posted on July 27, 2012 at 2:21 pm

a smokin’ t-shirt

just cos you like someones music

doesn’t mean you will like them

or they will like you…

in fact it might mean some great awkward balls-up…

or some embarrassing gushing or something….

anyway yesterday i hang out with greg dulli…

he and i both like each others stuff very much

yet…. we also got along just famously

we had lunch in bondi

he even came to pick up the woofle at the school with me

he came round my place

hey evie i say to evie (duh!)

remember how you and aurora used to tell me to stop playing the gutter brothers (sic)

(one of gregs projects was the gutter twins)

(i gave their album apparently too good  a flogging!)

evie says yeah

i say well this is a gutter brother introducing greg…

eve goes a king shade of crimson…i mean she would have made a beetroot look pale!

greg says yeah why’d you tell him to stop playing my music…??!!

eves red redoubles (eve becomes scarlet!)

then greg smiles and says nah i’m just joking…and puts her at ease…

we walk around bondi a bit

we have a little jazzy stuff

and gregs standing in the middle of the road taking pictures of stuff

we rap about songwriting all the time

gregs going to tell me a line of mine he really likes

but our conversation digresses and digresses

weaving around songs and words and tunes and records

yeah when we played here or there …

yeah do ya know such n such…? etc

anyway we take scarlet home

we drive out to the gig

i feel like we’ve known each other for ages

in person he has not disappointed me

his songs are real

hes a diamond geezer

we rehearse one day 

its so fucking loud

I’ve heard quieter jumbos taking off

i return later  and watch the whigs play half their set

we were gonna do one day last but thats too late for me

so i’m going on in the middle

i still gotta get my woofle to schoolio tomorrow after all

and she’s a hard woofle to handle sometimes (i’m thinking bout letting her know!)

anyway the whigs are a great band of course

dulli is a powerful soulful performer

his voice permeates the room

that warm snarling profane hoarse incredible masculine voice

a real baudelaire as I’ve written in a short article soon to be in magnet

gregs words are never accusatory without being first self-accusatory

he finds the good in the evil

he finds the evil in the good

when he’s high and raving no one is higher

when he’s broken and weary no one is more weary

as he said

songs that make you feel something you can’t explain

i love gregs songs

i love the whigs

i love the twilight singers

i love the gutter twins

i love his one solo album amber headlights

hes a great guitarist too

he understands the use of the mellotron

we have begun to tentatively discuss working together

i really believe if it happens it will be some record

i mean we are both exactly on the same page here

we both want to make music that makes you ache

so lets hope this one happens

i want to do this

i have a funny feeling about it

my old mate mark who originally turned me on to the twilights

he keeps urging me to get it done contact dulli and make sure it happens

he told me all along dulli and i could really kick each other

onto something transcendental

so if it happens…….

write to your senator and demand we make a record together



ps i did one day

it was loud

i jumped around

the people liked it

very addictive!




58 Responses to “whiggy as all fork”

  1. avatar
    Nick Peters | 27 July 2012 at 3:25 pm #

    Word’s can’t express how great it was to see two of my favourite artists live on stage together last night. I really hope a collaboration with Greg works out. I would love to hear that!

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    Richard | 27 July 2012 at 3:43 pm #

    will do , but a bit stumped as to which senator might be the best bet
    penny wong maybe

    y’ just gotta do it

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    Chris | 27 July 2012 at 4:42 pm #

    ‘The good in the evil and the evil in the good’…paradox…Yin and Yang…nice one…very zen…

  4. nina
    nh | 27 July 2012 at 5:03 pm #

    addictive indeed… love it… still cheering and clapping… shouting *I LOVE YOU* thank you sk… your light doth shine purer and brighter… addicted to gs as well… it takes me to alpha level @ the first tweet… your light doth shine purer and brighter… cant get enough of the new joy you are creating… addicted for sure xoxo 🙂!

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    Crasher | 27 July 2012 at 5:05 pm #

    love the whigs, love favourite 80s church album.. yeah the others are great too, but i came to this brilliant montage of songs only a few years back.
    it’s among my 12 favourite church records of awwwl time.
    the other 11 being ( in reverse alphabetical order ) ULTC..can those guys get any better ?..yep U23 (love it even more,if that’s possible, with each play),Starfish of course,P=A.. ,HOB…hits right out of the baal park, GAF..yes i love this record, even with the drum machine prevailing ., Forget Yourself…this one gives me goosebumps, hearthumps ..i shiver and i shake , (the) blurred crusade,bw2b..more than 2 beasts here, AENT…complete opposite to abounds.
    this space reserved for the new album
    i know….i’m a grovelling toady

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      Anonymous | 27 July 2012 at 11:34 pm #

      yeah, but it’s good to get it out of your system!

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    Crasher | 27 July 2012 at 5:34 pm #

    while i’m in this grovelling state, i wish to apologise to all those fans of other churches (temple and mosques) that i upset, angered and/or offended when i expressed my opinion some time back regarding religion.
    we might not agree in this area, but there’s one church we do have in common.

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    J Cridford | 27 July 2012 at 7:14 pm #

    A wonderful piece of writing – the first few lines, denoting the seperation of feeling between someone’s music and their personality is very true indeed.

    I’m really digging the ‘Monsters ‘n’ Mirages’ t-shirt, too.


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    geenunn | 27 July 2012 at 7:35 pm #

    I would have walked over broken glass to have heard you guys sk… this country’s just too bloody big sometimes!

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    Anonymous | 27 July 2012 at 8:08 pm #

    Excellent, Steve, sounds like you had a fantastic time there. I’ve loved your stuff since 1982 (seriously!) and everything you say about Greg Dulli would normally make me run straight to check him out. But I’ve already heard Afghan Whigs & a lot of other things he’s done and none of it had any effect on me at all – didn’t dislike it, it’s just…well…yeah, and?…y’know… Yet you clearly get it in a big way and even see major similarities with yourself – in intent, if not actual delivery. Ah well. Anyway, if there is a collaboration lets have more mellotron – mellotron goooood!

    • avatar
      thetimebeing | 27 July 2012 at 8:16 pm #

      strange you don’t like him…but i guess its not for everyone….

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        vickileew | 27 July 2012 at 10:01 pm #

        Makes it all interesting.
        Plus it leads me to think of a study I read this week about trying to “understand” what we find interesting / attractive in abstract art by analysing brain waves (sry my explanation & understanding vry basic) I’m not sure that it is such a good thing to understand so clinically the aspects of an abstract visual image that would make people like it (primarily apparently an image that makes us think for longer) I think our only hope is refusing to be the same!

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    vickileew | 27 July 2012 at 8:55 pm #

    I’m in hibernation but reading it made me wish I was there. Your writing made me smile – feel fun. warm. and think about how rare it has been to feel that connection

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    Roddy C | 27 July 2012 at 9:16 pm #

    Had a lot of fun last night and I wasn’t expecting your cameo appearance. This is the first time I’ve seen you do “One Day” live and it came together brilliantly. The Whigs seemed to enjoy it as much as the audience. I bet it went down a treat live in the early days of the church. Any possibility of adding it to your live set???

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      Envoys Have Been Sent | 28 July 2012 at 9:18 pm #

      One Day was fantastic live – the American 1984 gigs opened with Fly and One day and it was fucking awesome! Noboken is a famous one, but the San Francisco show is way better, so get that as soon as you see it – wonderful stuff. And for added resonance, that was the show where Steve met Donnette Thayer for the first time.

  12. avatar
    Tim | 27 July 2012 at 9:41 pm #

    What a gig! Everything I hoped it would be and more. Greg Dulli – man, that is one helluva voice. And that band! And those songs! And all topped off by your guest appearance. Was a killer (Killer) version of One Day, too. Fingers and everything else crossed for a Dulli-Kilbey collaboration.

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    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 27 July 2012 at 10:35 pm #

    Great blog entry today – an enjoyable read !!!

    That’s a smokin fine shirt you got there , cannot
    wait to have all three !!! Exciting stuff on the
    horizon !!!


  14. avatar
    david | 28 July 2012 at 2:09 am #

    …..thats cause one day was whey ahead of its thymme……its clay.

  15. avatar
    Thomas Thomsen | 28 July 2012 at 2:34 am #

    I love ALL of Greg Dulli’s projects. I can’t think of a more appropriate collaborator than Greg (except the equally appropriate Jeffrey Cain, of course). This is a very exciting prospect indeed! I think it’s going to happen! 🙂

  16. Kraig
    Kraig | 28 July 2012 at 2:51 am #

    Oh the ironic parody! Love the pic & caption today Steve! Witty too!

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    Ms SS | 28 July 2012 at 2:55 am #

    Here I go again trying to express myself, well.. I watched and loved it. I grabbed my son and we did SK’s interpretive dancing all over the kitchen. I love the song One Day and we both said ” we need to move to Australia!” then one of my brother in law’s friends made a move on me! Shocker! I guess I danced too interpretive. 🙂 anyway SK was so awesome in his performance. How old is he? 29? Loved it and the Whigs. Do it again except over here in the states please. My son and I will happily dance along! ( oh my son told that guy, who was a head taller than him, that he would kick his butt if he touched his purdy mom again! You stirred something up at my sister’s house!)
    It was loud
    It was amazing
    It was perfect!
    With much respect,

  18. avatar | 28 July 2012 at 5:18 am #

    Can’t buy a single song until 3 or 4 weeks.
    Sorry, just a momentary bankrupcy.
    Great day to all of you,

  19. Jmb066
    Jmb066 | 28 July 2012 at 6:57 am #

    Oh Steve I wish I was there.

    You and Greg are my favorite artist. Listened to you longer but something in the Whigs and Singers projects always reminded me of you and your work. Greg is very cinematic and you with your other world magic have always inspired and are music to my ears and sight to my imagination.

    I see both bands whenever you are in the U.S., going to see the whigs here in October in Detroit. Saw the last twilight singers show and Greg acoustic when he played with a three piece band, we meet and discussed your acoustic show with the church at the Magic Bag earlier that year. I was happy that he was such a fan of yours and your music. You had posted that he came see the church in LA and that you to got on very well. As far as american performers he really is the best we have to offer here. Hope you both do an album and tour of the US. Excellent that you to got to hang out and spend the day together, only better if I was there as well. Maybe next time.

    Take Care,


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    Anonymous | 28 July 2012 at 10:18 am #

    …or, in the alternative: down (just a little bit, maybe a sixteenth of an inch? photos distort space)… there you have it: perfect match to Ahhhhhh and; exhale… collaborative high.

  21. avatar
    SB | 28 July 2012 at 11:36 am #

    I sort of bumped into an artist i really liked way back: that was you, Steve, in 1986, and I probably didn’t make a very good impression. I was very young and very … lets just say awkward, I guess. I was a bit moved by this piece here, this thing about just because you like someones music doesn’t mean that you will like them: because that was struck me back then. But then again so much comes with age: understanding of people that you really should care about and like and impatience with people you really shouldn’t care about. And well, that’s why I guess I’m here, checking up on your writing.

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      thetimebeing | 28 July 2012 at 4:20 pm #

      hey steve birchman
      was that in sweden?
      yeah its a weird thing
      I’ve pissed off a few of my heroes I’m sure

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        SB | 29 July 2012 at 9:57 am #

        No, that was in Sydney. I was a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend, so to speak. I hung around you people for a few months, we met in the South Dowling St place where your brother lived and at a few gigs and such. I even visited your place in Rozelle and had filmjölk with knäckebröd. I was absolutely a wide eyed innocent abroad.

  22. avatar
    Anonymous | 28 July 2012 at 1:08 pm #

    Hi sk,

    Nice t shirt, handsome fella on it.

    Lucky people that were at the gig. Would love to c u and Greg play.
    Hope a record is made, and then a gig, sounds good to me.

    Still upset andc shocked about Darryl Cotton (may he be enjoying rock n roll heaven). Only saw him perform at the State Theatre in May at the Go Show. It was a fantastic show and afterwards there was a meet and greet.
    Talked to Darryl and luckily got a photo of him with d. He was such a gentleman truly lovely person. He

  23. avatar
    jw | 28 July 2012 at 3:38 pm #

    jw wants a shirt!
    are there girlie styles too?

  24. avatar
    Anonymous | 28 July 2012 at 4:34 pm #

    Hi sk,

    My comment went through half written about Darryl Cotton, glad u thought he was a gentleman too. Last night saw a Jon English show and at the signing mentioned Darryl and he said he and Darryl recently exchanged text messages and he is in shock (but he put on a great rock show).

    I wish you and the Church the best of health and happiness for the future and hope there’s plenty more gigs for us fans to enjoy (and solo, been awhile). The gig with Greg would have been well worth seeing, hope once the record is made there will be one to go to.

    Hope Miranda has fully recovered and u and the girls are all well.

    Peace & love

  25. avatar
    andy | 28 July 2012 at 5:23 pm #

    if you want to hear a mellotron400 getting one of the bestest key-bashing workouts in years check-out ‘roswell’ the new julian cope album.
    stunning song or what?

    heck, you’re busier than ever….hope the kenya painting fetches a good sum for the kids!

  26. avatar
    Linjo | 28 July 2012 at 5:30 pm #

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    Linjo | 28 July 2012 at 5:38 pm #

    Hi Steve, I just posted this clip of Darryl Cotton doing his kid’s show. This is one of the funniest things I have ever seen!
    I would have to go with anonymous at 8.08 to say that The Afghan Whigs music just leaves me feeling nothing. So glad though you and the punters loved it. Every time I hear The Horrors ‘Sea within a sea’ I think how much better it would be if it was a Church song. xxx Your voice is so unique

  28. avatar
    Ryan Murdock | 28 July 2012 at 6:02 pm #

    Now that’s an album I’d love to hear! I’ve got the twilight singers stuff and amber headlights. Man what a voice.

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    jen | 29 July 2012 at 4:04 am #

    This is fabulously done. I agree Greg Dulli is an exceptional man. I think his fanatic fan base thinks it would always be this way, so I’m glad to hear it actually can be for kindred souls. I hope you do a fantastic project. I’m sure I’d listen.

  30. avatar
    Michel | 29 July 2012 at 5:05 am #

    Smoking can damage your health and your t shirt too !
    A real pleasure to see this great rendering of One Day.
    Greg Dulli must be a great fan…he knows the song perfectly.
    Hope your collaboration will see the light of day…one day.

  31. avatar
    eekie | 29 July 2012 at 6:55 am #

    Here’s another video. This one is better for vocals and for watching Steve dance. I also love how happy Dulli looks. You can tell he’s a huge fan.

  32. avatar
    Patrick Coholan | 29 July 2012 at 5:51 pm #

    Seance LP was seen on sale for $8USD in nineteen ninety-eight, the spring, by my eyes, in the city of Boston near Harvard. It was a marvellous moment–Unearthed for $7CDN is on hand along with few other records, a modest collection spanning the nineteen sixties to the nineteen nineties, including Man Machine by Kraftwerk, Electr-o-pura by Yo la Tengo, and one of the experimental Sonic Youth albums from ’97 from Hoboken. I have been viewed by Ear of the Rat, John Hacob’s project, the spring 2012. Very well, I would like to hear more The Church songs from Seance including Electric Lash. I have often heard it as a teenager on a portable tape player. First time I heard One Day was the other night. I enjoyed myself!

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    Stephen | 29 July 2012 at 8:08 pm #

    This is probably the most ‘pro’ footage of the ‘One Day’ collaboration.

    Seance was one of my fave albums of the 80s. I’d been a bit worried that things were going awry after the Sing-Songs ep, so to have the opening salvo of Fly/One Day was quite a treat. Did ‘Dropping Names’ ever get an airing at Church live shows, cos I always thought that was another rocking track?

  34. avatar
    Anonymous | 30 July 2012 at 1:35 am #

    Watching that video made me die from handsomeness

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    BROKEN TOYS AND HEROS | 30 July 2012 at 6:50 am #

    Congrats on the fundraiser !!!

    How did the ‘Kids for Kenya’ evening turn out ???

    Big success ???

    I watched some of these vid links that have been posted…
    its so fantastic to see u up there prowling a stage with
    a smile in your voice and power in the vocals…
    that had to be a lot of fun for everyone involved !!!

    Here ^¦^ is to a busy upcoming week of successes :+)


  36. avatar
    Patrick Coholan | 30 July 2012 at 11:52 am #

    Thanks to Stephen for the faintly-clearer video. I now deem I officially have begun to hear Seance by The Church!

    I am a little weird, but I liked most of your famous band’s albums right off the bat. The first couple of the discography were good, that I heard, and they got more and more divine as time passed. Powerful, your records on your own are good, too, Unearthed, Earthed, The Slow Crack, I enjoyed all those. Finally caught up with you now, because I thought Seance was the odd record out of the bunch. Thanks for the inspiration. You’ve been a bit of a friend to me! All the best to the whigs and to yours. Thanks.

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    Chris | 30 July 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    The artist’s gift is to turn the most ordinary of places into the most mysterious of places…’Invisible’…train journey into transcendent mystical otherness…supremely cool and spiritual…

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    hellbound heart | 30 July 2012 at 8:19 pm #

    Dammit Steve don’t worry about any senator, I’ll tell you guys to get your asses into gear and make some music!!

  39. avatar
    hellbound heart | 31 July 2012 at 9:52 pm #

    How long until I can purchase an extremely fetching t shirt like the one featured in your photo??

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    Chris | 31 July 2012 at 10:05 pm #

    Driving south on wet roads listening to ‘Invisible’ again…gotta get my fix…pastel grey skies heavy with meaning wash into the horizon…’the horizon’ has become imbued with new significance, renewed meaning, in profound ways….thanks yet again Steve. Someone I love very deeply is dying and I can see the Invisible on the horizon beckoning me and her in diffused light, a kind of chiaroscuro, reassuring me even though just out of reach…your poetry and music change reality Steve.

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    ASSMIDGET | 4 August 2012 at 5:22 pm #

    Hey me and my brother fight but collaborate on music well. For going on 20 years his favorite band has been Afgahn Whigs, mine’s been You and your guys. Just now I learn you guys are hanging out! Who’s gonna play banjo?

  42. Kraig
    Kraig | 5 August 2012 at 10:32 pm #

    which album do you recommend from Afghan Whigs?

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    Boriah | 8 August 2012 at 4:21 pm #

    I´ve just came from my 15 days China tour, I´ve just read this. You and Dulli MUST work together. I love the Afghan Whigs since their early days. “Black love” and “Gentlemen” are masterpieces. But I love all what Dulli did after the Whigs.
    Unexpected and awesome news.

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    Arthur | 18 October 2013 at 10:48 am #

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    clear their motive, and that is also happening with this article which I am reading at this place.

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