posted on March 4, 2006 at 1:29 am

good morning
well actually its the afternoon
are ya such a stickler for the truth?
or are ya fickle with it
do you take things literally
i know i do
i know sometimes its hard to reelax
let that meaning course thru ya
oh my
so much trouble caused by taken things literally
for not glimpsing the subtext
for not recognising a parable when you see it
or not knowing an aphorism if it bit ya on the ..
well you know
i dont believe any good stuff
happens ONLY on the surface
you have to imagine if its ever been translated
or retranslated
that people living in other times
had other ways of saying things
as you know
i speak a bit of swedish
and just between these 2 very similar languages
so much room for error
that is
the swedes and the engish frequently
get the wrong end of the stick
with whats really being said
so ya gotta imagine how some really foriegn language
from millions o years ago
comes to be translated by some dude
in the 18th century
maybe thats it
the only version extant
how many people at any one time speak sumerian?
if you find a vase in the ruins of ur
you gonna have to ask one of this small number
to translate
what if he puts his own thing into it
he got an agenda of his own
etc etc
etc
you see where im going
frinstance
the story of adam and eve
a pet preoccupation of mine
does any sane living persson
really think that the author(s)
of this storymythfable
EVER
intended anyone
to take it literally?
i really dont think so
its like emerald haunt in overdrive
you sposed to not understand it
yer sposed to understand it
you get a feeling of velocity
thru some green continuum
as if youve left yer body
and you were blowing thru some venusian/underwater forest
whatever the f@#k that feels like
howard i no
any way
the point is this
there is no real point
the point is legion
according to the viewpoints
of every individual soul
its all relative
it depends baybee
it depends on everything else
i do not believe there was an a and e
that they got kicked outta paradise
for eating an apple
persuaded by a snake?
cmon
thats a tall tale
its a yarn
its a story representing an idea
someone had
but that still doesnt mean it isnt true
necessarily
on some other level
in some other way
thats the trouble
with us westerners
we think that there is the truth
and thats that
one truth
sometimes thats true, too
sometimes however
the thing cannot be defined that way
like for example
how this all got to be here
nowadays they fobb ya off with the big bang
oh yeah mr scientist
there was a big bang
everything exploded to just right
wow that was lucky
one degree to the left
and there goes summer and winter
gee if was spinning a little slower
and if saturn swung in our way
and if the water was saltier, even just a bit
and hang on
you telling me this whole shebang
was a big bang
and out came the fishies and the birdies
and the aminals and the human beens
and music and love
and the summer sky and wine
and children
and beautiful things
just all came outta a huge explosion
isnt that just a little unlikely
but you see
this is a human
and very western problem
to have to see a start and an end
what if it didnt start like that kinda way
i mean
if it wasnt like
there was nothing
suddenly there was everything
the hindus say vishnu dreams these universes
they float out of the pores of his skin
while he sleeps in the causal ocean
there you have another way
of getting the idea across
and the universe is a dream
and youll wake up too
one day and see that
thats how the magic is done you see
some people are awake within this dream
they seem to be doing all kinds of stuff
i dont care if you laugh
ive seen it
ive felt it
but just like in a dream
you can do whatever you want
if only
you realise youre in a dream
thats the hard part right there tho
would be witches n warlocks
its fucking hard to wake up
people try their whole lives
most dont even know theyre asleep
thats why a karate man
can punch thru concrete
why a sadhu can drink poison
why harry houdini
could hold his breath for nearly 7 minutes
submerged in ice
why saviours can be crucified and resurrected
its possible
if you understand not only how
but why
some scientist says god is dead cos he discovers some
chemical or whatever
yes
maybe he has stumbled upon one of gods physical mechanisms
hooray
of course god must use a physical means on a physical plane
if christ turned water into wine
if that happened
of course some druid can always says
that blah blah blah happened to the water
causing blah blah blah
there you go
now you dont need jesus
cos yon boffin has explained it all in
an equation…
or what?
we know hardly anything
even about ourselves
every hundred years a new scientific paradigm comes along
completely replacing what we think
we know
what we think we know
ha ha
anyway dont clog up my comments page
with yer stats and sci fi baloney
the indian sages
many many
many
thousands of years ago
intuited this whole fucken thing
yes they did
they understood that all is vibration
that there is nothing solid or “real”
that its all in yer mind
these guys had the siddhis people
they could levitate
heal
disappear
whatever the hell they wanted actually
they understood the idea of
what we call relativity
both physically and metaphysically
while europeans
were probably still hitting their women with clubs
i dunno
i aint got the facts straight
nobody does
nobody really knows what happened a long time ago
and if they tell ya they do
its just pure bullshit
so imagine
this is all vibration
you can be anyone you like
vishnu
oh that beautiful perfect blue
genius
hes even there in yer heart
keeping yer soul company
whether you know it or not
it doesnt matter
keep yer atheistic moans to yerself
surrender to it
cmon
yeah
but a little more, please…
ok can you feel it?

i can

22 Responses to “immemorial whispers minus the expensive truth”

  1. avatar
    Anonymous | 4 March 2006 at 3:12 am #

    Amen, Steve.

  2. avatar
    mike a | 4 March 2006 at 3:38 am #

    I think you have summed it up really well – there are no “truths” per se – much of it is from our own lense of reality. If you say an apple is red, and another person has no concept of red, is the apple really red? It is just a name given to describe that object. Just by observing something or hearing a name we bring all of our own prejudices forward. One person’s truth does not mean it’s your truth. Our own truths can change day to day as we know more.

    Our western minds also are socialized into a very materialistic society. In studying metaphysics we learn there is nothing really “solid” in our reality. I think many mystics in the past understood this and mastered it. Our minds create our own reality.

    I was reading the Bhagavad Gita with a translation from Juan Mascaro who was Spanish and had to learn Sanskrit. He worked on his own translation because the copy he had read was poorly written. So you see the difficulty in translating when the language was not even his own!! How the wording and meaning must get corrupted from the original writing in 500 BC!! How could a modern person understand the meaning of something written so long ago!!

    Anyways, excellent thoughts sk!!! keep on blogging!!

  3. avatar
    Anonymous | 4 March 2006 at 3:58 am #

    The big bang theory is only slightly more interesting than the Adam/Eve eternal hellfire and damnation one. And I find reading Herodotus to be a much more enjoyable activity than reading the bible if ancient history is what I’m after.

    There is vibration, yes, and as I was a Nietzsche kinda girl in my early 20s I can emphatically state that as far as theories go Vishnu wins hands-down. But I’ll always have a soft spot for ‘ol Bertie Russell. One wonders how he would’ve felt about my agnostic turnaround and the Cayce report I begrudgingly let somebody obtain for me based on birth data that says I was not only an egyptian scribe but a member of royalty, famous british or roman leader, persian diplomat and famous moralist at some point (??). That’d explain the high horse I’m on. But as I’ve supposedly reincarnated to the highest level now according to this data and this is probably my last incarnation, I’d better work on my siddhis. And fast.

    k

  4. avatar
    Krissythegroupie | 4 March 2006 at 4:05 am #

    This makes my head swim..I feel I’s got a lot to learn, man.

  5. avatar
    Nietzsche | 4 March 2006 at 4:37 am #

    God is Dead

  6. avatar
    God | 4 March 2006 at 4:38 am #

    Nietzsche is Dead

  7. avatar
    Krissythegroupie | 4 March 2006 at 5:15 am #

    “I think I’ve found my Nietzche.” ~Ian McCulloch

  8. avatar
    Tony Pucci | 4 March 2006 at 6:29 am #

    Stevio
    Extend Become Vibrate, man
    Hey, I repeat
    find/rent/buy/watch
    the documentary
    “What the Bleep to We Know?”
    Very similar to what you have
    discussed here
    I think you’d enjoy it
    Peace
    Tonio

  9. avatar
    Anonymous | 4 March 2006 at 6:53 am #

    Nice web site, nice work!
    HoneyBunny!
    *****
    Dig

  10. avatar
    Anonymous | 4 March 2006 at 7:48 am #

    Church playng 3 Australian dates to launch ULTC, if you don’t already know in late March.

    Sk just between you and me:

    I have no idea where the Melb Venue is.(can I book tickets)

    I think you going to also need a bigger venue in Bris, Cool bar though.

    and….I can’t wait.

  11. avatar
    Sweed | 4 March 2006 at 11:11 am #

    “the swedes and the engish frequently
    get the wrong end of the stick
    with whats really being said…”

    What do you mean..??

  12. avatar
    Sweed | 4 March 2006 at 11:16 am #

    Sorry…
    nicy bloggy stevie! Sweed likes very mucho…

    (missförstå mig rätt!)

    Älskar dig!

  13. avatar
    Anonymous | 4 March 2006 at 12:53 pm #

    …i agree, nobody knows anything and the sooner we all admit it, the sooner we might just get on with enjoying the illusion.
    look at adam and eve. most christians accept it’s a story, it didn’t really happen.
    but they also believe god sent his son to die for adam and eve’s original sin.
    so in a nutshell, they believe jesus died for something they don’t believe actually happened.
    think jesus got the shitty end of the stick there…

  14. avatar
    i vishiknew | 4 March 2006 at 2:13 pm #

    I simply don’t know, sometimes I’m a believer somtimes I ain’t,so that don’t make an atheist, but I spose it does make me an agnostic.
    There is definitely something under the surface,though.
    Big Bang Christ I don’t know.
    I Vishiknew
    Cheers
    Dig

  15. avatar
    verdelay | 4 March 2006 at 7:41 pm #

    Do you remember the bee I gave you, in a bottle? I gave it to you for nothing, right after the Feast of Enlil, as the moon waned and we waited for the rains to come. I was flirting with your mother in the market square, so I gave you this thing of wonder, this bee in a bottle. It made you both smile, so I smiled too.

    You asked: How Can It Breathe? (the kind of child that asks a lot of questions, even then). I explained that the bottle wasn’t real, but the bee didn’t know that, and that’s why it stays inside (a wink to your pretty mum).

    And you asked: If It’s Not Real, Then How Come I Can See The Bottle, Too?

    So I told you:

    You, child, are the bee…

  16. avatar
    Anonymous | 4 March 2006 at 9:13 pm #

    …good lord, will we never be set free. It’s hammer time…again…and he’s found jesus.

    http://mchammer.blogspot.com

  17. avatar
    CeciliaGin | 4 March 2006 at 10:41 pm #

    …there is no spoon…

  18. avatar
    sue cee | 5 March 2006 at 3:03 am #

    Which is the wrong end of a stick?

  19. avatar
    captainmission | 5 March 2006 at 4:34 am #

    I like the Vibes you make with that band man.

  20. avatar
    rehan from Sri Lanka | 5 March 2006 at 6:28 am #

    “Yeah! i wish, how i vish-nu was here…”

  21. avatar
    buckmoose | 6 March 2006 at 5:21 am #

    When SK said “its like emerald haunt in overdrive…” I got to thinkin’…3000 years from now some archeologist is gonna unearth my crib and brush off the dust and somehow decode my LPs and CDs and see the word “CHURCH” everywhere and publish his findings in some journal which PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that human beinz once believed in a “god” called KilbeyKoppesPowlesWillson-Piper. Some future new age gurus will translate and publish the lyrics as some newly-discovered holy scriptures, like the Dead Sea Scrolls, and will circulate little devotional volumes called the Gospel According to Heyday or the Psalms of St. Remindlessness. There’ll be all this commentary and scholarly disagreements over the secret numerology in “Numbers”. And unfortunately there’ll be charlatons claiming that Nick Ward spoke to them, spoke THROUGH them, that it is Church’s Will that you give all your money to them and go into some country somewhere and kill everyone. “Holy Wars” fought between those who believe in Priest and those who believe in Aura.

    Y’know, Jesus didn’t mean to start no religion, he thought he was just working within his own tradition to make it work a little better and resonate a little deeper. One minute you’re just exercising a little creativity. The next thing you know civilizations are rising and falling over something you wrote down after smoking some good reefer.

    The Song of Solomon or Bhagavad Gita as someone’s album or film script…or even their blog. Scary, huh?

  22. avatar
    Anonymous | 6 March 2006 at 7:34 pm #

    Ever taken a physics class?


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