posted on December 7, 2008 at 7:24 pm

aw i’m getting old n cold
i’m slipping out of the charts
i cant pull a crowd
i cant take a fucking trick
where am i going wrong?
i got nothing
no authority
no sell-a-bility
no presence
no profile
no mojo
no oooomph
muddling along
everyone switching off
like lights in a city at dawn
the more i try to prevent it
the faster it happens
a losing streak
like a poker game where i cant even get a pear
i sit n stare at my cluttered desk
a packet of nag champa
it says warning
INSIST
FOR
THIS LABEL
TO AVOID
IMMITATION
BUY FROM
REPUTED
DEALERS
ONLY
gee i hate grammatical n spelling mistakes
on packets, menus, billboards etc
like in a cafe a sign says : smokers this isle only
a sign at ice bergs : swimming conditions idyll
phew
at least that got me outta my funk
i mean
complaining about your falling ratings
dont help the ratings go up
its like waving your hands about
as you go down in the quicksand
(and i aint got the power, anymore)
its hard when things go wrong
but you never learn anything if you just win
except how to be a good winner (but most never do)
winning is just there
as a contrast to losing
cos you gotta play every part
some people seem to never lose
but you dont know what goes on in their hearts
today doing an interview w/some guys in here
will have to clean it up….sigh….
have lists of things to do
mundane troublesome things
this n that
figure out how im gonna do it
knuckle down, knucklehead
get humble , numbskull
apply some elbowgrease (yuck)
put on yer thinking cap (makes me look silly)
pull up yer socks (the elastics a bit stretched)
turn over a new leaf ( i need a new tree)
smell the roses (an aphid bit me)
pull yourself together (mr humphries)
the show must go on
and on
and on
apparently
i once said to a colleague
you think youre right
and the rest of the world is wrong!
he said I AM !
and oh
for that kind of naked belief
because i’m floundering around here
in this sea of nescience
sick of all my dips
dismayed that the hoi polloi
cant dig my groovy trip
surrounded by philistines
n phools
pressure pushing down on me
pushing down on me
so hard
casting swine as pearls
getting it all mixed up
a right old jumble
woe is me alas alack boo hoo
maybe thatll knock me back up the charts
a mercy read
an open letter to the universe:
i’m ready to roll a double six

55 Responses to “the cracks become quite clear”

  1. avatar
    isolde | 7 December 2008 at 9:06 pm #

    she’ll be right mate

  2. avatar
    the dean | 7 December 2008 at 9:12 pm #

    I don’t know how you get up the pop charts as it’s all youth and the next new thing even if it’s recycled again and again since the 60s.
    But the blog charts – just give someone or something a right royal rollicking and the masses repond in droves, except for the senitive new age(which is old)philistines like myself.

    Popularity or the ragged finge of polite society?

  3. avatar
    ticktockclarice | 7 December 2008 at 9:44 pm #

    I know where you’re coming from with the signs thing. The food shop that i work in advertises out front that we have “a great range of deserts.” Yeah, the Mojaves are rather slow movers but the Saharas sell like hotcakes!
    And far be it for me to lecture you in your own blog, if you want to use it to piss and moan that’s your business, but i get just a teensy bit annoyed when you seem so dismissive of the massive contribution you’ve made to the artistic world and still make and which is very loyally and avidly followed by a devoted group who may not number as much as they once did, but i think one Steve Kilbey fan is worth 1000 Acca Dacca ones any day. I’d say a lot of your fans have reached or are approaching mid-life crises without ever having realized their artistic dreams or feeling like they’ve put anything worthwhile out there and they struggle with that.Now you can suck it up and sell out and write big stupid songs about rock and roll and testicles and make a mint or you can continue to have integrity and make beautiful art that you are proud of and which is greatly appreciated even if you sometimes fail to realize it.
    Ok, end of rant. I’m such a nagging bitch. no wonder my kids hate me.

  4. avatar
    princey | 7 December 2008 at 10:20 pm #

    Yeah ticktock made a good point sk, alot of us out here are approaching mid-life crisis point and haven’t done/experienced/seen a millionth of what have over the years(I don’t think a list is needed here, we all know!). I’ve always wondered what it must be like to have so many people around the world interested in what you do and say, to have so many people love you and encourage you to continue what you do so well. I’ve never had that and never will have that, probably a handful (or two) of people love me in this world (and most of them are related, so have no choice haha!). I suppose it’s hard for us norms to know what it’s like to have once been rich’n’famous like you were, and then to not have it, only you know what that’s like, so I guess there’s no point trying to tell you how you should be feeling. I just hope you continue to get inspiration from that special place and do what makes you happy sk. (sorry ’bout the long comment sk, someone like u could probably say all this in a few lines…get it?!)
    Luv and happiness to u sk,
    Amanda

  5. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 December 2008 at 10:32 pm #

    Man, you can’t keep on doing the same old things and expect things to change or be different. Why try and engage with the world so much? retract, retreat for a while, detatach. Yr got yr art, why can’t it be quite for a while? Why does it have to be about grand statements all the time? Yr got yr family, ya got the ocean. Like you say get humble!.
    The curse of the artiste is that you are only interested in what you are doing right NOW, the past, bah, try and enjoy this moment and the creative dilemma in front of you. I know money is a big fucking drag and your dubious ‘bankability’ is fleeting at best but life shouldn’t be a struggle (feel free to puck now)…it’s a quite stroll down a a sunny path in a forest clearing.

    Lecture/rant is over now, and I know it’s really, actually directed at myself,..just need reminding every so often.
    PV

  6. avatar
    Anonymous | 7 December 2008 at 10:36 pm #

    I’m curious about Jamie West-Oram (from yesterday’s blog)
    I don’t remember him (or The Fixx) being mentioned here before. They’re another one of my favourite bands, I must have missed that blog.

    Sorry to hear you’re slipping from the blog charts, who really cares about those things anyway?

    -C

  7. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 7 December 2008 at 10:40 pm #

    Sk’ got the literary virtuosity to ascend back up the blog charts. Like it or not writing about controversial topics work’s best because it’s evocative and provocative.

    Meat Is Murder
    Israel or Palestine
    Five Favorite Church Albums
    Five Worse Church Albums
    Lennon or McCartney
    The most overated bands in the world.

  8. avatar
    Queen Hatshepsut | 7 December 2008 at 10:44 pm #

    Yep. Count me in on the mid-life crisis; 40 did it – how cliched I know!! I’m 41 and still in it -yawn. Where is the life I thought I was going to have???? Ha!

    Not to dismiss your feelings SK – because they’re yours and you have every right to have them…but alas, if only I could have 1/1000th of your talent(s), charisma, etc. If only I could have traveled and seen the world like you have…sigh…

    Do you ever wonder what would happen if you got what you wanted?

    Let me tell you, the cliche is often true – be careful what you wish for. I got something I wanted so badly and it turned into a nightmare from which I am still recovering – physically, emotionally, spiritually.

    It’s human nature I suppose to want more, to want to succeed in different ways. Truly you must know and rejoice in the profound influence you have over so many people around the world. I don’t know if we could fill up the Staples Center or Madison Square Garden – but I would hope our supreme admiration of you could fill just a tiny spot in your heart.
    love,
    denise
    xxoo

  9. avatar
    kat | 7 December 2008 at 10:47 pm #

    ya, sk. i pretty much agree with pv. and that goes for me too, i gotta make some changes when i don't really want to. but as amanda said, the whole world is having trouble right now. individuals, artists, economics, blah blah. blog ratings are really just a pin prick in the ass of time, to be honest. lots of times people read but they don't have anything to say or got their stuff to work out/on. we all want and need attention. sometimes i read yer stuff, & if i have something to say, cool. if not, then oh well! be happy with what & who you have.. and hell, if you can't be, or even if you can, try for the double sixes. & blow on the dice for more luck. yahtzee! πŸ˜‰

  10. avatar
    fipster | 7 December 2008 at 10:51 pm #

    Did you notice they messed up your Painkiller cover? Somewhere along the line all the whites in your painting were dropped out and show as the background color–black. Most noticeable in all the eyes, especially yours. Doesn’t look like this happened on the back or inside images.

  11. avatar
    matt davison | 7 December 2008 at 11:16 pm #

    I ve lost ten kilos @ the moment can’t eat can’t think…mate you know!! I ve reached the corner of the road that leads to the cliff…that falls away over the sun..

    So I get it..
    I ask for peace..
    I pray for us all
    Sk just look at your wife and children

    That’s where you will find peace.

    LV

    Md

  12. avatar
    lily was here | 7 December 2008 at 11:29 pm #

    How about a hug?

    O

  13. avatar
    Hellbound Heart | 8 December 2008 at 12:05 am #

    bullshit, steve…i think you’re wonderful, so there….
    do you know what gets on my goat? people who don’t know how to use apostrophes correctly…..
    love always…..

  14. avatar
    knot | 8 December 2008 at 12:40 am #

    steve kilbey said…

    i’ll tell ya if you promise to cover it, knot

    How does that saying go? “Chocolate, Champagne, promises you never intended to keep?”

    But it might amuse you to think of me as an heiress, in a far away land, with a wealthy compulsive attorney as a husband and plenty of disposable income. Should I buy a new pair of 300 dollar shoes? Or perhaps become a noble patroness of a struggling and gifted artist?

  15. avatar
    melissa | 8 December 2008 at 1:19 am #

    I love everyone’s comments so far today πŸ™‚

    SK, no matter how sucky life can get, at least you’ve some wonderful people behind you, encouraging you, like Amanda said πŸ™‚

    You’re pretty blessed, in my estimation πŸ™‚

    xx

  16. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 1:31 am #

    SK

    Maybe you could resort to the ‘Satriani’ method and remix one of your songs over someone else’s

    otherwise don’t be so hard on yourself – we all still think your a legend !

    DR

  17. avatar
    veleska1970 | 8 December 2008 at 2:05 am #

    amanda hit it right on the head today. and like denise said, i’m fast approaching mid-life and i look back and wonder where the hell all the time went~~all that time that i had to get my shit together, and now that time’s running out, i still don’t have it together. my life feels like such a waste sometimes.

    you’re not a freak, steve; we all look for validation and acceptance. we all want (need?) to know that we are worth it.

    lotza love….

  18. avatar
    Freddie | 8 December 2008 at 2:07 am #

    (fingers crossed)
    double six
    double six
    double six…

  19. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 2:15 am #

    you just needs the meece back.
    so here we are sending love from afar, back in olde north carolina.
    i think ,sk, that you belong in the south.

    r.

  20. avatar
    Mr.Ricky | 8 December 2008 at 2:36 am #

    Don’t worry, things are about to get interesting again!
    X

  21. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 4:30 am #

    the sun is up yet Im tired

  22. avatar
    lily was here | 8 December 2008 at 5:29 am #

    Disturbing the vibe – exciting news for anyone in Perth who missed out on those sold-out Triff tix:

    “A limited number of tickets are currently being released to The Triffids at Beck’s Music Box.

    Time is short, so get your fingers dancing to Festival Info on 6488 5555 to book tickets now! Please note bookings are limited to two tickets per person.

    In a never-to-be-repeated and highly personal performance, The Triffids celebrate the memory and musical genius of singer-songwriter David McComb. Joined on stage by some very special guests, they break out classics like ‘Wide open road’ and ‘Bury me deep in love’.

    Fri 20-Sun 22 Feb, Beck’s Music Box”

    Oh yeah ‘special guests’ – that would include a certain Mr Suave Kilbey and Mr Kool Cat Maymi.

    xOx

  23. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 7:04 am #

    kilbey, the world is full of wankers and wallies, why dontcha just focus on mother nature – she’s honest and inspirational and neverending!

  24. avatar
    davem | 8 December 2008 at 7:21 am #

    Ah, Monday morning.
    SK…we hang on your every word, dream of the next release!
    Love you Sir!
    x

  25. avatar
    Leelinau | 8 December 2008 at 7:25 am #

    Well I for one must have
    heard the call..

    [randomness abounds]

    or would that be considered
    coincidence

    OOh, typo’s suck.
    Just found one in a listing of mine. awkward. haha

    xoxo ^__^

  26. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 7:52 am #

    nobody knows man,think left go right and a million more take the middle…change of venue fella…some time somewhere else back here in the states maybe..let us have you for a while..a year or so youd be writing and painting other things..tapping into the multiverse..

  27. avatar
    ross b | 8 December 2008 at 8:07 am #

    hey steve, I hope that double six gets rolled soon, thrice over!!

    Kinds & bests, r.

  28. avatar
    EDD | 8 December 2008 at 9:27 am #

    Oh, Mondaymorning. Would you be doing a blog where people could, more or less, communicate directly with you if you were famouser and more rich? I would live out in a cottage in a beautiful pasture. Going into town only once in a while to get basics. Apartment living sucks. Do you live in an apartment? I once lived on the road. Nuthin big but I felt like a rockstar once in a while. I’m glad I have a base now, though. Family, my own place, gotta work but hey. It’s ok to revel in that time. What you got now, though, I bet is pretty cool. You could do a Syd Barrett and just drop out completly. Please don’t.

  29. avatar
    steve kilbey | 8 December 2008 at 9:27 am #

    deaer reeders
    thanks for kind wordies
    sk

  30. avatar
    EDD | 8 December 2008 at 9:38 am #

    Oh yeah, Blog charts? There are those? I thought artistes didn’t worry about such things. I wish I had written just one hit single that generated a couple thou a month. I don’t care. It could have been called “The Stoopid Song”. You know. The kind that pops up on stoopid movie sound tracks and was the only “good” song on the album. I got a phriend whose family bought a piece of land and, years later, they found oil on it. He gets a check every few months for a couple grand. What a life!!! You must get sumthin from Milky Way.

  31. avatar
    isolde | 8 December 2008 at 10:11 am #

    I like how you are accountable and talk to us

    artists who hide behind their agents are a dime a dozen

  32. avatar
    verdelay | 8 December 2008 at 11:35 am #

    The ones who don’t lose have never played.

    We mustn’t confuse or conflate a downward turn of the cycle with something else (like ‘age’ or ‘the zeitgeist’); we turn the crank, we do our service, we watch it unfold before us…

    we win
    we lose
    they listen
    they don’t listen
    they love it
    they shrug their shoulders

    Whatever it is, the arrow is shot, we can’t alter its course once we’ve loosed the string. This is the autumn moment: was the summer good, is the harvest bountiful? No? Well, no good sowing the seeds now: they’ll be nipped off by the first frost. We just have to wait

    (but age, time, the time ghosts…)

    We just have to wait. You know this – you taught it to me. I’m just reminding you, auld wise king:

    Stand down your armies
    Mothball your chariots
    Beat your (s)words into ploughman’s lunches

    Our Lady loves an airy mind, not one filled with fires and troubles.
    Rest this season out until another season takes hold, as it will. As it must.

    v

  33. avatar
    matthew | 8 December 2008 at 2:25 pm #

    You’ll be ok, SK. Ok?

  34. avatar
    seoigh | 8 December 2008 at 3:07 pm #

    It isn’t you, killer — it’s the state of the music biz. People who spend 8 hours daily watching cable TV literally don’t have the time to listen to music. The result? Look at what IS on the charts — in America, at least. High School Musical. Dreamgirls. American Idol contestants. It’s all stuff from TV. If you don’t exist on TV these days, you don’t exist. The only musicians making it work are doing it by working much, much harder. Even if Painkiller is the best music you’ve ever made, it’s just not the market for it. Finish a Church album and sell it with the passion of an 18 year old busker. It’s simply the only musical path you have. That’s this musicians opinion, at least.

    And try not to get too down. Your music is very important to a lot of people out here. That’s quite a special little corner in this universe that you’ve got, after all. Be proud of it.

  35. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 3:24 pm #

    Killer, you told us about reworking part of Fall Away for Already Yesterday; was the vocal melody of that demo song My Idea (or You’re My Idea or Ideal or wotever) reworked for Like A Ghost?

  36. avatar
    Freddie | 8 December 2008 at 4:00 pm #

    Painkiller is sweet nectar from that other place.
    In a future time others will wake up and be able to drink it.
    Don’t stop and don’t get discouraged.
    Please…

  37. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 6:00 pm #

    Look SK, all the warm and fuzzies in the world aren’t going to pay your bills and right now your only concern is (and should be) keeping that roof over the heads and food on the table of those little ones of yours. If my career was not comfortably supporting me then I would go the coal mines, or flip burgers (sorry) if I had to. I would do whatever it took to keep my family’s needs met and safeguard their future.

    Now you are both blessed and cursed by being a talented and cerebral artist. Unfortunately artists such as yourself don’t make money in this dumbed down world of ours. And I don’t see that changing in the foreseeable future. I think you see that now yourself as well, which explains the mood. Now I’m no artist, but I do know a thing or two about how to make a little money, so for what it’s worth let me give you some advice:

    What people want today is a soundtrack for their lives. Right now, the poeple that have and spend money on music (their soundtrack), also spend the majority of their time in the following things: malls, sporting events, cars, tv/movies/internet.

    Now, think about “older” artists, like say, Phil Collins. Big money through his days, yes? Horrible music through his days, yes? What does he do now? Does he sell singles? No. Is he still making money hand over fist? Hell yes he is. How? Simple, Disney soundtracks. Kids see the movie, buy the DVD, hear the song, gotta have it. Go to mall. Buy the CD. $$$ for Phil Collins, and he did NOTHING but write the song. No promtion, no touring, NOTHING but write some lame song that kids could digest, something you could concoct just singing in the shower.

    Did you know that kids today buy t-shirts for bands they never even listened to in their life? Then AFTER they wear that t-shirt to school does the interest start to spread. But not about the music…about the image! Next thing you know, all the kids are wearing the different iterations of that band’s t-shirts without hearing a single note. Evetually someone deicdes to look up the music on iTines, listens to it, buys it, and before long all the kids gotta have it. $$$.

    Look at the band MGMT. Great music. Actually, yes. But how did they make it big? Playing sweaty college halls back in the day? No. Super promotion? Hell no. They did by getting their song ‘Time to Pretend’ on a mall store soundtrack (the new radio of today by the way, OTHER than Radio Disney) for Aeropostale. Kids heard it while shopping, saw the video on the big store screens, thought it was cool, looked it up on youtube and iTunes when they got home, bought the music, $$$. They signed with a big label.

    So the fastest/easiest formula is simple. Pick a genre. Alternative mall music, pop mall music (dance beat), country, whatever. Write some sinple, feel good songs with a memorable chorus using the instruments/techniqiues of that genre. That part should be easy for you. Then find a promoter (or a brother who will do some leg work) and a young band that fits the genre’s image and are trainable. Cut a CD. Design some incredible t-shirts. Again, with your artistic skills, piece of cake. Have the promoter try to sell the shirts at cost to a few mall stores (Hot Topic, Pac Sun, any pseudo goth/skater/surf shops are VERY popular with kids in the states right now). Then just wait. Once the shirts get out to the schools, the kids do your advertising for you, they scan the web for the band on iTunes, buy the songs, and it takes off from there. Before you know it, just from the $$$ attention being paid to the band the songs will make their way to media (TV/movies/internet) and off you go.

    Selling out? No. You are just using your God-given skills for ghostwriting/ghostdirecting a band that is going somewhere, and is going to get something out of it, and oh by the way your cut of the money will support your family and your more cerebral artistic endeavors, and you just might have some fun tunring the tables for once.

    So come on Kilbey, put your money where your mouth is, roll the dice and see what comes of it.

  38. avatar
    steve kilbey | 8 December 2008 at 7:25 pm #

    sounds easy

  39. avatar
    ScaughtFive | 8 December 2008 at 7:45 pm #

    There ain’t no attaboys for betting on the true muse, drude…

  40. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 8:09 pm #

    It is easy. The hard part is finding someone that can write an appealing song, and make an eye-catching design. I can think of nobody better at that than you my friend. Your music and art are VERY appealing TO PEPOPLE IT REACHES. that’s the key. The problem is, it reaches too few and frankly for the dumb, money spending poeple today is roo hard to digest. I’m sorry, but that’s just the sad truth. So be it on canvas or t-shirt, what’s the diff, just fibers, but one is easily mass produced and can reach millions, and is FREE ADVERTISING.

    Fuck Kilbey, just float a song like “Othertime” under the nose of some upstart, nobody band, cut one fucking single for it on iTunes, design a killer t-shirt for it (like Painkiller, for example, call it The Othertime, what the hell!), get someone to leg it to the store headquarters (easier than you think, they like cheap/beautiful things that appeal to kids).

    That’s the difference between where you are now and where you could be. PROMOTION. If you don’t have the budget for promotion let someone else do it for you, namely kids wearing your ad in school. It’s the oldest, and easiest trick in the book, and believe me, it works.

    Take a stroll through your local mall, fins your local goth/skate/surf apparel shop. Glance around the walls and you see exactly what I mean.

  41. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 8:24 pm #

    Steve Kilbey, boy band manager, I can see it now.

  42. avatar
    seoigh | 8 December 2008 at 8:24 pm #

    Our anonymous friend well illustrates how sick the market is. Obviously it’s nowhere near as easy as he makes it out to be — but he is right about one thing — the marketplace for music is no longer where it used to be. I would add to that fact that the marketplace itself is a fraction of its former size. It’s not just digital media doing the killing; it’s a culture moving away from music. Music simply isn’t as important to people as it once was. Music is something to sell an IPOD with. Music is something to use as a ring tone. I find it quite sad, really.

  43. avatar
    davem | 8 December 2008 at 8:24 pm #

    Hope you’re ok esskay.
    xx

  44. avatar
    eek | 8 December 2008 at 8:52 pm #

    its hard when things go wrong
    but you never learn anything if you just win

    Very true. Still, sometimes it would be nice to learn a little less and win a little more.

    And here’s a big virtual hug. (((((hug)))))

    (virtual hugs are especially nice because you don’t actually get the crap squeezed out of you by some over-zealous weird ass fan. πŸ˜‰ )

  45. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 9:02 pm #

    Shrug it off if you wish people but it IS as easy as I say it is, and I’m NOT talking about boy bands. Kids do not buy into that. They are more discretionary and smarter than that. But let’s be real, kids want to see people that look like them playing the music.

    And yes the market is sick (what’s new?) but why not take advantage of it so you can financially support those higher artistic endeavors? What’s wrong with that?

    Look, kids today are the decsion-makers on family budgets when it comes to buying music and clothes. Parents just follow along, so you have to reach the kids. Every generation of kids has a way to be reached, the problem is you are still trying to reach these young decision-makers by old methods (or non-existent ones).

    Today, if you want to reach kids, and you can’t afford to get your song promoted on a soundtrack or through gaming music, then you have to reach them through clothes, and then support it with all the rest.

    So what’s so hard? Simply gain interest in the image through the art, and then support it with the music, from people that look like them, and all the rest falls into place. It really is that simple. People are doing it right now, and making lots of money in the process. Why not Kilbey?

  46. avatar
    isolde | 8 December 2008 at 9:13 pm #

    because that would be exploiting children and crass commercialism?

  47. avatar
    seoigh | 8 December 2008 at 9:21 pm #

    Hi to all the people that are selling me, here’s one straight from the factory…

  48. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 9:31 pm #

    Kilbey, I’m talking to you, not the commenters. I’m just giving you a bit of free advice, take it or leave it, it’s the last I’ll say on the subject. My company makes a reasonable chunk of money from successful companies that rely on market research to tell them exactly how to reach and retain the type of customers they seek.

    As I see it, your problem is you are not reaching the customers you need to sustain an income. Furthermore, you have been led to believe you can only direct your arts in one direction, but that’s a mistake. When we invest in stocks do we not diversify? Why? Because when one investement type goes down, likely the others go up, so by balancing your portfolio you stand to gain, across the board. It’s no different with what you do. Why can’t you reach the cerebral types, as well as the rest of the market?

    I’ll say it for the last time:

    1. Design 3-4 thematically based shirts around a ‘band’. Example: ‘The Othertime’.
    2. Find a band, give them a song, like ‘The Othertime’, record one single. iTunes it.
    3. Get a ‘leg man’ to sell the shirts at cost to one of the coprorate buying reps of the ‘underground’ goth/slate/surf shops. You only need to hit one, as most will want a non-compete agreement, meaning you cannot sell to other stores if they deal with you.
    4. Let the shirts sell. Support the image with additional songs. Let the free advertising do the rest.
    5. Enjoy your $$$.

  49. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 9:57 pm #

    Incidentally, by sell the shirts at cost I meant the design.

    OK, bye!

  50. avatar
    Anonymous | 8 December 2008 at 9:59 pm #

    Hey Anonymous, don’t you think that Kilbey is already startlingly aware of everything you’ve written already? And that perhaps the reason he would never employ your suggestions is that he doesn’t want to be a corporate whore? I mean, c’mon! Market research?? I’m sure you mean well, but people like Kilbey choose integrity and artistry over what some schmuck in a marketing department says. And diversifying your financial portfolio is a hell of a lot different than creating banal music on purpose to reach the hookers and blow segment of the music industry/audience.

    Btw, most kids are not discretionary or smart at all, which is why guys like you and your market research buddies are able to sell them the garbage that you do at places like Hot Topic. This is NOT something to be proud of.

  51. avatar
    matthew | 8 December 2008 at 9:59 pm #

    “I’m just giving you a bit of free advice, take it or leave it, it’s the last I’ll say on the subject” -bahahahahahaha

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    Anonymous | 9 December 2008 at 12:25 am #

    Ok, this is my take. I love you SK, loved The Church and all. Were you all ahead of your time, absofukinlutely! It sucks, I mean really I can listen to any of your cds and its more relevant in my life now than anything else out there today but such is life and I don’t need to tell you that!

    However, I must say I’ve known many an artist in my time and I know how many of you dream of truly only being able to pursue your “art” or your passion to make money and not having to deal with the day in day out grind that the rest of us sad bastards must endure. Hey, I get it but there comes a time where you’ve got to do what must be done. I’m not saying go manage a friggen Gap store, but get creative. We all know you are that! I’m thinking produce or hell, sell a killer lyric to a band trying to get a break. I don’t think anyone would begrudge you that. Selling out is when you’re filthy rich to begin with and you sell your soul based only on greed. Selling a song to pay off your debt and feed your family is SURVIVAL! Me personally, I would go the painting route as it seems you have the knack and people dig it and buy them.

    I hate to make comparisons and its none of my business really but I see MWP jetting all over the planet doing his music and all and he seems happy…SK, you need to find that happy place. Shed the past its over, live in the now and truly take stock of all that’s good.

    Like others, I don’t have to point out the obvious, “you had fame, fortune, have traveled the world” because I wouldn’t want any of it because once you have it, its all the harder to accept when it’s gone. Me, I’ve never had it, never will so I don’t even know what I’m missing. I like my simple life, husband, cats. No kids, a small roof over our heads and just enough money to pay all my shitty debt, and have a little left over at the end of the month. Yeah it would be nice to have more but I’m damn thankful for what I’ve got.

    Hang in there man, feel the love!

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    m.p.k | 9 December 2008 at 12:48 am #

    I agree with this Anon:

    Man, you can’t keep on doing the same old things and expect things to change or be different. Why try and engage with the world so much? retract, retreat for a while, detatach. Yr got yr art, why can’t it be quite for a while? Why does it have to be about grand statements all the time? Yr got yr family, ya got the ocean. Like you say get humble!.
    The curse of the artiste is that you are only interested in what you are doing right NOW, the past, bah, try and enjoy this moment and the creative dilemma in front of you. I know money is a big fucking drag and your dubious ‘bankability’ is fleeting at best but life shouldn’t be a struggle (feel free to puck now)…it’s a quite stroll down a a sunny path in a forest clearing.

    Bro, you can’t be artistically relevant all the time, even to yourself. Sometimes it’s best to sit back and enjoy what you’ve already done (the things that were) and the great things that currently are. Let it sink in a little. Just be and forget this race.

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    Anonymous | 9 December 2008 at 8:24 pm #

    Killer
    You’re brilliant and have kept us all enthralled over the years.The Church has been the only band that has excited me enough to fly across country and continents for the past 25 years. I’m embarrassed to say that this is the first time I’ve contributed via Paypal to your blog , but consider it catch up for 2 years reading.
    Most of us in our 40’s (late) re-assess what our footprint is and whether have reached the stars in our lives. My best moments are with my wife and kids and friends who have known me for 40 years.You have a wife that loves you and an indoor soccer team of beautiful young daughters.There is also an adoring throng of fans throughout the globe who recognise your continued creativity and can’t wait to hear or see what comes next.
    Cheers Jacko in SOCAL

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    lily was here | 15 December 2008 at 9:38 am #

    Is it really so bad what anon was suggesting ???

    Like anyone out there, I hate to see you struggle SK and suffering for your art. I see it as diversifying in one area whilst keeping integrity in another. Reg did it with Mambo. Whats the difference?

    xoxo


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