posted on September 15, 2014 at 10:16 pm
same photo different night

same photo different night

Further/Deeper is coming y’all and it’ll bee sooner rather than later

damn right i make no apologies to no nomad no man no mad man no anyone

remember this

this is the only universe we got here

this is the church now

this is our your church who fucking cares

four guys got together and did this from scratch

theres always been four guys

sometimes one of the four guys changes

nothing can remain stable or static or in stasis forever

one guy left and another comes in

we lose what the first guy had which was incredible

we gain what the second guy has which is incredible

musicians jamming with each other

digging the cool sounds they laying down on pro fucking tools or whatever

hey we’re cooking up something here

sighs of relief all around

further and deeper into the music we are making

we get on a cosmic roll

words fall out of the sky into my head

ian and peter always working away at stuff

ian very keen to play always guitar in hand

tim: wallop bam boom crash hows that, chap? he says

we love what we do and we do what we love

a lotta love like all the rest

we realise people disappointed cos MWP not there

he literally never got back to us when we wanted to do a new record

he never even left

he just became unavailable

well thats that

we had a coalition of the willing who did

and ian came onboard

exceeding all expectations one could possibly have

what we have now is all that could have ever been

forget the what ifs

i understand you may be disappointed if MWP was your favourite

it was not my idea for him to not be there

however seeing he wasnt and he isnt

shortly therefore

and in spades to boot

Further/Deeper will be with you soon if you want

after all its only rocknroll nothing to get hung about

rocknroll forever

rocknroll for ever

rock and roll forever

67 Responses to “F/D”

  1. avatar
    Allister | 15 September 2014 at 11:21 pm #

    I’m quite fond of Haug (and a lot of Powderfinger’s work too!) so I’m looking forward to hearing that this new combo sounds like. I bet there’s a bit more of that ol’ glam swagger returning.

  2. avatar
    MlleDenise | 15 September 2014 at 11:43 pm #

    Steven, while it’s very nice and diplomatic of you to explain MWP’s absence from this record, in the end I don’t feel it will have that great an impact. Most Church fans I know, including myself, are truly looking forward to hearing the new album. Personally I find it more disappointing in how MWP handled (or didn’t handle as the case may be) his “exit” from the band. It really struck me as very immature, considering your history together. Frankly I see this as his loss. It was initially a shock to hear he wouldn’t be back but as you said, the only constant in life is change. Looking forward to Ian’s contributions; from what I’ve heard of the new album I really like it thus far.

  3. avatar
    Moo | 15 September 2014 at 11:44 pm #

    Selah my friend. Rock and Roll forever, indeed. The Church’s songs are bigger than the lineup playing them in the moment. Isn’t that what makes the music live and breathe? Predictability is the early stage of stagnation. Familiarity is sweet, but melancholy and memory are priceless ingredients and proof the Universe is all connected in some strange yet subtle way. Nobody owns memories. They can be defined by things like cosmology and quantum mechanics, but in essence they shall remain forever. It’s how this Universe stays aware of itself. Even it apparently, cannot last forever. Regardless, your melody and lyric shall remain timeless to me… and for that I simply thank you.

    BTW I sent you a Kilbey for PM reply on your previous post. Mull it over, guy.

  4. avatar
    wizkowski | 15 September 2014 at 11:53 pm #

    Been looking forward to this for a long time. Good to be able to hear album version of ‘Pride before a fall’ (available to hear via: ), and hoping that we get to be hearing lots more of the album in the coming weeks.

    So far I’ve also heard bits of:
    Old Coast Road (solo acoustic radio version)
    LIVE: Don’t take off your head (or is called Toy Head?)
    Laurel Canyon

    Maybe if you guys are on a roll you will be recording more soon, and therefore be able to flesh out any concerts you do (especially if you don’t want to be going over older ground)?

    Anyways, best wishes for what looks like a busy period coming up, and thanks again for uniqueness of The Church.

  5. avatar
    andy | 16 September 2014 at 12:17 am #

    oh yes sireeeeee!,I’m a believer f’sure……
    but I bin to ye olde churchmerch shopeeee
    and there ain’t no CD! only 2 x 12oz of plastic with a hole in the middle?
    hey, I’m a 21st century boy………..
    gimme,glmme,gimme shiny optical disc thingees!!!!!!

    • avatar
      thetimebeing | 16 September 2014 at 8:07 am #

      its there the CD is there
      but you gotta type further deeper in or something

      but its there

      • avatar
        andy | 16 September 2014 at 11:00 pm #

        I had tried that steve!
        but I came back to it a couple of hours later and it’s started working..
        so pile in and grab it people.

        • avatar
          John Garratt | 17 September 2014 at 1:53 pm #

          I’m looking for the CD too.

          Does anyone know if American Amazon will take pre-orders?

          • avatar
            Rebecca1KS | 23 September 2014 at 8:00 am #

            Yes they do, for many things. Just don’t know about this particular Church CD (didn’t come up when I did a search for the title).

  6. avatar
    rick godfrey | 16 September 2014 at 1:13 am #

    and I say Huzzah!!
    …palpable anticipation, feeling funny in my tummy 🙂
    your pal rick in los altos CA

  7. Kraig
    Kraig | 16 September 2014 at 1:27 am #

    Hey Man I can dig it! As long as i order and get my stuff this time i’m happy! I’d love to have tracking this time!? There’s no way i’m ordering this new album with CD, Vinyl, and all the bells and whistles and then having it lost in the mail again. Please make tracking available for us in the states please. Can’t wait to hear the tunes! Big Cheers! Kraig

    • Kraig
      Kraig | 16 September 2014 at 4:50 am #

      Man Steve, what’s up with the ultra high shipping cost at The Church Merch? For just the new Vinyl and one tshirt alone shipping is $45 dollars!? Just LP by itself costs $30 shipping, WOW!? I didn’t place my order yet, am hesitating now, and for that price i surely hope my stuff doesn’t get lost in mail this time and has some sort of tracking would feel mor confortable ordering and is here by release date. Last time i didn’t get my stuff i got a refund for items but not for shipping!? Thought you’d like to know? Sincerely Yours, Kraig

  8. avatar
    Brien Comerford | 16 September 2014 at 4:10 am #

    I know the new Church CD will be astounding. So much, talent, creativity and integrity. The Church invariably creates paramount music.

  9. avatar
    davem | 16 September 2014 at 5:07 am #

    The first taste of this was bloody great. 3 days until pay-day and then I can pre-order. I wish Marty was around, but Ian seems a very talented and humble guy – that’s a nice combination. It would be lovely if you could bring it to Europe, but I think we all accept that would probably cost money the band no longer can afford.

    • avatar
      andy | 16 September 2014 at 11:10 pm #

      dave, maybe you ‘n I could find some way of promoting the guys so they could do a stop-over on the way to or from the states or something like that?
      if they were assured an audience in advance things might be different…….
      hell…iv’e paid damo Suzuki’s hotel bill in the past!
      I’d sooner look after the druids for the night.
      u.k. fans, we could make a gig happen perhaps?

      • avatar
        davem | 18 September 2014 at 4:36 am #

        I’ve often wanted to do this Andy but it’s the £££££’s. My Brother-in-law is a promoter based in London (Field Day, Underage, Apple Cart are all part-owned by him, he also part owns a venue that holds Church-type numbers, 800 – 1000ish). He would be up for helping I’m sure……. However, when I made tentative enquiries a few years ago the cost of getting the guys here was, I think, £25k ish? Happy to discuss on pm Andy, but I’m just an ordinary old bloke and I ain’t got that sort of dosh – could underwrite a couple of grand or so but any more would be out of my reach? All this assumes the guys are going near East coast of the US!! No point the band coming to London unless it pays them and they have all the gear and crew to put on a show worthy of the best band of all time. Steve – appreciate you might not want this post to let this show on the blog.

        • avatar
          thetimebeing | 18 September 2014 at 7:11 am #

          appreciate the concern
          not my dept tho
          dont think its the way to go
          rest easy old boy

  10. avatar
    Rebecca1KS | 16 September 2014 at 5:11 am #

    Wow: your redundancy says so much. But c’est la vie. Everyone wants to say, MWP’s loss… So easy to say, right!? I’ve heard that on a personal level so many times, yet it doesn’t quite leave one feeling that good, does it?

    Truth is, I’ve learned the vast majority of life is out of our control, even if people hate to admit that. You just do the best you can with the hand you’re dealt.

    Me? I just can’t stand being ignored, SK…. I’d seriously rather get a negative reaction, it’s so much better than no response at all! [Probably a result of being raised dirt-poor as a middle female child among six male kids (damn Catholics)!] 😉

    • avatar
      thetimebeing | 16 September 2014 at 8:06 am #

      a positive response then

      • avatar
        Rebecca1KS | 17 September 2014 at 4:14 am #

        “a positive response then” is not technically a positive response.

        That’s like saying, “I heard you, but I wasn’t listening.”

        • avatar
          Rebecca1KS | 17 September 2014 at 6:53 am #

          🙂 But I’m still happy for you. <3

      • avatar
        Rebecca1KS | 19 September 2014 at 6:37 am #

        There are many here who reference knowing you [how nice for them]; but that has not been my lot and now seems pretty unlikely, eh?

        Words courtesy of Radiohead:

        “I want you to notice
        When I’m not around…

        You’re so fuckin’ special
        I wish I was special…

        I don’t belong here.”

        • avatar
          thetimebeing | 19 September 2014 at 8:24 am #

          not necessarily

          • avatar
            Rebecca1KS | 23 September 2014 at 8:20 am #

            Right, ambiguity can be cool.
            (no sarcasm intended)

  11. etta
    etta | 16 September 2014 at 7:21 am #

    Rawk awn baybeez. The church bands music is my serenity prayer and my chaos, ie some kind of controlled chaos. Release me!

  12. avatar
    redpotty | 16 September 2014 at 7:33 am #

    Is Ian handsome enough to take Martys place?

    • avatar
      andy | 16 September 2014 at 11:20 pm #

      no-one Is handsome enough to take marty’s place…..
      but ian is pretty good on that Gibson.
      and with him on board the band is a functioning entity again.
      marty’s a great bloke and I love him to bits….I wish everyone well in all their endevours.
      hey, it is what it is.
      and in the final analysis…..I’m just glad the door didn’t get locked.

  13. avatar
    Martin | 16 September 2014 at 7:40 am #

    A change is as good as a rest my friend; rock on, you inspirational mofo.

  14. avatar
    Anonymous | 16 September 2014 at 7:44 am #

    Great news Kilbey, looking forward to the new album. Will it be released on vinyl?

  15. avatar
    Evan | 16 September 2014 at 7:58 am #

    It’s never easy for the devoted when an elder leaves. All you can do is all you can do. I for one can’t wait to receive. Godspeed.

  16. avatar
    omingomak | 16 September 2014 at 8:05 am #

    At first I was a bit taken aback that MWP wasn’t plying his magic to the new release but I guess I may have jumped the gun.. I’ve listened to Pride Before a Fall now more than I’d care to admit… and Steve… you guys nailed it. Each and every Church album has always been “the best ever”
    in my book and I know its gonna be the same after Further/Deeper releases…
    Keep doing what you do best and that’s expanding the musical horizon without compromise. Ohh and happy birthday!… Welcome to the big leagues… (smiling)

  17. avatar
    Dave Sharpe | 16 September 2014 at 8:07 am #

    Steve , I’m looking forward to It , anything that has your vocals and lyrics bestows mercurial magic. I’m gonna buy anything you put out for the rest of your life . I can not say I’m your biggest fan ’cause I’m only 5’8 but you are to me what John Lennon was to you. I make music because you have inspired me since 1988 when I discovered “Tantalized ” on 120 minutes. Your abstract lyrics and talk style singing just stood out to me as being just laid back cool. I have made two recordings one with a professional engineer and the second I did all by myself, at the time 2003 and 2006 I went by the name Labor 7 referring to of course Hercules and the 12 labors. starting a new album now called “Lapping It up in Dogwood”. Maybe go by the name “Clumsy Merger” . I love your ironic wordplay and sense Humor . I think you and I would hit off pretty good. I’m on facebook as David Sharpe Rochester, N.Y I put a friend request into you already. Still looking forward to Coral Kingdom w/ Frank Kearns . I remember MWP had an attitude back in 2009. He seemed a bit resentful when I did my 3 concert tour of the Church In Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Albany. It will always be the Church with you man , peace love harmony!!! P.S. If you ever want copies of my first two albums just send an address where I can send them!!! It’s the least I can do with you sharing a prolific career of albums while fuckin’ U2 takes over five years to make an album and you put out ten in the same timespan. Damn little leprechauns !!!!

  18. avatar
    Cath | 16 September 2014 at 8:18 am #

    The first song released yesterday Pride Before a Fall, previewed on Soundcloud then into the inbox after buying the pre reelease is really beautiful Steve, it shimmers and speaks a serene tongue with melodies and harmonies ascending and descending concurrently as is true Church style. It is very airplayable too. I reckon give that mother ship station a call, or get someone to, and just keep bringing them back to the now when they want to go memory lane. Marty will be missed, Marty was Marty jingle jangle man , Ian weaved in seamlessly as you say. Can’t wait for October, spoiling myself with lots of Church for my bday. Whatever work you’ve done on your upper register keep doing it’s working, your voice is always unobtrusive, it just slides into the ears like a warm summers breeze. P.s I am gonna see if Cyclic dEfrost want an album review or a quirky Death of a Poet review, and then write one, will send it to ya much love CM

  19. avatar
    Kerrie | 16 September 2014 at 8:22 am #

    “Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup” I glad you caught some Steve – a thousand more gorgeous pictures for your gallery.

  20. avatar
    Steven Krut | 16 September 2014 at 10:04 am #

    I think Marty’s absence creates a bit of a conundrum for some church fans in that if you heap praise on the new line-up and songs, are you displaying disloyalty to Marty? It helps that neither party is dissing the other. In the end it’s all about the music, of course, and I think whatever angst exists is going to get washed away by the sheer brilliance of the new songs. From what I’ve heard so far, I think almost all church fans are going to be giddy with delight.

    • avatar
      thetimebeing | 16 September 2014 at 12:10 pm #

      one can like marty and like the new album right?

      • avatar
        Steven Krut | 16 September 2014 at 2:06 pm #

        No, it’s one or the other. 😉

        • avatar
          John Garratt | 17 September 2014 at 1:54 pm #

          I like Peter and “Sometime Anywhere”.

          • avatar
            thetimebeing | 17 September 2014 at 4:29 pm #

            there you go
            well said

      • Kraig
        Kraig | 17 September 2014 at 4:38 am #

        Sorry i disagree with you Krut. Mr. Kilbey, I and other fans still like Marty and many fans do i assume, his solo works, church stuff, and fans i assume will probably like the new album without him too! Haven’t heard it yet but I’m a biased 30+ year Church Fan anyway. I never knew Haug before this and was skeptical to be honest, but he’s a cool guy it seems too and very musically talented! I really don’t give a shit anymore to put it bluntly. Just happy to have some new tunes from The Church! I spoke with Ian Haug through FB earlier this year and told him how much I’m looking forward to the new material etc and how i never heard of Powderfinger but started listening to that also. I also told him I’m looking forward to his part in the band. My only question is…what happens if Marty ever wants to rejoin and make himself available? Do you guys then have 5 players!? or would that screw up the formula

        • Kraig
          Kraig | 17 September 2014 at 4:39 am #

          ….this is coming from a big MWP fan like me too!

        • avatar
          Steven Krut | 17 September 2014 at 1:29 pm #

          I was being facetious. I’m such a daffy duck.

          • Kraig
            Kraig | 19 September 2014 at 2:30 am #

            oh, sorry bout that then, cool!

  21. avatar
    Ingrid | 16 September 2014 at 10:43 am #

    Happy Happy Birthday for Saturday and many, many happy returns of the day.
    I hope you had a great one!!!
    So much looking forward to getting Further Deeper, that you have a new album is brilliant.


  22. avatar
    cheryl | 16 September 2014 at 10:48 am #

    ready for the voyage to never never land with 4 men who are The Church! Rock On SK Yer Friend from the Bayou

  23. avatar
    Sureshm | 16 September 2014 at 10:54 am #

    Pride Before A Fall is spellbinding. I’m so looking forward to Further Deeper. The Church has always been so creative, artistic and magical to me. No other band comes close. All these years later the quality of The Church is still a certainty! Not much else in life is. Cheers

  24. avatar
    thirdofnever | 16 September 2014 at 2:14 pm #

    Love the new track – I’ve posted it on several social media pages.

    I truly believe the Church is in it’s glory period right now; the albums released from 2000-present I think are the band’s best work.

    That being said, what the hell is up with $45 shipping for a vinyl record and two dvds? I tried to pre-order the new album on vinyl and get the two new DVDs tonight but the shipping was $45….there has got to be a way to order these items from the U.S.

    • Kraig
      Kraig | 17 September 2014 at 4:45 am #

      I couldn’t agree more! The shipping is outrageous! I would have ordered by now and really wanted the new vinyl plus cd plus a shirt, but don’t nkow if I can justify with the wife spending nearly $150 smacks for all this stuff? $36.36 vinyl, $18.18 cd, thsirt $32, shipping went up to $52 now if you add cd and LP together!!!??? WOW Crazy Silly Mad! I mean The Church are worth it, but i got stuff lost last time in the mail, I want tracking this time around if i’m paying that much! Got to be a better way for the USA!!!!!!?

  25. avatar
    C | 16 September 2014 at 3:06 pm #

    who mixed it, really is an ace mix, so many angles to listen from….:) trying to decipher the words in some parts is a bit of a task …could you post them Steve?

  26. avatar
    Steve | 16 September 2014 at 4:54 pm #

    Love it love it love it!!!

    Great to hear and see it live a few times over the last few weeks. Great to chat about it and have ordered it all.

    Well done Steve. Rocking!

    See you at the Old Museum!

  27. avatar
    veleska1970 | 16 September 2014 at 8:33 pm #

    I always look forward to, and can’t wait for, a new Church album. 😀

  28. avatar
    Cocoamo | 17 September 2014 at 2:11 am #

    Indeed, our birthday month. Happy birthday to us, happy birthday to us, don’t start that bit about how old you are again, or I’m gonna cuss.

    Glad it’s you and not me writing your songs, eh?

    Your Friend in Pennsylvania

    p.s. Impending new Church album best birthday present ever (albeit sans what’s his name).

  29. avatar
    . | 17 September 2014 at 9:07 am #

    pride before a fall
    leads me towards a new dawn
    awesome interplay, excellent mix, intriguing vocals
    can’t wait for more…

  30. Kraig
    Kraig | 17 September 2014 at 4:09 pm #

    I didn’t want to listen to any tunes until I got the new album in the mail. Whoops! Well now that I’ve listened to the new cut “Before A Fall”…maybe it’s worth the sky high shipping to the USofA!? LMFAO, Big Cheers to The Band! Loved the interview with TheMusic Too!

  31. avatar
    Michel | 17 September 2014 at 4:58 pm #

    “Pride before a fall” has achieved my slow brain destruction begun in february 1988 with “Myrrh” (yes I was a bit late…). Church-addict one day, Church-addict for ever.
    Writing this I decide to give Pride = Fall another youtube spin before going to work, as it is the nicest addiction, and my poor brain still wants this drug to go further and deeper !!

    I would like to add a comment concerning Marty’s departure. Marty is a nice person and he must have his reasons not to get in the Church adventure again. He has his own life in Scandinavia and he is still making very good music. Last year he released one of his best records, “Moat” (along with Niko Röhlcke) and previously this year he toured and play with the french band Sweet Gum Tree. I think his european life and work made him “unavailable”, even if this is sad. So welcome Ian Haug ! (a man who made a record with Grant McLennan cannot be a bad man anyway…).

  32. avatar
    Anonymous | 17 September 2014 at 9:11 pm #

    What makes something a ‘Church’ album?
    GAF had no Ploog (not really) but was Church album.
    Sometime Anywhere had no Pete but was Church album.
    Further Deeper has no MWP but is a Church album.
    If SK’s presence makes it a Church album, why isn’t Remindlessness a Church album?
    What makes something a Church album?
    When Steve damn well SAYS it’s a Church album!
    Good enough for me.

  33. avatar
    Anonymous | 29 September 2014 at 3:06 pm #

    the feeling is right, so what else matters? music pouring out of every pore. and steven’s voice, ageless, magic undiluted, i want to live inside it again. you said i didn’t have to leave. this is home.


  34. avatar
    hellbound heart | 2 October 2014 at 11:48 am #

    the church is bigger than the sum of its parts and will always be…..can’t wait to hear the coming chapters in its evolution
    love always….

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