posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:36 pm
light paws outta me

light paws outta me

apocrypha is indefinitely shelved

i wanted to make a certain kinda record

some weird obtuse masterpiece

some classic epic blah blah blah

(something that means something)

yet what i made was not that

its a collection of songs

no more no less

i mean this is what i did

i set out to do one massive conglomerate

and i came up with all these little bits n pieces

a collection of songs with no theme

with no overall scheme holding the dream in place

i just started and i did some work and this is what i got

my muse is a hard muse to focus

it wants to wander

i have  let it wander

well it wandered right off apocrypha

and straight into this

its more dabble than remindlessness as far as some continuity

its all over the shop

its not really weighty n serious either

i dunno what it is

i aint even gonna try n define (or defend) this record

i gotta still finish it

but i’m gonna hurry up

all those loverly people who just subscribed will probably hear it first

i hope by end o’ jan

maybe even before

a strange bunch of songs for you no doubt

the unlimited choices of Logic recording still baffle me

its hard to grok an artform where you can just do ANYTHING

thank god painting isnt like that

theres only so much you can do at any one stage

but music/songwriting….wow!

it is bewildering a bit to me who left off for a long while

i dont even know why i did but i did

i dont know why i do things …i just do

some vague force guides me i guess

anyway in the last year i seriously got back into home recording


the unlimited nature of it often slows me right down

what do ya wanna do in yer song?

because youve got options coming out the grand wazoo at any step of the game

unlimited tracks

unlimited sounds

unlimited effects

unlimited ways of doing things

(simon polinski ,say,uses this program differently to me to write songs)

everyone can use it differently in different combinations


that is slightly hard for me to deal with

because being an imaginative and meandering kind of fool

i’m better off having an easy path to follow

which you did in the old days

with tape recorders and stuff


there is a thousand paths

i’m a bit baffled therefore

i’m a horse that needs blinders

you mustnt let me see everything at once  (baby)

i need my process but my processes mind was blown by logic

so many sounds n loops n tricks n gadgets n stuff

its all in one (virtual) box

so as i cope with logic

(its like imagine if you had a red and a blue and a yellow pencil

then one day you got the sennelier box set with 120 pastels!)

the sky being the limit

so as i cope with this freedom  (a paradox)

i have recorded loads n loads of things

most of this record was intended to be apocrypha

but it aint i just know it

so i will tell you its name when it arrives i guess

(the albums steve kilbey rejects)

i reckon some of you will really likey

some of you will say oh i see why it isnt apocrypha …

and most wont care if they like the tunes

and there is some incredibly catchy tunes

which isnt normally my hallmark, is it? my catchiness…?

but here i have been damned catchy and i dont care

in some ways it unsurprisingly reminds me of garage sutra

in as far as the songs go

the songs are the important thing not the other stuff

of course on apocrypha the songs were supposed to be strong too

but there was to be /will be “other stuff” involved …

here its just a buncha songs stuff free

free of any idea that puts them together

or anything

the sound of steve kilbey fucking around with logic

unlike garage sutra the bass guitar is back in a big throbbing way

and of course electric guitar and keyboards and live percussion

but its still very pop tunes-ey

you may like that

you may not

anyway thatll be coming down pipeline imminently

good on ya!



49 Responses to “this is not apocrypha…no! (la la la la la)”

  1. avatar
    sharon daniel | 2 January 2013 at 5:03 pm #

    “the sound of steve kilbey fucking around with logic”, well I’ll listen to that as will many others!

  2. avatar
    DR | 2 January 2013 at 5:21 pm #

    This is not apocrypha – usually if your not happy with it we r gonna love it !

  3. avatar
    Michel | 2 January 2013 at 5:40 pm #

    May I suggest “crypha” as a name for the record ?
    Apocrypha or not, this is very exciting news !
    Can’t wait to hear “la la la la la”…
    And don’t forget : in the end, WE will decide if it’s a masterpiece.

  4. avatar
    Kohl Ette | 2 January 2013 at 6:15 pm #

    Hee hee sorry can’t help but giggle … things never turn out as planned, do they?!

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    Anonymous | 2 January 2013 at 7:22 pm #

    I love your electric guitar playing. Iggy said that when Bowie played electric guitar he was often pushing at the limits of his ability with it and this gave his playing an edge, a sense almost of desperation, that ‘normal’ guitarists just couldn’t replicate. I hear much of this edgy going-for-it quality in yours. If this struggle withthe technology has brought out this aspect in other areas of the recordings, I’ll be more than happy!

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    andy | 2 January 2013 at 7:35 pm #!
    i avoid logic and all that other stuff like the plague….
    the failed stuff IS digitaly recorded and the keys are powered by VST(infinite choice of sounds)…but ’tis all recorded live and in real-time,
    quite poorly played(although to the best of our limited abillities)and never ‘cleaned up’.
    i’d get too lazy with logic steve, or it would lead me up the wrong path.
    i prefer to keep things ‘organic’ if poss….think ‘mystic western people’ all feel,no flash!
    your’e a great tune/wordsmith steve…and a willful manne too,so you will have sensed the pitfalls and avoided them making the system work for YOU.
    new music from the tree-tops?…yeah..bring it on!

  7. avatar
    Ryan Murdock | 2 January 2013 at 9:24 pm #

    Excellent. I bet this will be good stuff. It’s impossible to evaluate your own work. Maybe you can do it later with a bit of distance, but by then are your views just clouded by the feedback of others? I liked Dabble, there was some really good stuff on that. And I’ve always liked that your solo albums were a bit strange compared to The Church stuff – some experimental sounding songs, some stuff I didn’t get straight away (but that often became my favourites later on), some unexpected stuff that seemed to come outta nowhere (now here?). Great to see you hard at it again – those tape deck home recording days were such a prolific period, be cool to see a Renaissance II.

    • avatar
      Admin | 2 January 2013 at 9:48 pm #

      expect to not expect the unexpectedly …oh forget it…!

  8. avatar
    Cath | 2 January 2013 at 9:28 pm #

    Well S.K
    This is what i reckon
    You are the dream holding them in place, they can’t make it into the universe without you can they…little asteroids and planet dreamings from the distant world of imagining….Planet limit logic, planet overwhelm, planet of electric phase, global palette in a box, flavours supreme, better then earthly, sounds surreal,taste delightful……melodies filtering through, nymphs pulling you this way and that in your foreign sea.

    Why can’t your sound palette be black and white. This song has this, this has to has that, you are a multimodlaist, its just you painting differently. Maybe the bass is a ruby red road today…..with chimes twinkling like stars…… mimicking beings with bodies one cant even imagine cause they have so many fingers they can play them all at once…….
    It’s so amazing what magic we can make…what music……idea yeh great…..but the thought catcher often has to surrender the silken thread ….confucius say…….

    He who empty pitcher fetch more water lol

    Happy new year ! ALL THE BEST Cx

  9. avatar
    John Garratt | 3 January 2013 at 12:32 am #

    “some vague force guides me i guess”


    “The air has some command in it…”

    Do what you gotta do.

  10. avatar
    Steven Krut | 3 January 2013 at 4:15 am #

    I think your hallmark – at least to me – is melody. A good melody is catchy, I guess. Hey, Steve, I listen a lot to your folk/country-ish songs on Andendatwo. They’re VERY good. Maybe you could do a folk genre exercise. It suits you so well. You’re voice is perfect for it and it’s a genre that highlights the words. Also, it’s a great musical platform for taking on all the injustices in the world, which again suits you. I think you could make a brilliant folk rock album. And that would provide the focus you’re looking for. Forgive me if you have already done this earlier in your career. I’m still exploring your back catalog.

  11. avatar
    Anonymous | 3 January 2013 at 5:02 am #

    so, let me get this straight… you put the lime in the coconut (this time)? sounds refreshing.

  12. avatar
    Kohl Ette | 3 January 2013 at 7:50 am #

    Meditation on an oval portal
    awash with egg wash
    and bathed in delightful afternoon light.
    Realising (if that is really the word)
    why the muse might be confused.
    Flippant quip dropped.
    Play stopped.
    How the maestro
    fixes his gaze.
    Amazing if not for the distraction
    of refraction and the
    from where does the light emanate?
    He, me, we or a medium?
    Is the medium a thin flat film between,
    like agar on a plate
    or something surrounding,
    round like tiger’s eye?
    Then she sees
    this new perspective again.
    Well is it new, or only newly conscious?
    – the feline eye view
    of kitty or tom?
    Or mirroring both,
    each on and on?

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      Admin | 3 January 2013 at 8:06 am #


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        Kohl Ette | 3 January 2013 at 10:15 pm #


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          Kohl Ette | 4 January 2013 at 9:06 am #

          Perfect vs Purrfect:
          Where to go from perfection?
          How frightening.
          Is this it?
          Downhill now?
          An unfair achievement.
          No one’s perfect.
          Some will criticise you
          saying you are untrue.
          Funny how things appear
          and disappear from the woodwork.
          I guess to be criticised,
          you have to have a self
          apparent enough to become a target.
          As said t s eliot
          or was it j alfred purrfork?
          Oh… you said purrfect
          not perfect?
          I got it!
          Quite a different
          perfectly imperfect effect!

  13. avatar
    Stephen | 3 January 2013 at 8:20 am #

    why not look at releasing digital EPs, or even be releasing songs on a regular basis, rather than being tied to the concept of ‘the album’?

    if you are exploring the potential of ‘cutting out the middleman’, and much of the faff of music industry mechanisms, then surely this is an avenue worth exploring?

    I know there are the purists who hold the album as a kind of holy grail (and I still like to buy CDs myself), but you can’t let yourself be paralysed by adherence to traditions which are being superseded. Time and tide…


    from my own experience of Garageband/Logic recording over the last 18 months I have found that rarely do things turn out as planned. In fact a lot of the things that I like best are those that are fortunate experiments. Surely often it’s a case of just capturing a mood, snapshots?

    For example, a favourite of my own pieces is just a recording of exploring how certain chords worked together. So it’s hesitant, but kinda goes places. There’s electrical and fret buzz, digital pops, some notes maybe sounding slightly off … but it has character!!! For some reason it always reminds me of a ok day during summertime and makes me smile. Sometimes that’s enough.

    I have also found Logic to be a bit daunting, and sometimes just like to work in Garageband initially with a few sounds that I like. This helps me to get the ‘sketch’ in place, and further work can be done in Logic later.


    I picked up a copy of Tindersticks ‘Trouble Every Day’ OST recently. Somebody wrote a review on Amazon complaining that it was basically variations on the same song, but I actually find it interesting because it highlights different elements and textures.

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      Admin | 3 January 2013 at 11:28 am #

      i agree in principle….but…album is too ingrained in me
      agree with comments on garageband/logic too

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    Trevor \|/ | 3 January 2013 at 9:12 am #

    “Apocrypha” would make a great title for the next Church album (?)

  15. Kraig
    Kraig | 3 January 2013 at 4:18 pm #

    Whatever you do Steve it will be kick ass and cool man! Shoot the guns off when it’s done because it will be epic! I love you Steve and i love the fact that all of us can talk and speak with one another like friends. That is so welcoming to this blog, friendship! Love all you guys…peace and love, Kraigmeistercentral! Now i wanna hear a sneak peak, can we for us SKPers? Cheers, Prost, Salude, and just plain Thank You for being who you are, we love you and trust you for what’s in store as always…”IT WILL BE GREAT, maybe EPIC!”

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    Crasher | 3 January 2013 at 4:49 pm #

    right then.
    fuck it’s hot in not very trendy (alright not trendy at all) greensborough.
    not very green either..i’ve been cleaning the garage. silly thing to do
    played garage sutra in there…i think the heat’s affected me.
    and it’s gonna be 40 something tomorrow..wish i was 40 something too.
    actually i suppose i am 40…something.
    i mean even being 80 is 40 something isn’t it?
    fuck it’s hot…roll on winter.

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    Heather Daydream | 3 January 2013 at 6:02 pm #

    Catchy is good. I look forward to holding up the lighter and/or singing along and you getting paid directly and richly (handsome is good, pretty is better). Don’t sign this up with anyone…pleeeease….

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    Vanderbilt Boondocks | 3 January 2013 at 8:37 pm #

    Given the use of ‘Apocrypha’ in Biblical Studies to mean texts omitted from the New Testament, it would’ve been the perfect title for an album of ‘non-canonical’ songs – ie. the various demos/outtakes sets you’ve put out.

    I agree with the guy who said you could make a wonderful folk rock album – that stuff never sounded like I thought it should, but you’d be the man to nail it. I say this because ‘acid rock’ also never sounded like I thought it would – until I heard Roomful of Diamonds. THAT’S how acid rock should always have sounded! You’re absolutely the right man for the psychedelic folk/acid folk job, Steven, but ultimately I’m not sure your mercurial creativity should be limited to that one area, even if it was just for a one-off ‘project’. Would be a sterling effort though, sir!

  19. avatar
    12str | 4 January 2013 at 3:09 am #

    Gonna buy it…….

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    Stewart | 4 January 2013 at 6:42 am #

    Logic sure has a host of options. I look forward to hearing what you’re doing.
    I’m back in the groove. I’m streaming music and lyrics and ideas. My guitars are re-grafted limbs. The first tender touches of a new digital stage piano yesterday were full of sweet memories and promise – not the prodigal’s anguish that has too often overwhelmed me since I ran away from the circus to join the suits. So I lost some time in the wilderness – Fuck it. 10 months vegan – I’m feeling better than I have for years.

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      Admin | 4 January 2013 at 9:27 am #

      im pleased to hear that youre vegan still stewart
      and pleased to hear youre making music!
      much power to ya!

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        Stewart | 5 January 2013 at 8:22 am #

        Thanks for the inspiration.

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    verdelay | 4 January 2013 at 8:35 am #

    Harry Flowers’ 10 Pearls of Digital Recording Wisdom

    1. Songwriter/musicians are (usually) not sound engineers. To make digital home recording sound even half decent the artiste will need to learn how to be a sound engineer. This is incredibly tedious and takes an age;

    2. Half decent is probably as good as any self-respecting artiste will want to take it. Any more and their Muse will start sleeping with other people;

    3. The artiste will invariably become adept at spot fixing – solve the immediate wiring/patching/software incompatibility/ground loop hum problem and then get on with the recording. This in turn leads to Troubleshooting Amnesia whereupon the same problem occurs three months later and the artiste can’t quite remember what they did about it last time;

    4. Deliberate limitation is the artiste’s friend: as the possibilities are endless they have to impose their own boundaries. Would that we could stare into the face of God, but that way lies madness;

    5. Initially the artiste’s limits will take the form of abject bafflement in how to get the most out of the kit. This is an unhappy state of affairs. The artiste’s imagination will begin to stride around petulantly inside his/her skull screeching arcane curses at their clumsy efforts to get the “things” to do “stuff”;

    6. Eventually an equilibrium will be reached. As with the brain, the artiste will only use 10% of the gear’s capabilities. This is more than enough, but the artiste will feel inadequate/lazy/like they are missing out on something fundamental anyway;

    7. There are good mistakes and bad mistakes; happy accidents and unhappy accidents; serendipitous occurrences that make for a good record, and those that make the record sound like the work of a fumbling amateur. The latter will outweigh the former for longer than the artiste can stomach;

    8. The difference between digital home recording and live onstage performance is the difference between film and theatre. Talents do not always transfer well from one medium to the other;

    9. The artiste soon learn where to start; they will almost never learn when to stop;

    10. Digital home recording eats time like a blue whale eats krill.


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      Admin | 4 January 2013 at 9:26 am #

      amazing! yes! i agree with every one in spades
      almost like an oblique strategies in reverse
      you never cease to amaze me flowers!

      • avatar
        verdelay | 4 January 2013 at 11:02 pm #

        “Never cease to amaze” sounds like the perfect artistic creed or manifesto. Long may we both live by it.


  22. avatar
    Anonymous | 4 January 2013 at 8:43 pm #

    Ere, Steve, I know you reckon that version of Friction on Box of Birds is pretty poor, but I’ve heard church do killer versions of it live, so what went wrong?

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      Admin | 4 January 2013 at 10:26 pm #

      dunno. its just lifeless

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        andy | 5 January 2013 at 8:11 am #

        yet ‘cortez’ is quite stunning.
        ‘silver machine’ was the one i felt was a bit ‘by the numbers’ but to be fair to the band, much as i like early hawkwind, it’s a pretty routine sort of song anyhow!

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          Admin | 5 January 2013 at 8:30 am #

          i agree

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            Trevor \|/ | 5 January 2013 at 7:32 pm #

            …and “The Porpoise Song” & “Decadence” are just sublime in my opinion.

            Trevor (in a very crispy Tasmania!) \|/

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            Admin | 5 January 2013 at 7:51 pm #

            you ok down there?

          • avatar
            Trevor \|/ | 6 January 2013 at 8:24 am #

            Yes, we’re fine…a long way from ‘ground zero’ at the other end of the island. Still a lot of smoke around from other spot fires here in the north though. From the weather/busfire alert report this morning it seems that you guys in NSW could be next in line…keep safe!

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            Admin | 6 January 2013 at 9:50 am #

            glad yer ok, man!

          • avatar
            Trevor \|/ | 6 January 2013 at 10:31 am #

            Thanks! Still counting our blessings…if it wasn’t for the fact I’ve had to work on this overdue uni assignment we’d be camping down at Bicheno/Friendly Beaches now, right where the other major fire is….!

            Trevor \|/

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