posted on October 1, 2008 at 8:30 pm

feeling inexplicably melancholy
not gettin’ any younger neither
mal-come tern-balls is everywhere now
i see destiny is really fixed
my mother could see it in 1972
my mother said steve, that boy will be p.m.
such was his sense of will and purpose
you think my mother ever said that about any one else?
yes, mum
it was obvious
and i knew it in my heart of hearts
just like i knew in my heart of hearts
the road that i would go down
now mals everything to everyone
alluding to his possible jewish roots
in the heavily jewish eastern suburbs of syd
which is his electorate
so…hes jewish and catholic….ok?
telling people bout his poverty-stricken past
(bullshit mal….you had a posh dressing gown in 72, remember?)
(hell…i gave up my room for the night for him)
admitting to smoking dope
(a dangerous drug!)
but now he laughs it off…a ha ha ha
i remember sitting in some hippy shack
with mark s in 1980
we were smokin’ mother (fuckin’) nature
and moaning about pots absurd illegality
i said the politicians of the future
the ones who are our age now
will legalize it because theyve done it…
and mark shook his head and said no
they’ll be the same as the ones now…
and he was right
the paradigm is created
everyone adheres to their role
and me……
i dont know if i want old tern-balls as p.m.
sometimes i think i do
sometimes i think fate can not be resisted
i admire the way hes played the game
he’s been repressing an awful lot of blind ambition for a while
can you imagine wanting to be a prime minister?
the ego
the gall
the discipline
the fanaticism
and yes
unlike our current vacuous twit
(i told ya so)
who lucked into the job
mal has had this coming down the tube his whole life
what amazes me is the certainty of it
his certainty
and the others who saw it too
tern-balls will destroy rudd
and go on to an illustrious career
only death will defeat him once he is in
or his own willingness to go
such is the hand he is holding!
mark my words
sorry to bore my non aust readers
but this is an exercise in addressing fate and manifest destiny
i’m still fiddling about with music
imagine if in 1981
someone showed me a crstal ball
and i saw myself standing there playing unguarded moment…still
oh please
unlike tern-balls
i have no real will
i cannot persevere
my fate is all clouded
i’m playing the olde stuff still
i can write songs but i cant get my life together
my weaknesses attract bad luck and mediocre results
i’m doing my best stuff
but i keep getting dragged back to that old place
aint it incredible
i make painkiller
and people wanna hear unguarded moment?
it de-motivates me
someone give me a fucking grant
im a fucking genius and i need to work
apart from the grunt and hustle of dirty money
give me my stipend and my house
and i’ll knock out music and poetry as good as it gets
and i’ll work harder on my paintings to bring em up to speed
i dont know what to do with myself other than that
i feel like i betray myself constantly revisiting this olde tripe
the muse dont like it and neither do i
its a waste of my ability
i should be working on my first total exhibition
you walk in a room a gallery an installation
and it really is kilbeyworld
which is where you wanna be
aint it?
the sights
the sounds
the words
i can do it all
but i neeed time and fucking money
and i cant ever get myself gigs
people have to come to me
i can’t sell myself
thats just the way it works
dont ask me why
i loved brian altres review of painkiller
thank you
it re-motivates me
i love to have it explained to me
what i have done
and brian n stefans reviews were both enlightening
painkiller is a fucking beautiful brutal record
it should sell millions
and i could do the things i want
but but
thats who i am
all those buts n howevers n if only he hadnt…
hey hey
i’d rather be playing music than working in a factory
so am i lucky
or unlucky?
if you have a car accident but survive
are you unlucky coz you had the accident
or lucky cos you survived?
the truth is
that inside me is a very talented geezer
and also a complete fucknuckle
who blows opportunities
and fritters away his time
i cannot manage myself or steer myself
i have never rung around and booked myself gigs
i cant
its not modesty
its just ….
anyway 3 gigs fell outta the sky
oct 7 in glebe at word in hand
then 14th at the annandale
then the 18th at manly boatshed
i dunno how these will go
i cant see a lot of people attending any
and i will be de-motivated again
i’m doing em cos my fambley needs the money they may make
but not necessarily cos i wanted to…
me with a guitar isnt me in my best form
i need to have a bit of a production and smoke machines
or whatever
i dunno
what the hell am i raving about today
and the stock markets crashed
which puts the fear of god into all fambley men, dont it?
i’m on telly sat night 10 pm
kev carmody special
see stevie jive

94 Responses to “thats that”

  1. avatar
    don joe | 1 October 2008 at 10:03 pm #

    force yourself to smile, and you’ll soon find something to smile about. Force yourself to laugh and you’ll soon find something to laugh about. A being creates his own feelings.
    The greatest joy there is in life is creating; splurge on it.
    If you say it’ll be bad, rest assured it will be. A bleak uncretain future? Coming right up per request. Steve, what you say and decide today will roll out in front of you. You can write amazing music, create beautiful artwork, write magnificent prose. You cann book gigs, you can earn the money you need. Just get out there and promote yourself. Make yourself known, get onto the communication lines that you have and just tell them. I am here. I do this. You need me. I will make it all worthwhile for you. Then just go and do this. Produce and or present it.
    No more uncertainty.

    don joe

  2. avatar
    Anonymous | 1 October 2008 at 10:11 pm #

    I think you might have missed the point don joe. He’s an artist, not a fucking salesman.

  3. avatar
    Anonymous | 1 October 2008 at 10:15 pm #

    Hey Steve,

    Keep making records on your own and with the Church and whoever else you want to work with. Don’t look back.

    We love the stuff you did in the past, but we love even more what the future holds.

    Keep motivated man. The music on Painkiller is inspiring and brilliant.

    You are so far ahead of the competition it isn’t funny. No one is doing anything like you.

    In terms of money, I understand that it must be hard to make a living out of it.

    All I can say, is that I will buy your music and let everyone I know of the great body of work you have produced.


  4. avatar
    restaurant mark | 1 October 2008 at 10:21 pm #

    “the truth is
    that inside me is a very talented geezer
    and also a complete fucknuckle
    who blows opportunities
    and fritters away his time”

    wow that should be on my tombstone!

    hey man…don’t get down cause you’re having to play unguarded moment, utmw, etc.
    great songs…and a testament to the church’s longevity that people still want to hear them. also represents the connection the band and the songs have made with the ones who love your music. those and of course many other great church songs have become part of the soundtrack of our lives. and besides, it’s not like you’re out there touring with no new material and just living off the back catalogue. or there’s new stuff but it doesn’t have the magic anymore. quite the opposite…in my opinion forget yourself, ultc, and back with two beasts are three of the bands finest records. then there’s painkiller, which everyone seems to love too…can’t wait to get mine! so there you have it…my pep talk, uplifting bullshit. i’m not telling ya nothing you don’t know already…

    take care steve and everyone

  5. avatar
    isolde | 1 October 2008 at 10:41 pm #

    being professional like you were for the djs launch would have been the best advertising you could have done, and to a pretty good audience by the sounds of it, just cos they were talking wouldn’t mean they weren’t listening, its word of mouth that really does the trick in terms of getting more bookings down the track, and I have found that most women I speak to aged between 35 and 50 who liked you in the eighties are still really interested in you and you haven’t flogged or overexposed yourself, you know its frustrating though in this country, there are so many talented artists doing other day jobs, it’s a pretty unusual and good achievement that you are managing to do what you do at all

  6. avatar
    the dean | 1 October 2008 at 10:54 pm #

    Unfortunately the status quo is maintained by pigeonholing people in time – Sk=church=oldsongs=lost youth for some straighto. Why would any artist choose to do the past when art is about creating the future.
    As for predestination, I cannot believe, the future is untold and in my version turnbull falls just when he is so near.

  7. avatar
    Anonymous | 1 October 2008 at 11:04 pm #

    SK, you and Mal con tent; two totally different paths – adjacent lines that once crossed early in the piece. Admittedly the need to support the family financially is real; most of us have to put off a bill at some stage or say no to something we want/need or live in a more humble home than we would prefer…. but what I read at TTB is about a family man who adores his girls and is THERE with them – priceless; and a man who makes an honest living creating works of art in music, prose and on canvas that are brilliant. The people here, subscribers like me and other friends – LOYAL we love you. Mal will have to watch for knives in his back all his life.
    As I go to my fourth chemo today – it will be you and the boys I will turn to for an uplift not some spiel spouting pollie – let it go sweet and be happy with yourself.
    Big loves,

  8. avatar
    heather | 1 October 2008 at 11:17 pm #

    turnbull pm? nah….my bet’s on Claire Martin, ex Chief Minister of the Northern Territory, who’se just slid in to Sydney.

    Too much ego will be mt’s downfall…like mark latham’s handshake that sent him down. If Costello decided to step up mt would be a feather duster.

    What I see in the promotion ranks of the public service is that the higher up the ladder you go, the more talking, talking, talking you do – on interdepartmental liason working groups, steering committees, review boards…blah blah bah. And most of it has no outcome. That wednesday night tv show, The Hollowmen, is a reasonable indication of the way it works – spin doctors and votes drive the system.

    You couldn’t do what pollies do; it aint in ya; nor could they do what you do (laughing as I imagine it)…they would fail; where you have not.

    The world is unfair. Mediocrity and blandness rule. I love those lines Kevin Spacey’s character says in oh, is it The Shipping News ? – “Everbody lies, good guys lose, and love does not conquer all”. Then he smiles and lives his life.

    I guess you/we have to feel lucky that no-one’s putting you/us in jail or assassinating you for being who you/we are. We are all in the wealthy minority of the world, free to wander beaches, honour the muse, and choose what we eat.

    I think you got a bit of the comedowns eh …you’ll be right…speaking of which, I was in a snit once and put on comedown really really loud and did air drumming….got the Rock’n’Roll cure!

    Have great day and a fabulous swim.


  9. avatar
    Kclone | 1 October 2008 at 11:41 pm #

    No matter what happens, you know there are many of us that appreciate your work. If you ever do tour the U.S. again, I will pickup the hotel tab in Minneapolis, MN. Can’t speak for others, but I would not be surprised if they did the same to help out in the other cities you may visit.

  10. avatar
    steve kilbey | 1 October 2008 at 11:44 pm #

    dear kate
    you facing the chemo so bravely makes me feel like a fool
    blathering on about my (mynah) woes
    all my love and good wishes
    hope you beat the bastard thing soon!

  11. avatar
    Anonymous | 1 October 2008 at 11:50 pm #

    Steve, just do the gigs & do your best , it's only 3 nights.
    The boatshed will be a bit of a challenge tho.
    Its like a north shore version of the Manzil Room.

    Dutch Pierre

  12. avatar
    melissa | 2 October 2008 at 12:03 am #

    i absolutely agree with everything Kate said 🙂 Exactly what I was thinking..

    love to ya :)xxxxx

  13. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 2 October 2008 at 12:33 am #

    I’m very aware of Turnbull’s very unimpressive record as environmental and water resources minister or whatever it’s called. His ideas were denounced by “green Experts” for exacerbating global warming and for being ecologically ruinous. He does appears to have enough confidence and charisma to advance very far and viably to the helm.

    Thank’s for the Australian political update. Looking good for Obama in America at this fragile economic juncture.

    Best wishes to Kate- an inspiration incarnate.

  14. avatar
    princey | 2 October 2008 at 12:38 am #

    Yep, all it takes is a comment like Kate's to make us realise our "problems" aren't as tragic as we thought doesn't it. So thank you Kate, you sound like such a lovely & positive person, you WILL beat it and get better, all the best to you!
    Sk, you really need someone like an "Eek of OZ" to be your manager and get the word around, you know so many people, there must be someone that can help you out????
    But I know it's easier said than done.
    Love Amanda
    P.S. Eek thanks for that link to Vogue…the man in black, HUBBAHUBBA!!! 🙂 sk pleez wear that black panther shirt when you play here in Dec prrrrrrr

  15. avatar
    eek | 2 October 2008 at 12:53 am #

    i have no real will
    i cannot persevere

    Bullshit, Steve. Complete and utter bullshit.

    You see what you haven’t accomplished. You see the things you’ve screwed up. You see the people who have accomplished everything you think they want. But Steve, your life — I won’t say career because it’s more than that, it really is your whole being — is absolutely a study in perseverance and drive.

    Yes, it’s true that you suck, absolutely suck, at marketing yourself, especially to a mainstream audience. And sometimes you show an almost shocking lack of self confidence (which is a big part of why you suck at marketing yourself). Yet you push relentlessly toward the vision you have for your art and your life, and you’ve done it for decades. You make art that you believe in, that you have to make, not art you think will sell. And it’s fabulous stuff too — and continually getting better!

    So many people have this romanticised view of the impoverished artist, but it’s tough and wearing and grittily real to have to scramble to pay the bills and support your loved ones when what you are driven to create isn’t the frothy stuff that sells easily (I hear you say “no shit, eekie”). I often wish you were able to compartmentalise what you must do to survive from what you must do to thrive, so that you were able to more comfortably do, and maybe even enjoy, the “pay the bills” gigs and then put that aside and hop back into your real life where you continue to expand your artistic boundaries. It would make life so much easier for you. But I suspect you wouldn’t be the person you are if you could do that.

    I’m incredibly proud of you, Steve, I think most of us here are. I’m so proud that you keep pushing ahead and that your current work to my ears and eyes and heart just keeps getting better. Malcolm Turnbull may very well reach the pinnacle of his profession, but he’ll never touch people’s very hearts and souls the way you can.

    Kate — sending loads of positive vibes your way.

    And here is the link Amanda noted to the Church in Australian Vogue.

  16. avatar
    matt davison | 2 October 2008 at 1:03 am #

    I just dont get it killa… Up there is trying to tell ya to let go of all that stuff!! I could not imagine a better life than yours.

    Even just from the creative freedom perspective. Many a man have killed for the chance to create a life like you have.

    Imagine anything else, and then wonder how long it would take to long to be back where you are.


    all the best Kate

  17. avatar
    matt davison | 2 October 2008 at 1:04 am #

    ps* Turnbulls pretty average man…seen the goofy big ears hes got

    makes me laugh!!

    what a gripper

  18. avatar
    steve kilbey | 2 October 2008 at 2:25 am #

    thanks for the pep talk

  19. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 2 October 2008 at 2:26 am #

    That’s a very intense rugged picture of Sk in Vogue. Now I understand the appropos nickname Killer.

  20. avatar
    Hellbound Heart | 2 October 2008 at 3:31 am #

    good to see you amongst the beautiful people in vogue….i don’t know if i’d give many of them the time of day, really…
    as for your self-doubt and negativity today, i and lots others know that your music and artworks and poetry are billiant and enduring things…you have persevered for a helluva long time with your vision and dreams and i am really grateful for that…so you need money, hell, that’s the way the world works sometimes, unfortunately, and we do what we gotta do to get by…
    i am in admiration and awe of what you do, steve
    love always…

  21. avatar
    Mr. Argent | 2 October 2008 at 3:59 am #

    Hey SK,
    I sincerely have to say your vision is truly special and holds a lot of meaning in my universe.
    When faced with similar states I can’t help but think of Mr. Byrne and;

    “Water dissolving…and water removing
    There is water at the bottom of the ocean
    Carry the water at the bottom of the ocean
    Remove the water at the bottom of the ocean!”

    ********happy, healthy vibes for Kate********

  22. avatar
    captain mission | 2 October 2008 at 4:07 am #

    errr let’s see, that’s tronics radiotronics not phonics as in radiophonics. okay i think i get it.

    mmm my childhood fear of daleks seems to have left a huge imprint. i still get freaked out when i see a plunger.

    radiotronics mission tronics!

    i’m sure the surf will sort out your malaise, it’s wild this side and a bit messy, like being in the washing machine. i just threw myself in and the cold water seemed to kick start the day, well, i kinda felt like i was alive.

    best wishes kate

  23. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 5:45 am #

    fucking hell…is that Grizzly Willson-Piper in the background on the vogue shot…

  24. avatar
    mahatma kane jeeves | 2 October 2008 at 7:14 am #

    cheer up olde chum, i’m being credit squeezed to such an extent that my nuts have popped off.

  25. avatar
    Great Zimbardo | 2 October 2008 at 7:29 am #

    Remember what a stuff-up Mal made of the Republic campaign? OK it was stuffed even before it started, but it didn’t seem much effort was done to contradict some of the weird panic-mongering the monarchists came up with. Mal just stood there and looked smug and turned everyone off the whole shebang. As if he believed he’d win the day with bullish charisma.
    While he and his ilk inspire little more than disgust, your works enrich our lives.

  26. avatar
    persephone2u | 2 October 2008 at 7:30 am #

    No one should be upset about the stock market now. It’s the best time to buy! Apple stock is looking particularly good at the moment hovering at just over $100 a share. Just $1,000 worth of stock in the late 1990’s would have netted ya $40,000 now, so think about the future and enjoy the downturn.

  27. avatar
    kat | 2 October 2008 at 7:47 am #


    this is a little long winded and i apologize. i'm wide awake, got a ton of stuff on my mind, and its cold here in cincinnati already.

    you get down so easily, and i can be the same way. you have accomplished so much yet i dunno if you will ever be satisfied because you are always thinking something fell short or you need to cover more bases, do more, more, move ahead.. wish i had a tiny bit of your achievement. my writing is not bad but what to do with it? all of us here could probably agree we don't have even 1/4 of the skills/talent you have!

    everything always feels so temporary yet forever its wierd. i need a job but no cc companies will hire me to write or carry on. side note: not one of my fave church pictures. you guys look bummed in a wierd way. i know, who cares, you may be thinking..

    i was driving home yesterday morning after being stuck in traffic not far from here, feeling like i wasn't getting anywhere (i'm not), and when i got home i got an email from my oldest niece carolyn, who is pregnant, due in february and recently found out her baby boy has CDH (congenital diaphragmatic hernia). despite this,she has started a website for her husband michael's nephew, if anyone would like to read:

    when i saw the pic of michael playing mini guitar (and he can, his whole family is musically gifted) to brycen i felt so foolish & humbled in my own turmoil. perspective, i say.

    & then, reading about kate.. >the BEST to you kate, you are a brave and wonderful soul. pulling for you!!!!

    sorry i rambled, i am trying to give everyone a pep talk here, including myself. i gotta have more faith. & motivation.

    peace all

  28. avatar
    Hellbound Heart | 2 October 2008 at 8:34 am #

    kate and kat…
    love and goodwill your way, guys…

  29. avatar
    Hellbound Heart | 2 October 2008 at 8:39 am #

    sorry, steve, over using my quota of comment space…see you’re holding what suspiciously looks like a ciggy lighter in your hand in the vogue photo…was the photo taken pre or post spliff????

  30. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 8:45 am #

    Steve, this ain’t fanboy asskissing but you really ARE the greatest Renaissance man of your generation and you DO need an income – but you don’t need a govt grant: that’d be like Turnbull giving you pocket money!
    You said there were around 800 regular readers of this blog – a buck a week from each and you’d be fine.
    Maybe it’s time to revive your idea of making TTB accessible via subscription?
    A dollar a week would make fuck-all difference to anyone on here – but it’d make a world of difference to you.

  31. avatar
    isolde | 2 October 2008 at 9:18 am #

    sk if you seriously want a grant try for an Australia Council Music Fellowship, $45000 per year for two years

    Fellowship grants provide artists with financial support for two years for creative work and/or professional development.

    Fellowship applications are invited from artists with a record of outstanding achievement and who are well established in their field.

    apply before June 2009 to start project November 2009

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 9:39 am #

    Don’t let kilbey fool you, he’s fucking loaded. Bondi beach, rolling in the money

  33. avatar
    just so you know | 2 October 2008 at 10:10 am #

    The above was not by me (ex-wag).

  34. avatar
    Cita | 2 October 2008 at 10:14 am #

    You are everything to everyone here. Just ignore the anonymous pranksters who bring bad karma on themselves. Better to be a true clouded being than a pompous fraudster. My Dad is excited about MT for PM… oh no Dad. It sent a chill up my spine to see my Dad praising MT so I felt the inevitable as well. It is funny how those who have a strong idea of themselves create a whirlwind of energy that so many find hard to resist. Advertise your gigs here in blazing lights it is the perfect place. Kilbeyworld sounds like alot of fun I wonder how you would conjure that one up. Could you start in the shed out the back? Could you start with poetry readings? The last couple of days I have been printing cards on my dining room table.

  35. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:19 am #

    kilbey made 50k+ on the credit card gig. More than most of us make in a year.

  36. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:22 am #

    can you believe there is somebody in the world referring to himself as ex-wag? Jesus I can die happy, i’ve seen it all

  37. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:28 am #

    A note for brien comerford, we fucking get it. you love animals. you believe in global warming (although all scientific data points to the exact opposite conclusion). you believe in gore and obama. Whistle a new tune for a change, your fucking act has grown so stale. Fucking kool-aid drinker. I bet you hate george bush to you fucking commie, now fuck off mate.

  38. avatar
    davem | 2 October 2008 at 10:32 am #

    SK, I adore what you do. So many of us here have so much to thank you for.
    Much love to Kate and Kat.

  39. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:47 am #

    No fear comerford, restaurant mark will take a break soon from washing dishes at the macon georgia waffle house and come to your defense soon. Let me guess mark, work at the restaurant by day, play in a band with your dungeons and dragons buddies at night. Then matt davison will chime in about how he and kilbey are personal buddies and mention his acting gig from back when unguarded moment was a hit. It actually hurts to be this perceptive

  40. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:50 am #

    Ah, the psycho awakes…
    You can always tell when the prescription’s running low and he’s having to eek out the remaining pills til the new scrip’s due, can’t ya?

  41. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:51 am #

    Once again I would like to state that none of the comments from above were made by me. My only infatuation is with ricky maymi. Yours in love, (ex-wag)

  42. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:53 am #

    We actually have anonymous taking a stand against anonymous. Very paradoxical. Hang in there steve. Keep on rocking my man.

  43. avatar
    emphasis on the 'ex-' | 2 October 2008 at 10:54 am #

    Hey, whacko, $50,000 divided by 4 is $10,000 AUS for each Churchbloke. That’s about £4700. A welcome addition to the funds, but hardly a fucken fortune.

  44. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:56 am #

    That’s $10,000 apiece AFTER expenses, dummy.

  45. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 10:59 am #

    I humbly apologize, only $10,000 for a night of playing. I could see how the kids could go hungry on those sort of wages.

  46. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:07 am #

    I would like to set the record straight. I am the ex-wag and I am frankly embarrassed by the new wag. Piss off new wag and leave the wagging to me. Is nothing sacred?

  47. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:12 am #

    It is not more than I make, no. And, unlike our intermittent whacko here, I don’t have to deduct prescription charges or medical insurance either.
    Y’know, nutjob, to say you slagged me off for saying ‘ex-wag’ a few minutes ago, you’re now impersonating me! You should really take the tablets, boy.
    And now, I reckon we should all do what Steve suggested and let the halfwit stew in his own brainbilge.

  48. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:16 am #

    So you make more than that but have the time to be a wag on steves blog? What sort of work are you involved in ex-wag?

  49. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:17 am #

    I said piss off new wag and take your medicine. I am the true wag and do not appreciate what you are doing psycho. what a nutjob you are new wag. I don’t even have the time to make up clever sign in names responding to you.

  50. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:20 am #

    Once and for all I would like to apologize steve, I am the “ex-wag” and have no association with this new whacko. I will keep my comments to ricky maymi from here on out. Very sorry about the confusion. I don’t care what you make, you are worth every penny. Restaurant mark et al. It is not the ex-wag here. Well it is me now but not the other comments.

  51. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:21 am #

    Any time you see fucknuckle you know it is really me the ex-wag because that is what you say steve and I am a true fan. Not like this new fucknuckle

  52. avatar
    scargill | 2 October 2008 at 11:22 am #

    Stocks and shares?!
    Capitalist running dogs!

  53. avatar
    verdelay | 2 October 2008 at 11:33 am #


    anyway, back to today’s theme.

    fate? Yes, but it’s a complex web with just enough give in it for you to think it’s not there at all.

    mal turnbull? kev and co would have to royally fuck things up for mal’s lot to get their hands back on the reins any time soon.

    …but there may be enough give in the web…

    art vs money? well it takes real talent/luck to nail both of these to your mast, and even then you tend to sink…after being fleeced by the straights, Bowie only really started making money in 1982… let’s dance, indeed.

    as i’ve rattled on about before, i’ve divorced the two strands in my life – art and money. i’m a librarian by trade, and i teach university students how to critically evaluate information so they can see through the bullshit that bombards them daily. i consider this a fairly honourable calling. there are lots of people here who are also doing worthy things, too, so i feel i’m in good company. i’m also a writer, of sorts, but i can’t devote nearly as much of my time to it as i’d like (due to the pressures of my trade), and i’m continually dissatisfied with my artistic lot. but at least i can do what i like with it, with very little compromise in what i do apart from the time i spend doing it. there are very few people who are aware of my artistic pursuits, but those who do follow my work provide applause enough to keep me going. and the library pays the bills (and buys my mandolins).

    i have nothing but admiration for people who can combine their craft and their crust with such integrity and considered action as you have demonstrated over several decades. it’s a difficult juggling act, by all accounts. i was too fearful to even toss the balls into the air…


  54. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:38 am #

    Hey verdelay, “pressures of my trade” your a fucking librarian! does anyone here have a clue about the real world. A fucking librarian relating to steve kilbey the genius? wow! Is your real name marion, marion the librarian?

  55. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:41 am #

    Look in your local bookstores for verdelay the writer’s new bestseller, “the dewey decimal system a pictorial history, pros and cons”

  56. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:46 am #

    Bowie did make millions in the 70s – but Tony Defries (allegedly !) siphoned it into the running of Mainman. 50% of all Bowie’s earnings went to pay the running costs of Mainman – Defried paid nothing from his share of the songwriting profits (yes, Tony and his descendents get a share of all Bowie’s Mainman-era songwriting royalties, in perpetuity !). The final kicker was that Bowie didn’t own a single share in Mainman and so didn’t get any of the profits made by the company – Defries owned 100% of Mainman.

  57. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:49 am #

    Much like our sage steve kilbey. True genius does not translate into business acumen. ashame really. Trusting con-men. Fuck it all.

  58. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:52 am #

    Recently defries lost 22million plus in an offshore account. Karma?

  59. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 11:55 am #

    I am the true ex-wag and I reside in sheffield uk

  60. avatar
    don joe | 2 October 2008 at 12:00 pm #

    to dearest anonoh-mouse 8:11….whether u r promoting a book, an album, your bad breath or a penis pump, u can’t just sit back and hope some mysterious thing will make you rich through fate. U have to promote it regardless of what it is or no sucka’s ever gonna see it, right? If Steve just kept to himself in his bedroom with his 4-track, would I be here writing this answer to your ignorant dull headed response?
    Maybe you need to read the first half of my post and do that chump 😀

    Whatever Steve got for the AMEX gig he deserves it and the rest he will get.

    don joe

  61. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:04 pm #

    don joe, put away your motivational tapes and get back to humping your sister

  62. avatar
    restaurant mark | 2 October 2008 at 12:05 pm #

    oh new wag…no hobbies yet huh, i mean other than being rude of course. think i should’ve voted for the old wag on second thought…at least he tried…even if unsuccessfully at times, to throw some humor in. just curious, but…does ALL scientific data point to no global warming??? really? that’s a pretty big umbrella you got there. and i’m assuming you’re a george w. bush fan…cheney too? why? curiosity again…
    oh, and for your info…seeing as how you said ya didn’t know anything about me. well, i do live in macon…but although i’ve enjoyed some late night drunk/stoned meals at waffle house, i’ve never been an employee. my wife, friends and i all met and got to spend some time with steve at a sushi restaurant in atlanta…so when i signed on here i used the restaurant mark so he’d recognize who i was. some more info…i’m partners in an industrial painting company with my bands singer, matt…and as far as i know i’ve never played dungeons and dragons. there…now you can be accurate with your insults. carry on…

    take care

  63. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:11 pm #

    so you are in a band eh mark? I was pretty close with my guess actually. i bet you also play base. i’ve passed through macon ga, not a big enough town to even take a piss in but best of luck to you in your house painting…oops, partnership in industrial painting business

  64. avatar
    restaurant mark | 2 October 2008 at 12:11 pm #

    best wishes to you kate…


  65. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:16 pm #

    Also, restaurant would naturally make steve think of you and the sushi. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad

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    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:38 pm #

    i wish you health,and peace,Kate…it’s a shame that such a”clever new wag”does not have the same composure,and dignity”with which you have shown,…..and the kindness that Steve shows toward his fiends.good night are embarrassing yourself.peace n love to you all{including the new wag,and especially the “ex-wag”whom we all thank for your funny input.

  67. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:39 pm #

    Steve, please turn the anonymous’s off again, this is just tiresome. This is not a discussion forum for godsake, it’s a blog! We realise you need feedback, but this is out of hand

  68. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:40 pm #

    Incredible, a message from me the ex-wag to me the new-wag. I hope everyone likes my new incarnation.

  69. avatar
    Sharka | 2 October 2008 at 12:40 pm #

    I think there is many millions left in the old cash cow The Church, yet!

    Could the greatest double CD of all time be made out of The Church back catalogue? I think so!

  70. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:56 pm #

    n well?i s’pose…THAT’S THAT!;D xo

  71. avatar
    marco | 2 October 2008 at 12:56 pm #

    Yes, Steve, it’s time to block the anons again. Easier than having Russell delete this fool’s comments every day. Hope the post-corporate downer dissipates soon.

  72. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 12:59 pm #

    Ok, once and for all I would like to confess. It is me the ex wag from sheffield, I made up the new wag which would hopefully make everyone appreciate me the ‘Old-wag” which I actually put alot of effort into. I have been hateful and spitefull and next time I come to post I will take the time to at least make up the funny handle names. Don’t turn off the anons’ steve, i will cease at this point. Just wanted everyone to appreciate the old me.

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    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 1:02 pm #


  74. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 1:03 pm #

    Wasn’t it “ex wag” not “old wag”?
    Can’t even keep ya lies straight, can ya, douche bag?

  75. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 1:07 pm #

    Why aren’t we taking the time to make up new clever handle names? The ex-wag defending his ex-wag status, this is cracking me up. Of course I am the ex wag and the new wag so I win both ways. Come and visit me in Sheffield. Very nice this time of year.

  76. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 1:28 pm #

    Take a hike wag from sheffield. I got this off of the blog information.

    13 Sheffield 1:23:47 am 16 155:47

    155 consecutive minutes on the blog, get a life sport.

  77. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 1:42 pm #

    I suspect some hacking and a stitch up, myself.

  78. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 1:45 pm #

    Christ on a bike some of those bickering annony mice are a bit tiresome.
    Lets concentrate on more important things.Like Kate.The good vibes generated by all the fiendss will undoubtedly give you a rapunzel like do overnight.
    Is Marty trying to challenge Warren Ellis for the most Ned Kelly like beard in rock ? Good work in progress thus far.
    Steve I find your attitude to the prospect of a few acoustic gigs a bit puzzling.Where is the bloke from the live in en zed dvd from just a year ago who did such a convincing job of giving the impression of a bloke in his element actually enjoying himself ?

  79. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 1:54 pm #

    baal and zeus said…
    e.m. forster = the great machine…
    right? it has to, else you guys are brain buddies
    he called his “the machine stops”

  80. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 2:10 pm #

    10 years ago this week, I started at university. The soundtrack to my first semester was Hologram Of Baal. Since then, I’ve played HOB every fall. This year, it resonates even more.

  81. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 2:21 pm #

    yeh, the earlier shit smacks of some dick tryin to set up a fall guy to me. i say turn em all off, stevo.

  82. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 2:34 pm #

    “The car wash had been transformed into a retro petrol station to signify the full service David Jones offers with its new American Express credit card. All guests received their own piece of black and white plastic but the gifts were forgotten when iconic Australian band The Church took to the stage”.

    Sometimes journalists do manage to keep it straight. I mean, bohemian. It doesn’t matter, it’s not a black or white world like Michael Jackson alive can prove us. Characteristics, ethos, backgrounds, desires, callings and aspects intercommunicate bulding this huge solid brick-like paradox we’re in. Your pursuit of Truth is such a romantic saga and it turns your art into something even more thrilling (and for a few because few are willing to get into such a battle) but romantic Neptuness has never been very fond of profits. Anyway, that’s okay, you’re looking pro-fit, you live near the sea which is your element, you’re in The Church but transcending The Church (talk of spotting body language in a Vogue pic), putting yourself up front again (I saw it coming before the pic illustrated it) and heading to the Painkiller great gig (not talking about necessary gigs to provide daily needs) because after such a spiritual gig like The Church, you just need a very effective and HUMAN prescription: Painkiller. We’re all trying to fight the pain, after all.
    Best wishes to Kate.

  83. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 2:43 pm #

    All the best, Kate.

  84. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 2:50 pm #
    try me on for fall

  85. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 3:01 pm #

    Neptune. Yeah, there’s something Kilbeyesque about that.

  86. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 3:27 pm #

    Hey Steve,
    The big download is coming. It’s the change you’ve been waiting for. Hang in there. The next 7 years will bring it. Uranus Pluto square.

  87. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 3:29 pm #

    BTW Steve, I think your best work is from the last 5 years. I hardly listen to anything else.

  88. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 3:42 pm #

    You’ve got some esoteric beliefs, Steve – what ARE your thoughts on astrology?

  89. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 4:14 pm #

    Hey Steve,
    Painkiller just arrived this morning and that’s great news!!!

  90. avatar
    Anonymous | 2 October 2008 at 6:16 pm #

    Wow. So there’s a fellow astrologer here, very good. Very interesting insight too. I’d be happy to provide a translation of this “Uranus Pluto square” to Kilbey but maybe it’ll get too personal, I’m always reticent to dig deeper into someone’s Astrology chart and transit (the ongoing movement of planets above one’s chart) especially in public. But maybe I can talk about it in general terms later if I have the time. Oh dear Saturn, I pray to thee, give me time, give me time.

  91. avatar
    John | 2 October 2008 at 6:17 pm #

    “painkiller is a fucking beautiful brutal record”

    I am being patient…not going to harrass my mailman yet…

    John Garratt

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    steve kilbey | 2 October 2008 at 8:21 pm #

    i got 3 grand for the gig
    the church paid off some debts
    and put some aside for next year
    postscript postscript
    my dental work
    (my front teeth are busted) will cost 2400
    the aggressive bullshit on my comments
    saddens and bores me
    nice work!
    now why dont you go away, you nasty ninny!!

  93. avatar
    davem | 2 October 2008 at 9:09 pm #

    Got my Painkiller last night and have played it 6 times already.
    Awesome stuff.
    I'd leave the anons to keep posting SK. It only takes seconds to plough through them. No big deal & it's nice to read all the genuine stuff that would otherwise be lost.
    Take as many of those gigs as you can find palatable. You, nk and the girls deserve some security.

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    bezepae | 3 October 2008 at 8:01 pm #

    A person, I believe named Kate, offered to put up a hotel. I’d be very happy to help flyer the town or whatever you need if you come to Seattle. Dunno if I can do the hotel but perhaps some of my scholarship money might be in round that time. Cheers!

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