed away, we serve that lump of sautéed toxic fish flesh up without a thought of what has penetrated the cells of the meat.”
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10397302

    delish…

    For iron:

    “Good plant sources of iron include dried fruits, whole grains (including wholemeal bread), nuts, green leafy vegetables, seeds and pulses. Other foods rich in iron but which are usually eaten in smaller amounts include soya flour, parsley, watercress, black molasses and edible seaweeds. The use of ironware when cooking foods also contributes to dietary intake.”-http://www.vegansociety.com/html/food/nutrition/iron.php

  40. avatar
    stealthblue | 9 February 2007 at 1:28 am #

    Amen to all of that!

    Envy:***and three quarters
    Anger:***.85
    Lust:*****
    Gluttony:**
    Sloth:*.375(sometimes necessary)
    Avarice:***(just enough-very closely related to envy-to live the way I’d like to)
    Vanity:***.875

    Hey, we’re all just human here, and if ya ain’t, please fill us in. I learned more about being human by watching Sesame Street and the Smurfs than any kind of “reality” program or Oprah for that matter!! Yeah, God rest Anna Nicole’s poor, troubled soul. THAT is a perfect example of the “Seven Deadlies”..know what I mean?

    As far as the origin of sin… bible, doctrine, creed or nothing at all, I just think that a sin is whatever makes you feel disconnected from god/God/Mind/Spirit/Kane/Universal-Self from so deep within you might not even know it at first, but you’ve offset the balance between being blessed and truly grateful and disregard and greed. I believe that we can be so over-come with sin that we actually do become physically ill and mentally as well. It’s not religion or science, it just is that way…take a look at the world around us? By offending God, we are offending ourselves and vice-versa. God doesn’t want us to suffer, and striving for martyrdom will not bring you any closer to fruit if you’re just going to let it rot. If you truly feel good about what you are doing, and know that it is right, what’s wrong with having a few bones to sit on as long as you help out when you can and throw a couple to someone else??
    I’m not saying you have to get all “Oprah” about it and let the world know how much you give away, but there is nothing more respectable than someone with the means helping out…under the radar and out of the goodness of their heart. All these sins can be intertwined and connected, but can you imagine what kind of person you would be if they took hold of you ALL the time, and you did nothing about it?? Now that would suck, friends, needless to say.

    Take care all you wonderful humans.
    Peace and goodnight,
    Ben V.

  41. avatar
    A Losing Grip | 9 February 2007 at 1:31 am #

    should you
    would you
    could you could
    could you look good

  42. avatar
    Melquiades | 9 February 2007 at 1:57 am #

    do you change your tunings Steve? I was just checking out your Mspace site and jamming along with the songs and reptile seems a little off standard.
    Are you guys hiring?

  43. avatar
    Melquiades | 9 February 2007 at 2:23 am #

    btw, patiently awaiting the delivery of El Momento Descuidado. mmm…

  44. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 2:25 am #

    {i would like each commenter to be as honest as i am and post a comment rating themselves thusly
    can you do it?}

    Wow. Even after reading faithfully for over a year now, I’m not sure I ever really realized how much you put yourself out there for everyone – till today. I found this exercise difficult when I honestly sat down and thought about it.

    Thank you for inspiring me to some introspection….
    envy 5 (I envy almost everyone…)
    anger (passive aggressive, very passive) 4
    lust 3
    gluttony 3
    sloth 3 (maybe this is linked to the “passive” above?)
    avarice 2
    vanity 2

    – krishnamike

  45. avatar
    Queen Hatshepsut | 9 February 2007 at 2:27 am #

    Steve,
    Wow, I miss one day and look what happens! I hadda go back and read the idiocy and boy was I sorry I did.

    Envy:*
    Anger:************* (really gotta work on this one)
    Lust:*****
    Gluttony:***
    Sloth:*
    Avarice:***
    Vanity:**

    I also don’t make my bed, I return books and movies late, I speed on the freeways, I curse like a sailor sometimes and demand my cats let me have a small portion of the bed at night. 🙂 Oh and I admit it, I watch too much TV – especially being in school all day. I just don’t want to think. Over and out.
    love,
    denise
    xxoo

  46. avatar
    ...being here, doing this... | 9 February 2007 at 2:28 am #

    According to The Picture Book of Devils, Demons and Witchcraft, by Ernst and Johanna Lehner, each of the Sins is associated with a specific punishment in Hell.

    Pride – Broken on the Wheel.
    Envy – Placed in freezing water.
    Wrath – Dismembered Alive.
    Sloth – Thrown in Snake Pits.
    Greed – Put in pots of boiling oil.
    Gluttony – Forced to eat live rats, toads, lizards and snakes.
    Lust – Smothered in Fire and Brimstone.

    YIKES!!

    I think I’ll focus attention on my good qualities instead!! (one never knows Who may be reading this!!)…

    Humility **
    Kindness ***
    Forgiveness ***
    Diligence *
    Charity **
    Temperance **n a half pint
    Chastity **

  47. avatar
    indigoruby | 9 February 2007 at 2:44 am #

    Envy:***1/2 (green-eyed monster is alive and kicking. Needs work)
    Anger:***1/2 (have improved, but am fairly easily irritated and impatient, especially by people who are passive aggressive!!)
    Lust:****
    Gluttony:***1/2 (recently have done some work on this one. Have a diabolical sweet tooth.)
    Sloth:*(more likely to be a perfectionist.)
    Avarice:**(mostly for stuff other than money)
    Vanity:***

  48. avatar
    letango | 9 February 2007 at 3:23 am #

    Infected at this moment:

    envy **
    anger****
    lust**
    gluttony*
    sloth
    avarice*****
    vanity ***

    Cumulatively over my lifespan
    (as in which ones have held the most sway):

    envy **
    anger*****
    lust***** (and then some)
    gluttony*
    sloth
    avarice** (maybe three)
    vanity *** (maybe less)

  49. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 3:27 am #

    Dear anonymous

    Thanks for your recipe of fish with a piste’ of turd on top. Yeah well your probably right in all you say, you seem to know your stuff. But hey, there’s a saying.. Play hard die young? Naaah, play hard die old. I’d rather die younger (whilst The Church are still together) than die old having lead a boring tasteless life of unexiting fodder.

    No offence whoever you are, but to me, being vegan would be like doing without sex. Which I am that too by the way..

    P.L

    Auckland

  50. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 3:30 am #

    ..Oh, and I knew this guy who was 150% vegan, never smoked, never drank, ran 10kms a day, Went to bed at 9pm. Only masterbated and never had sex to remain pure. he was more organic than the purest unadulterated peach.

    Then, one day he walked out onto the road and got flattened by a fucking bus!!! Can you believe that??? No? Neither did I, but it could happen.

    Being pure, then smokin the weeeed.. may as well eat them radioactive Fray Bentos Steak n Kidney pies in a tin.. and smoke the weeed as well.

    P.L

  51. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 3:50 am #

    Ok, now i know to throw chocolate on the stage next time. Throwin Jag might make a mess

  52. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 3:54 am #

    I’m a bit confused with this exersise Sir. Ya see some years back I had a series of misfortunes which rendered me homeless. I slept in parks ,hung out with hobo’s and I was visited in the night by angels and lost spirits. Thoughout this period my score on all the 7 deadly sins went very low indeed. I aged rapidly and let me tell you a total loss of vanity is not a pretty sight.(it smells a bit too) Strangley though at the same time by eyes took on a clarity I had never seen before. This clarity was often noted by others and it also seemed some people were quite spooked by it. (or perhaps it was the smell?). Whatever it was it seemed to put everyone off giving me a job anywhere. Slowly however I managed to crawl my way to normalicy and as I did my score on the 7 deadly sins increased. My eyes lost there unnerving clarity as my bones regained there flesh. Earning a living and gaining employment became easier and easier till today I have the luxury of visiting blogg sites from a comfortable apartment. After years of celibacy I now have a girlfreind too. Though most of my deadly sin scores have returned to normal range I still hide my low scores on some. These are..
    ENVY. A lack of desire for the things others have is totaly against the grain of capitalism. Keep it to your self . allway fake a bit of envy (not to much)when people talk of units sold , units gained or social status.
    LUST. My girlfreind has a bit of an issue with my lack of. The plumings fine and I was granted some reasonable quality hardware. It’s just that I dont want to be a full time plumer anymore. I’m interested in other stuff and too much pluming makes me sleepy leading to sloth. Again I keep this to myself. I always make sure I let loose an occasional Phooar! or something if i’m out with me mates.
    ARAVICE. I’m not ready to give what i’ve got away yet though I don’t really want any more material things. Tecnicaly I dont own much but I have some wonderfull corri mates who’ve shown me some different perspectives on all of this.. Land ownership is an oxymoron. Kind of like a flea thinking it owns the dog. As Ben Elton noted in Stark. ‘Owning a swiming pool is a physical luxury but owning 100 pools is just an abstract concept. I prefer to swim in the ocean anyway, much to some people’s anoyance it’s free.

    Yeah I know . All this philosopising comes undone when you have to have your teeth fixed.
    I’ve been putting it of for years .
    Mine arn’t to bad for an ex hobo though.

    Daniel

    Ps. Sorry for my crap spellin but i’ve got to rush of to work.

  53. avatar
    (('{~_~}')) | 9 February 2007 at 4:05 am #

    envy **
    Youth, beauty, wealth …

    anger ****
    It’s genetic!

    lust **
    I’ve been with the same person a long time!

    gluttony *
    I also love chocolate

    sloth
    Nah, too busy for that!

    avarice *
    I’m mainly happy with my lot. A little bit more wouldn’t hurt though.

    vanity *****
    Well, yes…..

  54. avatar
    Letango | 9 February 2007 at 4:15 am #

    P.L.

    Your argument is a little like

    “We all gotta die sometime, so might as well keep smoking these cigarettes!”

    No? Did I misread it? And, so the vegan got hit by a bus. You blamin’ the ganga? It’s not clear.

    What is clear to me is that yes, we all gonna die someday, but best not be while slowly drowning in fluid from the lung cancer.

    I’ve heard drowning can be peaceful and lasts only a few minutes. But as you might guess, it’s nothing remotely peaceful when it happens slowly over months and they radiate the hell out of you. And, my grandpa hated the breathing tube– doesn’t feel comfortable in your throat and it reduces your voice to an impotent raspy, thready wind.

    I’d rather have quality of life until my very last breath over prolonged suffering. When it comes to having quality of life and quality of death, probability favors eating healthy and doin’ ya exercises and havin’ a practice (in which case if all else fails maybe ya at least go with peace of mind/spirit).

    I’ll place my bets on SK’s model, thanks. And, if I were you, I’d reconsider.

  55. avatar
    Tony Pucci | 9 February 2007 at 4:21 am #

    an honest self-appraisal of my 7 Deadlies?

    Hmmmmmm…out of a possible 10 stars each:

    envy ** ‘n a half
    anger******
    lust********
    gluttony*****
    sloth***
    avarice**
    vanity **

    …but I’m trying more
    than I used to do
    to be a better person
    so that’s a start

    haha, despite me email newsletters
    i score low on avarice
    those emails and thus cd sales
    are more about trying to recoup
    some of the money i’ve invested
    musicos are always
    in the red
    in the hole
    day late, dollar short

  56. avatar
    ambnt1 | 9 February 2007 at 4:46 am #

    Steven,

    I went back and read yesterdays comments, and only found one I’d consider nasty and written by an idiot, and that was the “Donette/Karin” comment (no wonder it was anonymous). You ask, “Why do the commenters write what they write?” You speak of respect. Then you compose an angry retaliation blasting some non-specific commenters, to the point some worry if they’ve unknowingly offended you. Is this a blog or a chat room? I don’t think there was much to react to. I think your anger is off the charts (an 11 out of 10). It doesn’t feel like there is respect here. If someone’s joke isn’t funny to you, if somebody slags the BJM, why take it so personally? Why let it spoil the party? I think two worlds (the blog vs. the comments) are colliding and they should be separate. I’d much rather read about the positive stuff in the SK universe than the negative. Anyways, as small as my contributions are to this blog (financially and via a daily comment), could I ask that you please rise above the idiots and just ignore them?

    –Chris

    n.p. ambient (what else)

  57. avatar
    Sunshine | 9 February 2007 at 5:02 am #

    (out of five)

    Envy **
    (I appreciate that which I have, but would be caught in a lie if I said I’ve never envied anyone else or their lot in life. I do not envy SK, but admire his talents and, as someone else said, “enrich my life” with the appreciation of same.)

    Anger ***
    (esp. at people who can’t drive, but not at life in general or just for the sake of being angry. I try not to waste my energy with anger. So much to do, so little time.)

    Lust ****
    (Yes, though happily married, I do still lust (from afar), most of it is lust for my spouse, though. I’m married, not buried.)

    Gluttony **** (would be a five, but I’m working on it)

    Sloth *** (also working very hard on this)

    Avarice **
    (I try to only do jobs I enjoy (if I’m lucky), and although that usally means less money, I only need enough to keep bills paid plus a bit more for fun money. I believe this reduces stress/anger considerably.)

    Vanity *** +.5
    (Yes, I’m a bit vain. Very shy, though and not into being center of attention at all. I could never be a “star.” I’m ordinary folk.)

    ~Sunshine

  58. avatar
    syrinx | 9 February 2007 at 5:39 am #

    LUSTLUSTLUSTLUSTLUSTLUST
    VANITYVANITYVANITY
    Sloth Sloth
    Envy
    avarice
    anger
    glut..

    Sin #1 is well-contained, but still beyond what is called for. Sin#2 is connected with Sin #4. Sin #3 makes me experience most of #6, pointed directly towards myself. Not that I don’t have my excuses, mind you. Some of them even maybe reasons. #5 – I’m downsizing right now. #7 – the FDA is trying to kill me, you know. 😉

    Fire and the wheel. Fire and the wheel.

  59. avatar
    captainmission | 9 February 2007 at 5:47 am #

    envy*(those dickhead guys that always get the girl)
    anger**(possibly more self directed but these days theres a lot to be angry about, i mean whats so fun about fundementalism)
    lust********(sigh….girls)
    gluttony***(ice cream)
    sloth***(side effect from eating ice cream)
    avarice*(i desire material things)
    vanity**(i’m fat ugly and bald and my teef are falling out)

  60. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 6:05 am #

    anger ****************
    dissed friendship = hollow camaraderie

    lust *************
    just part of the spectrum of love
    i disagree with god not coexisting here

    gluttony ********
    for punishment
    i shoulda known i’d be painted as the devil
    but lucky for speedy metabolism

    vanity *******
    but wish i was gorgeous

    envy ************
    hideous trait
    v. envious of your talent
    and that others deemed more worthy

    avarice **
    if i lost all that i have, which is alot, i would get by on family and friendly love

  61. avatar
    galamor the wizard | 9 February 2007 at 6:07 am #

    Just got El Momento Siguiente and I think I like it even better than Descuidado. Love the slight swing of a piano Reptile and RAGA ROCK RULZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!….Tantalised with Tamboura…ORRRRRRIGHTTTTTT!!!!! Can we have more Tamboura in “normal” Chruch albums please???!!! I remember that in an interview in…mmmmm…1981(?) you were espousing the virtues of “All things must Pass”. Despite being a huge Beatles fan, I had not heard this album as I was only 17. I then went out and bought it and have had GREAT pleasure since introducing it’s charms to anyone who would listen. (Never got the chance to thank you for that.THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! ) Since that time, I have been patiently waiting for more overt G.H. Indianisms than just sitar guitar on Autumn soon to grace a Chchur record. Next time, can Tim play tablas, Peter a harmonium and Marty a Sarod too????

  62. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 6:12 am #

    P.L

    I know my facts.

    I agree with Letango. Not a clear argument at all.

    Kilbey is a great example of living life to the full. He has an amazing life and family AND manages all of this without touching a traumatised piece of cooked corpse.

    If we were all like Kilbey, the world would be a better place.

    BTW, “people who pig out on pig…man you can see it’ – this is SO true.

  63. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 6:12 am #

    envy
    anger*****************************
    lust
    gluttony?(I either feast or fast-I call that balanced eating)
    sloth*****
    vanity*
    avarice

    I consider myself a generous and kind person with a very bad temper. I was born on the same day as Henri Dunant (founded the Red Cross) & President Truman (dropped the bomb on Hiroshima) — two individuals that just about sum up my virtue & vice.

  64. avatar
    Imber | 9 February 2007 at 6:34 am #

    outta 5

    envy *
    anger ****** (gotta work on that! 😉 )
    lust *****
    gluttony * (I have worked on this- I used to order
    5 courses everywhere I went! )
    sloth *
    avarice **
    vanity ***

    “people who pig out on pig…man you can see it
    all you wasted flesheating useless blobs”- wicked!

    X

  65. avatar
    trocapendapy | 9 February 2007 at 6:59 am #

    Live and let live all you vegetarian vigilantes!!

    It’s getting boring.

    Really boring.

    And repetitive.

    Really repetitive.

  66. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 7:07 am #

    I could rate myself into the next century…but I don’t think anyone really gives a fig whether I’m a 5 star sinner or not.

    I’m no better than the worst person here. That’s all you need to know.

    Honestly.

    B.Bon

  67. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 7:15 am #

    trocapendapy-

    Vegetarians do just that!

  68. avatar
    redpotty | 9 February 2007 at 7:16 am #

    My good karma hasnt been paying off lately. Evil ones grow stronger and stronger while I suffer.

  69. avatar
    captainmission | 9 February 2007 at 8:06 am #

    I guess its kinda hard to know what the goal posts are, i mean some people may be tougher on themselves than others, one persons 5 star rating may be another persons 1 star. i suppose there has to be a certain humility when rating oneself else its just as self delusionary as most other endevours or not, i dunno?

  70. avatar
    limebeaver | 9 February 2007 at 8:48 am #

    ooh i love these viewer participation bits!

    envy **
    why do those bastards have all that good stuff and not me?

    anger****
    it’d be a fiver if those pills didnt hold me back

    lust*****
    the media keeps telling me everybody else is always at it…. sigh

    gluttony**
    you can keep your choccies steve, give me a plate or 4 of proper italian pasta any day

    sloth*****
    cant be arsed with this

    avarice**
    only wanting more rare Church stuff

    vanity **
    does my bum look big in this blog?

    Gee, I don’t look too flash, best get me to the beaver therapist

  71. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 9:29 am #

    Envy – of everybody who’s not ugly or skint.

    Anger – about everything to do with myself and my poxy fuckin life.

    Lust – for women. Cos I’m so fuckin ugly and angry and skint that none will even look at me.

    Gluttony – only for music and books.

    Sloth – I am a total idle bastard, so I work constantly. If I stop it’ll take ages n ages to get moving again.

    Avarice – nope.

    Vanity – I was always fucking ugly, with a lousy personality and I went bald at 25, so nah, I’m well past vanity!

  72. avatar
    mtv | 9 February 2007 at 9:36 am #

    GREAT one today SK.
    I love it when you let those meatheads know what you really think of them.

    trocapendapy? “Live and let live” – PRECISELY!!! Carnivores bore me to tears.

    P.L? Here’s why you’re not gettin any – checked your stinky cat breath lately? Vegans don’t have bad breath because vegans don’t have flesh rotting away in their guts. As a vegan you’d also feel and look much better physically… but I guess you’ll never know..

    As for dr freud the other day.. don’t make me laugh bitterly! If anything’s a myth it’s that your bones are dependent on the milk of a cow! In Sweden they drink milk like there’s no tomorrow, yet it’s in Sweden that they have the highest number of osteoporosis sufferers. Also, did you know your national asthma council is funded amongst others by the pharmaceutical society? Now imagine if the pharma industry admitted that dairy products actually worsen the effects of asthma.. they could pretty much close their doors then and there! Obviously there’s no money to be made if you tell the public to stay clear of things that make you ill. So, keep on drinking that milk so we can keep on selling our asthma puffers!

    Back to you SK…

    envy*
    anger****
    lust***** (i’m lusting away as we speak)
    gluttony (yep, no stars)
    sloth (I REALLY don’t believe I’m lazy! Really!)
    avarice* (i want more money cos i really NEED more money)
    vanity** (woman, vanity be thy name!)

    I used to be a glutton once but got over it. As for chocolate, SK, unless it’s organic it most likely has a high amount of cadmium in it. In ayurvedic terms it also increases Ama because of its sticky, gooey nature, which in turn can leave you feeling less healthy and sluggish.

    x

  73. avatar
    eek | 9 February 2007 at 9:38 am #

    out of 5 *’s

    – anger **1/2 – most of the time I’m pretty easy-going, but occasionally I find myself almost consumed by anger at anything and everything. Fortunately it doesn’t happen often, but when it does it’s very disconcerting as it feels as if it’s someone else instead of me

    – avarice ** – Actually one I’m doing pretty well on. Would I like more money and certain material things? Sure, but it’s not a burning desire. I think if I suddenly came in to a lot of money, materially I would live much as I do now, but would help out family and friends. I know it sounds sappy, but hell, just how much stuff does one need?

    – sloth **** – A bad one for me. Yeah I need to get out and move a lot more than I do. But I have a freakish fear of any and all social situations, so even walking around my own block can be terrifying. You don’t even want to know how sick with worry I was for weeks before going to the Church shows last year. I did go damn it, but I swear the stress cut years off my life! I am working on it, but need to work on it more.

    – gluttony **** – Another bad one for me and connected to sloth. I like food and I especially like food when I’m stressed. A vicious cycle. I am working on it — doing the vegetarian thing and just trying to both eat better and eat less. Some days I do better than others.

    – lust ** – the above mentioned fear of people tends to keep that one more or less in check. Sigh. Even one of my better ones is pathetic.

    – envy *** – in addition to what I mentioned yesterday, I envy people who are confident and outgoing. I don’t wish then ill — I just wish I had that confidence too.

    – vanity *1/2 – I don’t have a hell of a lot to be vain about. However, it did just occur to me that upon posting this comment I will make sure to never, ever actually meet any of the rest of you in person (other than the couple I already have met). Too embarrassing. I guess that’s vanity. 😉

    Yikes! I got mighty chatty there. Sorry about that. I’m also thinking I should have done this as an anon, but where are the balls in that? I might be a chickenshit, but I’m not that much of a chickenshit. Guess that’s vanity too. Damn even my vanity rating is going up.

  74. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 9:44 am #

    “vanity **
    does my bum look big in this blog?”

    God that made me laugh!

    megan the vegan – you’re such an understanding tolerant person aint ya sunshine

  75. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 10:00 am #

    Hitler was a vegetarian painter.

    And a dictatorial fuckwit…

    Coincidence?

    Can I get on this blog and start preaching anti-jewish propaganda then, megan? Or how about a few anti-islamic rants? Would that be OK with you? Because you seem to be able to run at the mouth to an offensive degree about your particular issue, regardless of every individuals right to make their own choices about what they put intheir bodies. It ain’t illegal or immoral to eat meat. Your as bad as kilbey and politely…he’s a well intentioned no-hoper. He put fucking smack into his body for ten years so forgive me if I don’t follow his advice on nutrition.

  76. avatar
    Adolf | 9 February 2007 at 10:18 am #

    “So there we have it: Hitler doted on Bavarian sausages and caviar. Not even the loosest definition of vegetarianism could be stretched to fit these gastronomic abominations.”

    -http://libaware.economads.com/hitlernotveg.php

  77. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 10:36 am #

    SK,
    i love you man! it is always nice to see you “stir the pudding” a bit. it really seems to get some folks a tad worked up.

    peace brother.

    keef fooler

  78. avatar
    queen of sheba | 9 February 2007 at 10:50 am #

    anonymous 9:18

    Saddam Hussein ate meat too-so what does this say about you?

    Your argument is ridiculous.

  79. avatar
    kat | 9 February 2007 at 11:11 am #

    sk, i am wishful & sinful, & frozen. how’s that for a rating?

  80. avatar
    isolde | 9 February 2007 at 12:29 pm #

    regular shiatsu is really good for releasing anger and i have found as a result that it also cures the other vices as they are just attempts to ease the pain and fill emptiness, treat the cause and not the symptoms dear people

    another thing i would like to say is to captain mission because i met you once and i thought you were very attractive, no make that drop dead gorgeous!!

    not as gorgeous as the time being though, of course

  81. avatar
    Valentine | 9 February 2007 at 12:40 pm #

    envy**
    anger***
    lust*****
    gluttony****
    sloth***
    avarice**
    vanity**
    wow.. I guess that makes me an irritable lustful, gluttonous sloth!
    I didn’t post yesterday about envying the time being… I envy TB’s amazing intellect, musical genius, bountiful artistic talent and most of all… his youthful calves!!!
    xoxoxo

  82. avatar
    verdelay | 9 February 2007 at 1:46 pm #

    envy *****
    anger*****
    lust*****
    gluttony*****
    sloth*****
    avarice*****
    vanity *****

    A five star performance all around.

    I also score well on the virtues.

  83. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 1:58 pm #

    I still don’t understand why people who are hostile to SK’s belief system, which he makes quite abundently clear, continue to read the blog…is it a two minute hate thing? Can you not reconcile the man who wrote your favourite song, The Unguarded Moment, with a preachy vegetarian? Hey, that’s life, jackasses. Get your own Carnivores Society blog.

    Allister

    Anger is my sin of choice. I’ll see you guys outside.

  84. avatar
    jen | 9 February 2007 at 2:01 pm #

    yes, there is deinitley some anger on the time being….perhaps that’s why some choose to lurk.

  85. avatar
    gareth,notts | 9 February 2007 at 2:31 pm #

    When Younger:Envy:4, Anger:5(+ another 5,if i’m really honest)Lust:5,Gluttony:5, Sloth:4(have you lived in this shithole country in the winter?), Avarice:1.5,Vanity:4 Present Day:Envy:3, Anger:2.5,Lust:5(+ another 5 now!),Gluttony:1.5,Sloth:2.5, Avarice:3,Vanity:4

  86. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 2:32 pm #

    RIDICULOUS! The bloggemaster AND his drooling sheep.
    Another guy with a whacked sense of self talking shite. Pseudo-spiritual bullshit. I know meat eaters who have much more clarity of consciousness.

  87. avatar
    Malcolm | 9 February 2007 at 2:53 pm #

    envy ******
    anger*****
    lust*****
    gluttony**
    sloth*
    avarice***
    vanity *

  88. avatar
    mtv | 9 February 2007 at 3:05 pm #

    dear anonymous 9:00pm and 9:18pm,

    have I hit a nerve?
    Yes I know, the truth always hurts.

    You obviously don’t seem to realise that your habit of supporting animal cruelty is highly offensive as well(to say the least) to people such as myself. Imagine a mother whose child is tortured and abused and killed – wouldn’t she lash out? This is how I feel about every animal that has to endure the same violence and horror. Animals can’t fend for themselves, so it is only decent for human beings to speak up for them.
    Basically what you’re saying is that you’re allowed to offend me but I’m not allowed to offend you because that wouldn’t make me very, uh, “understanding” and “tolerant”??
    There was a time, not so long ago in fact, when it wasn’t illegal to mistreat women and sell black people as slaves, either! So whether it is legal nowadays to mistreat animals really has no weight as an argument anymore. It may still be legal, but it is hardly moral.
    And it is hardly a noble act to kill an animal for food when it is scientifically proven that a vegan diet is the healthiest diet for a human being, that a meatless diet is better for the planet, that a meatless diet will make you look better/younger as the body slows down its aging process due to significantly less free radicals being released. In light of all this evidence it is therefore utter madness to speak of the individual’s right to still eat animals.
    I’m as bad as Kilbey? I’ll take that as a compliment!

    Best wishes,
    your little *sunshine*

    PS: eek – “I should have done this as an anon, but where are the balls in that?” I laughed out loud! Great to see you’re doing the vege thing as well!

  89. avatar
    12str | 9 February 2007 at 3:05 pm #

    hmm envy!
    i envy you for the way youre able to express yourself in music,lyrics and paint..
    just got my copy of EMS in the mail…great new inputs on songs i love….envy you for that aswell..i wanna have a backcatalogue as good as yours…
    but my envy is a source of inspiration so i guess is not all bad…im struggelling with a new project..”cards of Johnston” just started to record some songs…envy you for TP what a recording genious….
    and i have to say SK,thanks for the effort your putting down in yer blog…its pure magic to read..
    gotta go to work…noones envy me for that!!

    peace

    P

  90. avatar
    Mega-Jason | 9 February 2007 at 3:24 pm #

    I’m still far too ENVIOUS* of you because my SLOTH***** keeps me from starting my own band and I blame my fancy suit job for taking up all my time, because I gotta have the MONEY***. This makes me ANGRY***** at myself so I just act like a big GLUTTON***** and eat fried pork and donuts until my VANITY*** takes a look at my fat self in the mirror and the cycle begins all over again…

    But, you say if I stop eating meat everything will be ok?

    PS. Don’t get me started on LUST***************

  91. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 3:52 pm #

    What was nasty about it?
    Don’t blame me – I only mentioned it, you’re the one that fucked em!

  92. avatar
    Melquiades | 9 February 2007 at 4:03 pm #

    MEGA-JASON, I noticed you are an overpaid CAD monkey. I work in mechanical engineering field myself. Your summary of the vicious sin-cycle cracked me up and its a mirror of myself in a lot of ways.

  93. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 4:21 pm #

    Re anonyomous hitler 9.18pm

    Re.”It aint illegal or immoral to eat meat”

    Sorry little hitler but I think you need to do some reseach on this.

    Most meat you buy anywhere is the result of extreamly inhumane and immoral farming practices.
    And just because it’s deemed legal dont make it right. I could give you many examples of barbaric practicises deemed legal by supossedly civilised societies but i’m sure you get my drift.
    As Pigging out on Pig has been discussed today I’d like to point out for example the plight of the inocent pig. A pig is a highly intelligent animal. Pigs are much more intelligent than dogs and perhaps even more intelligent than you?.
    So smart are pigs that it’s not possible to combat Australia’s ferral pig issue by trapping them. Many methods have been tried but the clever piggies usually suss out that it’s a trap. Often they work out how to dissarm the trap for good measure. I tell you if pigs had hands we’d have some serious competition.
    Besides intellegence pigs and humans are similar in many other ways. Were both Omnivores. were both very social, We both have strong nurturing bonds between mother and child. Contrary to popular myth Pigs are extremly clean animals. In fact pigs and humans are so geneticly similar that pigs hearts are now sucessfully transplanted into humans. Cannibal New Guinea tribes call white people Longpok which translates directly as Long Pork. Why ? We have longer limbs but we taste the same. But you know what!. Even cannibal New Guinea tribes treat there pigs better than we do!. If a pig escapes slaughter they dont imedietly hunt it as they respect that the pig has outsmarted them.
    So how do we treat our intellegent, clean, loving pigs?. We keep them there whole lives in disgusting indoor cages so small they cannot turn around. There forced to live and sleep in there own shit day and night. Actually they dont have day and night it’s just fluro bulbs. There not even able to turn around and look at there young much less nurture them. Soon after birth the young have there teeth ripped out in front of the mother without anaesthetic. When it’s slaughter time the pigs know it and howl in terror and for the loss of there love one’s. Many a piggery worker has been haunted by this sound and quit the buisness. I’d say there the sane ones. It’s not uncommon for abitoir workers to become totaly desensitised people killers. Often police can catch them by the knots they use. There was a new case in Canada the other week. I wont gross everyone out with the details but he was a pig farmer. Imagine we had the hoofs and the pigs had the hands. Now imagine your the pig in the cage. If you still think it’s moral to treat animals like this i’d say your as sick as that Canadian pig farmer.. If you want to know more on the plight of the pig you can check out http://www.savebabe.com

    Re. “Your as bad as” “well intentioned no-hoper” “smack in body” bile bile ect ect

    Firstly some drug issue someone might or might not have had has nothing to do with the ethics surrounding the meat industry. But even if what you say is true I tell you it’s one hell of an amazing cat to come back from a ten year(?)addiction and do what SK is doing. Whats more it clearly brings joy to a lot of people which is a lot more than can be said of you.

    If you really think vegetarians are no-hoper dictatorial fanatics perhaps you should check out an interesting statistic from Mensa.
    Mesa is a long running non political organization that only includes people in the top 2% of IQ scores. The percentage of vegetarians amongst mensa members is much higher than the general average. There was some which came first type debate on why this is so. It was generaly concluded that whilst vegetarianism dosent make you smarter, smart people choose to be vegetarian. They weigh up the ethics,the pro’s and con’s and choose not to eat meat.

    I’m not a Mensa member and I cant even spell. But even I can see it’s a bad scene.

    Sorry about the unpoetic long winded rant everyone. It’s not the usual me but someone had to say it.

    Perhaps we should all agree to not respond to these pig munching bad vibe merchants.

    Peace Everyone

    Daniel

  94. avatar
    CeciliaGin | 9 February 2007 at 4:24 pm #

    You know, it’s amazing that even in this small community we can’t get along. We wonder why there are wars, people hating each other on a GLOBAL scale, yet here we are. Maybe 300 (200? 100?) of us at each other’s throats?
    None of us are the wiser.
    Everyone wants the last word.
    Someone should produce a reality show base on our sad lot, then we’ll be sorry.

    Cecilia

  95. avatar
    craig1.618 | 9 February 2007 at 4:46 pm #

    to all my fellow vegetarians out here in the time being……….we shouldn’t waste our time retaliating against meat-eaters……it’s obvious they are gonna do what they want and they will defend meat-eating until the bitter end….i’ve talked at family gatherings about the atrocities of meat-eating but they never listen……..they’ve always got an excuse…probably always will….so now i just mind my own business during these gatherings…..i’m just glad that i saw the light a few years ago…….and without any pressure from me, my wife became a vegetarian too…….perhaps influenced by my example…..now, we can’t imagine any other way for us…….we both feel so very blessed to have become vegetarians and feel that it’s brought us a new vision in life…….everything seems a lot clearer now…..all our questions now have answers……….and what a glorious thing it is

  96. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 5:07 pm #

    I WISH SOME PEOPLE HAD THEIR OWN MINDS !

    PIED PIPER of OZ ! BOLLOX !

  97. avatar
    leelinau | 9 February 2007 at 5:56 pm #

    wow.

  98. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 5:59 pm #

    …hope fades…

    Chela

  99. avatar
    Anonymous | 9 February 2007 at 6:02 pm #

    I guess i believe i’m all right.
    and no, i didnae send you any of me hard earned scratch…or did i?

    My shelves of cd’s get real wide in the CH and KIL sections of the Alfie-bit. Woke up this morning and looked in the mirror and saw a Solemn
    pup standing and surveying a pyramid,staring back at me from me chest.

    My green vinyl 7″ for reptile,
    Oh ad nauseum….

    I hope i give you encouragement
    when i get the time.
    I just want ya to keep on keepin’ on.

    Lurv und kisses from the den of the glynnis

  100. avatar
    persephone2u | 9 February 2007 at 6:14 pm #

    It’s heartening to read the posts of all the brilliant vegetarians/vegans out there and to know that so many people are thinking about what they’re putting into their bodies and aware of the atrocities being committed daily with factory farming and slaughterhouses. I highly recommend the John Robbins book “The Food Revolution” to everyone here. It was an eye-opening read, to say the least.

    So about those deadly sins…

    Envy **

    Anger* – Fortunately anytime I get angry it is over and done with 10 minutes after I feel it. I’ve never been able to hold onto anger or bad feelings. It’s not good for the soul or your karma and being happy is a much better feeling.

    Lust*** – I blame Simon LeBon and John Taylor for this penchant I have for English male rock musicians.

    Gluttony* – Unless we’re talking stilton cheese or something incredibly salty I’ve never been a glutton.

    Sloth*

    Avarice**** – Money is a nice thing and who doesn’t like it? As long as you’re happy without money you can be happy with it also. 🙂

    Vanity ***** – My worst sin. By far.


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