posted on May 11, 2006 at 8:39 am

a big hello to all the firearms enthusiasts
who set me straight on guns
why gandhi loved guns…even the one that shot him
why jesus loves guns
why we need more guns
guns for everyone
thank you
now please desist
you and i are diametrically opposed
guns are made to kill and maim from a distance
you see in the olden days
you actually had to have some skill
and some balls
if ya wanted to kill another man
but guns made it much much much easier
jus’ squeeze that cute lil trigger, kidss
cmon you dont have to know nuthin’
bang bang
you just saved liberty

look im sorry
i tolerate most stuff on here
but i think you got the wrong blogg mister
i dont know frankly why youre here at all
you mustnt have listened to my songs, dude
you werent tuned into my wavelength, amigo
so look im sure
theres plenty of bloggs and chat pages
where you guys can go
talk your brave and big talk
about fucking militias and assault rifles
and dum dums
hand grenades
(every family needs em to protect
the land of the free)
why stop there
free bazookas
rockets
the whole lot
you see guns save lives
guns stop wars
guns are better for ya than pot
guns are your right
guns are your best friends
guns never hurt no one
(they was framed!)
guns are safe
guns are manly
guns are for the free and rebellious
try shooting
youll like it

im sorry
i think you got it so wrong
that we aint on the same page
what are you doing here
please
please
please
no more progun stuff
im asking ya respectfully
i ask you as a son of a man who gave 5 years of his youth
shooting and being shot at
in france, italy and germany
HE DESPISED GUNS
BRING ON YER BILE
IT LL BE MANNA TO ME
sk

156 Responses to “wear a breast and be proud but bare gunns aint allowed”

  1. avatar
    jet1972 | 11 May 2006 at 9:11 am #

    as andy p
    from xtc
    would sing
    “melt the guns”

  2. avatar
    Sweed | 11 May 2006 at 9:14 am #

    Way to go Steve!! No guns!!
    I’m sick of people like Charlton Heston and his crew. Sick!

  3. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 9:15 am #

    so Steve, you don’t it is right for people to have guns and kill others but you think it is ok for people to kill themselves (and others if they are dealers) with drugs…mmmm.

  4. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 9:19 am #

    hey,
    i just want to send you loving vibes for tomorrow
    i know it will be hard
    and i know you are hurting
    but let your heart shine
    for your friend
    and for yourself
    and allow arcane elixirs
    to hold you

  5. avatar
    rubikon | 11 May 2006 at 9:24 am #

    I have no need or use whatsoever for a gun. What would I do with it…shoot someone,something…I’ve no particular desire to do that.

    “happiness is a warm gun” said John Lennon or was it Mark Chapman?

  6. avatar
    Mal | 11 May 2006 at 10:09 am #

    *shakes head*

    I can’t think of any situations that is made better by guns. I am so glad that they are not part of our culture here.
    And it is way too simplistic to equate a loaded fit with a loaded gun!
    Spend some time walking through a Commonwealth war grave – the waste, the utter waste.
    My thoughts will be with you tomorrow Mr K.

  7. avatar
    Jnfr | 11 May 2006 at 10:13 am #

    Yet one more reason to be happy I moved from the US to Australia. I know every country has its problems, but when a country has its own National Rifle Assoc. headed by an actor? C’mon, “Live Free or Die”, “The Right to Bear Arms”? This isn’t 1776 anymore.

    Jennifer

  8. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 10:13 am #

    Well said sk! I can’t believe a blogger actually “invited” you to spend an afternoon at a rifle range shooting place….ONLY IN AMERICA!!!

    love always,
    Amanda P

  9. avatar
    timetunnel | 11 May 2006 at 10:54 am #

    To the gun-freaks out there: just watch “Bowling for Columbine” by Michael Moore, especially the part about the differences between Canada and the States, which was very surprising information for me. This isn’t the best documentary ever made, but it gives a good insight into that topic.

    Jens

  10. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 11:30 am #

    I’d love to live in a world with no guns, but what is worse…a nation where ONLY the government has the right to have guns, or one where the people haven’t allowed that right to be stripped from them? When the government has a monopoly on weapons, the people are at far greater risk of having their freedoms stripped from them. This was exactly what happened in the Soviet Union in the 1920s.

    And nobody ever invades Switzerland. There, every household has a gun, and gun crime is not an issue. The Swiss know a thing or two about freedom.

  11. avatar
    Krissythegroupie | 11 May 2006 at 11:47 am #

    Seriously, whose blog do they think this is..Ted Nugent’s?! Sheesh!

  12. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 1:13 pm #

    It’s OK for you to be opposed to our view. But just recognize that it just ain’t realistic. Governments kill people. I laugh at you because you just can’t grasp the irony that such a deep knowledgeable man such as yourself has no clue about the nature of man and history. But here we go, all the mindless among us will bow down and kiss your shoes. Yeah SK put ’em in their place. This blog ain’t no place. It’s Ok for me SK to have an opinion. I’m such a knowing man. I feel sorry for your family. I hope you’re right, I hope we never have to use guns. But if we are living among the seeds of facism in the Oceania free societies, then having no guns ain’t a strategy. Crossing your fingers ain’t a strategy. Crossing you legs and your eyes ain’t a strategy. Not caring about politics ain’t a strategy. It’s 1938, the world has not a care, but to have meaningful work and entertainment. See what happens next.

    It’s just a gutless attack for you to assume gun owners (“enthusiasts”) are bad people. You might as well call a black man a “nigga” cause you only see a difference in skin here SK. “Cchhru fans can’t have guns, now we seen it all.” Oh please, let us into the exclusive cchhru club where a dum and be proud brain cells ain’t allowed.

  13. avatar
    Centuryhouse | 11 May 2006 at 1:29 pm #

    Steve, I have been a Church fan since 1988. I have over 90 LPs/CDs/tapes/Vids etc. I have flown from far off to see your shows. I have helped create other fans and been friends with many other fans.

    I don’t think this can continue however. I believe you have lost a long time Church / SK fan today.

    As much as I respect your music, this item pisses me off and has caused a loss of respect for you as a person.

    The things you said in this blog today indicate to me that you suffer from a terrible ignorance on the subject of lawfully owned firearms and the vast majority of people that own them. You have bought into the horribly untrue Michael Moore propaganda stereotype of gun owners. You have a total lack of understanding as to what persons like myself are about. If being ignorant doesn’t bother you, then continue on. If you ever have a sincere desire to know the truth (doubtful) about lawful, peacable gun ownes then contact me.

    I didn’t “get” the idea of guns myself until the last 5 years – it’s not like I was raised around them. I was pretty much an anti-gun pacifist my whole life until now. I learned some things about history, human nature, the use of guns themselves, etc which is what changed it for me.

    I think I understand where you ar coming from on the issue pretty well and do “get” your music and where you are coming from. I think the sentiments are great for the most part, and have held many of them myself.

    Unfortunately you have bought hard into the Hollywood/Rambo false stereotype. You then dump that stereotype onto me and others. You insult me. I can tolerate the ignorance and lack of understanding regarding guns & gun owners or even a well thought out difference of opinion, but I will never tolerate disrespect from you or anyone else.

    This is your blog, and I respectfully leave you to it. I will leave you to your music also, but will not be able to listen to it any more. I don’t expect you or anyone else to lose sleep over that.

    It’s been a good 18 years as a fan, but there is other music out there being made by people who do not use their ignorance as a basis for attacking me personally.

  14. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 1:43 pm #

    oh, sk, there is beauty in wine.
    especially when we are speaking of
    organic and bio-dynamic viticulture. and there are quite a few of us who support completely, naturally made wines with lower alcohol percentages. chapitalization is such a manipulative, silly process anyway.
    i would love to talk to you about the theory of”terroir”. they’re are wines available that when experienced in ambient conditions are very much like hearing your songs on at exactly the right time and in the right circumstances……..

    and you don’t have to tour texas if you don’t want to. just play a few extra nights in atlanta. a very green city. or why not just come to asheville, n.c., play the orange peel, walk thru our lovely little bohemian city,. lots of vegan dishes, the san francisco of the east. the in-breeding has caused us not to be able to shoot straight.

    hahahaha

    richard

  15. avatar
    persephone2u | 11 May 2006 at 1:44 pm #

    Guns never hurt no one, they was framed bwahahahahaha! Thanks Steve, that was f’ing hilarious. Thank god I wasn’t drinking anything near my computer when I read this entry.

    What are gun enthusiasts doing here anyway? Seems a bit of an unlikely place really…

  16. avatar
    G. Michael | 11 May 2006 at 2:36 pm #

    Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?.

  17. avatar
    John Garratt | 11 May 2006 at 2:36 pm #

    jet1972, you beat me to it! But I’ll say it anyway.

    “You’ll gather your senses I’m sure and agree to melt the guns.”

    Andy Partridge, 1982

  18. avatar
    J.W.Lennon | 11 May 2006 at 2:40 pm #

    Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?

  19. avatar
    A. Lincoln | 11 May 2006 at 2:41 pm #

    Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?.

  20. avatar
    M. Ghandi | 11 May 2006 at 2:41 pm #

    Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?.

  21. avatar
    R.Kennedy | 11 May 2006 at 2:42 pm #

    Is that a pistol in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?.

  22. avatar
    Apache Gunman | 11 May 2006 at 2:49 pm #

    centuryhouse,

    I don’t think you should take SK’s attack personally. I’m pretty sure it was aimed (pun intended) at me, not you, anyway. I will go on listening to the cchru, I still respect Sk as an artist and really don’t care if he never gets it. Let’s just hope he doesn’t become a dual citizen and vote in the U.S. That would be a shame.

    I was originally put off at the lackadaisical manner in which SK puported to offer solutions to all of evil America’s problems, yet fell exactly into the same camp where it’s fashionable to hate America and attack its foundation. Does he think we don’t know Boy Georgie W. isn’t a 2 faced liar running things into the ground? The drug war is the least of our problems. Boy Georgie W. has the world conned into thinking he’s just a backwoods, fishin’ fool. But it’s quite calculated. I’ll go a step farther than SK and say that the CIA has been running the drugs all along. There have been many ex-CIA who have come out and said they ran missions flying full C130 cargo planes into the U.S. full of coke, where it was then sold on the black market to fund black Op’s. Drugs are not not illegal in order to save dopies, it’s illegal because it’s more profitable on the black market. It’s easy to get pot when you want some, who cares if pot is legal or illegal. Non sequitur.

    Though all of SK’s projected wisdom, he just had to slag it on gun owners. That’s where I stepped out and said he’s wrong. He attacks evil America and doesn’t realize the current situation is a perversion of the country’s foundation – a foundation that guaranteed firearms and free speech and free religion and redress of grievances to preserve not destroy. A foundation where the people rule themselves, but now it is perverted into a left vs. right sideshow of feudal mega corporations, the millitary industrial complex, and international fiat banking.

    If they can get you to only acknowledge left and right, then you are a flatlander. You miss forward, back, up, down, within, without, string theory, etc. If America were run as she was intended, per the Constitution and Bill of Rights, she would be a zero world nation leaving the first world in the lower echelons of hell. Don’t kid yourself, there is no “free” market in America or anywhere else. Just organized cartels and guilds and inbred crime. Collectivism. Others call this socialism or communism or facism or tyranny. Pick any name.

    So when SK says:

    “would ya rather a drug user
    or a gun enthusiast move in next door”

    “i lost my possessions
    that was the easy part
    but its like being possessed in itself
    an evil spirit took up residence in my soul”

    I say:
    “Gun enthusiast. See I have nothing against any drug use in moderation. But who can say for sure that the drug user you would rather have moving in next door won’t lose your possessions as well as his own. Who’s to say they are not also a bad gun user and would risk your family too? How deep does the sickness go? SK controlled his, but that is not the rule for serious opiate addiction. I know gun “enthusiasts” keep to themselves and love others and their country. So I say fuck right off. Be a manna and admit you’re not as enlightened as you might think.”

  23. avatar
    Bill Hicks | 11 May 2006 at 2:56 pm #

    “Pick up the GUN!”

  24. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 3:10 pm #

    Mister Steevie,

    Let’s talk about karma.

    I have to say that my gun ownership has hurt less people in life than you have with your drug use.

    You have caused injury and hurt to many around you, through your enslavement to illegal drugs. You have also hurt others by your unkind conduct when meeting them in person.

    Shooting a 12″ metal gong at 500 meters with my AR15 has never hurt one single person.

    You have also injured yourself (including broken bones & jail stays) by your drug use. Owning a gun has never caused me to hurt myself.

    So which is better, mr kilbey? At this point, I think my karma has been better than yours.

    I would also say that I trust a gun owner more in raising their kids – trust them much more than I would some guy who is doped out of his mind because he can’t deal with reality sans drugs.

  25. avatar
    Brad | 11 May 2006 at 3:12 pm #

    Bullseye in the mirror? Crosshairs standing on the back of your neck? Come high noon, some people just shoot themselves in the foot. When you wake up locked and loaded, you’re waiting to get hurt. The band jammed and so do guns. SK has no bullet for the charts anymore, but seems he’s got a sharp dagger in his coat.

    No easy kill from a hill. Herbal cures for cause rather than synthetics for a symptom. Clicks to the right, clicks to the left. Seven Ten Split.

    Clipped a shot from a magazine. No holsterz for words. Hit the safety.

    Guns are lazy. Glory’s a lie.

    b

  26. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 3:18 pm #

    Michael Moore is just a left wing hack in my view. I believe he doesn’t have anything against the policies of the U.S. at all. What he’s against is the fact the policies are being implemented by a right wing government, not a left wing government. He’d be silent if there was a communist/ socialist government in the U.S. handing out guns to kids at high schools.
    Also, the attack against guns in the U.S. is just a decoy. What the left are really attacking is the U.S. constitution. Once you get rid of the right to bear arms, then that’s created a precedent to get rid of the other rights. Nice bit of hypocrisy there.
    It’s just a shame that right was put there in the first place. Cheers, comrades. Leon.

  27. avatar
    RA | 11 May 2006 at 3:19 pm #

    Ted Nugent,Charlton Heston, Firearms… am I in the right place?

    I almost feel silly saying I agree with SK as I may be seen as a sycophant, but in do, so there it is.

    Peace,

    Richard

  28. avatar
    civil war lament | 11 May 2006 at 3:23 pm #

    i don’t want to dump gasoline on the fire, but it’s nice to see several people stand up for gun ownership and say what’s right. Even our heroes can have distorted views.

  29. avatar
    civil war lament | 11 May 2006 at 3:25 pm #

    Nugent is a fool. He’s exactly why gun owners get a bad name. Running around killing living things for sport, participating in unreality teevee, making teen cherries rough it in the woods with no creature comforts. Well that last one was a joke, really Nugent is a bonehead.

  30. avatar
    brant | 11 May 2006 at 3:28 pm #

    steve…first, just wanted to say thanks for allowing some of us into your world with this website. been a fan of your work for a long time…and grant’s too. i discovered each of you separately, and then when you joined forces i knew i had done something right.
    i’m a painter myself, and spent many days and nights for many years conjuring up images while taking in all those great songs. when i heard about grant i felt myself slip into some sort of grey hole…i’m still in it a bit…but reading your words and the words of others who felt it all helped. i never knew him…just a fan…met you once having a cig outside the bowery(’98? maybe.) anyway, it’s nice that technology has provided us this connection in a sad time. thanks for the music, the words, and the images…and for allowing me a few words.

    brant

  31. avatar
    civil war lament | 11 May 2006 at 3:29 pm #

    Michael Moore was asked why he didn’t go after the hardcore smoking guns on the 911 issue, such as NORAD standing down and WTC7 falling from fire when no steel structure has ever in the history of buildings fallen from a fire. It doesn’t get hot enough to melt steel. U/L engineers said so, the Society of Firefighters said so. Guess what he said – “It’s Unamerican” to have the view our government did it. He’s just the left’s answer to Limbaugh. Carry on.

  32. avatar
    Brad | 11 May 2006 at 3:34 pm #

    My “poetry” above will be misuderstood so I’ll add – Guns as “fun” is for idiots.

    There are those who have been put in positions where they HAD to use guns to kill and there was no glory or bravado in it.

    It is an Americentric idiot who can’t see that America is NOT better off with guns and that the rest of the world is fine without their view. We are stuck with guns now. Get your heads out of Limbaugh’s Bushaholic ass.

    Wow, suprised myself there. I’m actually not angry – just surprised that people can actually see the world so wrongly.

    I once told the same defensive Texan that I liked tracks xyz on his sample CD and he thought that meant I hated his music. So don’t worry about him.

    b

  33. avatar
    CeciliaGin | 11 May 2006 at 3:37 pm #

    …and let’s not forget that opinions are like a@@holes, everyone has one and nobody thinks theirs stinks…

    Consulting my magic 8 ball:
    Are guns good, magic 8 ball?
    “Doubt it”

    Is pot ok, magic 8 ball?
    “Rely on it”

    One try for each question, I swear!
    (what do you mean, I lie?)
    Cecilia

  34. avatar
    shiva | 11 May 2006 at 3:49 pm #

    Are guns good, magic 8 ball?
    “Doubt it”

    OK everybody turn in their guns. Ok guns are now gone. What’s that, knives you say? Well they must go too. Now, gone with stones, bricks, hammers, coal and straw. All blunt force and sharp stickies have been turned in, outlawed and banned.

    Hands you say? Well those must go too I’m afraid. Ah, the mind, yes the mind. The root of violence. I have a solution.

  35. avatar
    John Garratt | 11 May 2006 at 3:50 pm #

    Hey Centuryhouse,

    I’ll take all your old Church stuff.

    John

  36. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 4:04 pm #

    Yesh, Centuryhouse, let us know when you hold your Churchie merch giveaway.
    Sorry to jump on your idea John G, but it’s a dang good one!

    Me, the vulture is hovering…

  37. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 4:07 pm #

    OK off the guns track still on your spinal problems.

    Steve I’m probably telling you something you already know but you know why your back is hurting. It’s the stress of your loss. Have you really cried yet? If you have not you need to release. And don’t pull any mucho bullshit real men do cry. Go somewhere you feel secure and you can be alone and just let it out then meditate. Lay down for yoga nidra rather then sitting up. Practice ahimsa and stay away from strenuous poses. Stand in tadasana go inside and go with an unconscious restorative flow your body and subconscious will know what is needed.

  38. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 5:30 pm #

    I was just listening to the “Cat Scratch Fever” album the other day. A good ol’ slab of 70s rock. I think the Nuge is a twerp, but that doesn’t matter, because do we really want to find out about all the peccadillos of the rock musicians we listen to? Just because you love someone’s music doesn’t mean their actual personality will be a projection of yours- you can’t ask that. They will have opinions you don’t agree with, some strongly held. To stop listening to one of your favourite musicians because he virulently opposes your country’s affection for firearms is silly. It’s the music that matters, not the musician. Having said that, I’m happy to find that SK’s ethics fit nicely with my own. I’ve been listening to his tunes for half my life now. If you don’t want to know what he really thinks about stuff, don’t read his personal blog, I guess.

  39. avatar
    Civil Servant #69 | 11 May 2006 at 5:31 pm #

    Three Thoughts from a German farmhouse.

    Hegemony or survival, your choice. Men in quarries connect their bomb, 1,2,3 and use sack cloth.

    Peace to You GW, you will be greatly and genuinely missed.

    Eskay – Thank you for your candor, I’m addicted to your thoughts and may need some antimethodmandone.

    That is all.

  40. avatar
    Belfrank | 11 May 2006 at 5:40 pm #

    Hey there Centuryhouse & the everso brave Mr Anonymous. Both of you aka Mr Big Fan.
    So ole SK ain’t allowed an opinion too – you have to stop listing to his music coz he no like the guns.
    B/S – How can you expect a man who has spent his live dedicated to creativity in the forms of beautiful music, prose and art to support the widespread distribution of weapons of destruction.
    I was raised in Belfast in Northern Ireland and know the pain that guns can bring. Have you ever seen a man get gunned down in cold blood on the street in front of you? Would you still be a fan.
    An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
    The American example is proof. Go check the stats on deaths by shooting in the UK where guns ain’t legal versus the Land Of The Free where they are. It’s f**k all to do with Michael Moore or the Bushy boy.
    Let any bugger get his hands on a gun and you live with the consequences. What motivates a man to have a gun. Fear or hatred genereally. Both things our world needs alot less of. AMEN.
    Belfrank
    Dublin
    Ireland

  41. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 5:55 pm #

    “…you have bought hard into the Hollywood/Rambo false stereotype. You then dump that stereotype onto me and others. You insult me. I can tolerate the ignorance and lack of understanding regarding guns & gun owners or even a well thought out difference of opinion, but I will never tolerate disrespect from you or anyone else.”

    it doesn’t sound like sk having a differing opinion has anything to do with the problem

    it sounds like his stereotyping and ugliness to those with a non-sk opinion was the issue

  42. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 5:57 pm #

    steve,
    appreciate your candor on this “guns” issue. I grew up in USA (now living in Europe), and I have never been able to understand the gun culture in USA. I have tried to understand, just to try and be fair/open minded, etc., but I simply think the gun culture in USA has been far more destructive than useful. I am not exactly sure why many here are so offended by your personal views that you are expressing on YOUR blog. I dont agree with everything you write, but I fully support you having your say on your own blog. Keep writing! peace. KevinN

  43. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 6:00 pm #

    No, SK thinks it’s wrong to own guns. Period. Black and white, yes, but insulting- no. It’s not really an issue on which one can take the middle ground. Americans defend their time-honoured rights vigorously, but most of the rest of us just don’t agree. Yup, I’m a wimpy Canadian. Most of us don’t have guns, and our government doesn’t seem to be oppressing us particularly.

    I mean, it’s his blog, innit? You don’t like it, just DON’T READ IT! And sell those Church rarities to someone who can appreciate the music without needing to debate with the composer on some internet site.

  44. avatar
    Apache Gunman | 11 May 2006 at 6:04 pm #

    Yes I have seen someone killed in cold blood in front of me, so I reject violent aggression. But I support self defense.

    Are you right Mr. bellquick, violence is on the decrease in UK? Are the guns to blame after all? The per capita rate of violent crime is higher in the UK and Canada. We ‘Mericones just choose the right to defend ourselves the efficient life preseverving way when faced with the absurdity of a violent aggressor.

    I wonder how long the Cronulla Riots would have ensued had firearmas not been outlawed in OZ. Our holier Aussie frienndds seem to miss that it was not popular legistation to outlaw guns in OZ. In June 1996, 150,000 protested in Melbourne, 8,000 in Brisbane. The U.S. has not seen that kind of protesting since the 60’s (if you exclude election campaigns like the RNC). Why, oh why would such are large number of Aussies also support private firearm wonership. Are they bad evil people hell bent on the desire to spill blood? I doubt it. They recognize that having a gun deters violence. If you took all the guns away, you still have violence and murder, and it occurs undeterred and in a more brazen fashion. After all, if I know the guy I’m gonna attack is proud of the bare handed olden daze, then I know I will succeed.

    “What motivates a man to have a gun. Fear or hatred genereally.”

    What motivates a man not to have a gun. Ignorance and hope that nothing bad will happen.

    BTW, being Mr. Anonymous just means I’m not in the blog club with a link to my own bloggie club page.

  45. avatar
    eek | 11 May 2006 at 6:13 pm #

    A question for a few people here — can you read?

    If yes, then did you just miss this part?

    “please
    please
    please
    no more progun stuff
    im asking ya respectfully”

    Put links to your own blog or email and those who wish to discuss with you can. But SK asked you not to do it here.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Steve — I actually do live next door to a gun nut. My brother. Gah, siblings. Can’t pick your relatives though. He wants a cannon, and he gave me a shotgun for Christmas one year when he knew I was dealing with depression. Uhhh… thanks. I think. I guess that was thoughtful since my most fervent desire at the time was to blow my brains out….

    He loves guns but has an almost pathological hatred of vegans. Don’t worry though — I told him his was NOT, under any circumstances, allowed to shoot you, SK. πŸ˜‰

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Take care of yourself Steve. Hope the back feels better and the crushing weight of grief lifts. I’ll be having my own little memorial for Grant during the time of his funeral.

  46. avatar
    eek | 11 May 2006 at 6:16 pm #

    “Don’t worry though — I told him his was NOT, under any circumstances, allowed to shoot you, SK. πŸ˜‰ “

    This should have read:

    “Don’t worry though — I told him he was NOT, under any circumstances, allowed to shoot you, SK. πŸ˜‰ “

    Guess I need to remember to proofread…

  47. avatar
    New Men | 11 May 2006 at 6:52 pm #

    Geez, the blog police have arrived. The true colours eventualy shine through. Free expression is not allowed even when the said expression was only in response to a stupid comment SK made about “gun enthusaists.” If you don’t want comments, the bloggie software allows you to block them entirely. Let it be SK’s diatribe, free thinkers need not apply…

  48. avatar
    tim | 11 May 2006 at 6:55 pm #

    Thanks for speaking your mind. That’s what this is about after all. We don’t always agree, but I’m with you 99% on guns and drugs…and I don’t even touch the latter. Drugs are as dangerous as they are because they’re outlawed as opposed to controlled. Guns are as dangerous as they are because they’re made to kill things.

  49. avatar
    Elduvik | 11 May 2006 at 6:55 pm #

    Well, I live in Europe, I have never had a gun, nobody I know has one, and I think my place is more peaceful and danger-free than many places on the other side of the Atlantic… I never went to school through a metal detector and my daughter will not…

    More importantly, I think Steve blesses us not only with his art but also by taking the challenge of exposing himself personally here. Don’t forget, we all know who he is, but he doesn’t know who we are… So I think, he just speaks his mind, and doesn’t mean to insult anyone personally cos this is “his” blog… we just choose to read it… don’t like it? just leave it, but those of you who rant against him, attack him “personally”… thats unfair. Just yesterday Steve told how painful those ten years were for him, and how he had the courage and strength to change his life… today you attack him just for those very same reasons… who are you to judge him? It’d be better for you guys if he just didn’t expose his most private self at all, or if this blog didn’t exist at all. For me, my daily shot of SK is something important whatever he says and I accept his opinions although I may not agree with him, but I would never be so rude to him as some of you guys are.

    And hey, Centuryhouse, if youre no longer going to listen to the Church, I don’t care a bit myself, but I am just sorry for you and for all you’ll lose.

    Andreas
    Genoa/Italy

  50. avatar
    Apache Gunman | 11 May 2006 at 7:18 pm #

    Hey let’s set the record straight here. I made the original post because SK was slagging “gun enthusiasts.” I never said a word in that thread or subsequent post about his personal demons. The only reference I made was “SK controlled his, but that is not the rule for serious opiate addiction.” I have no problem with SK or his opinion on guns or his drug use. Where I depart is his casual slagging of anyone who owns a gun. That is a vacuous approach and it obviously deeply offended others, but not me, it just encouraged me to set him staright. I’m thick skinned and I would say anything I say on here to SK’s face too.

    So SK asks not to post about guns. And the blog police pile on. What I think is that SK is thin skinned like our other offended fienddds. I think SK would rather just be able to say any old thing he like with no regard for others and receive nothing but praise and worship. It is as unrealistic an expectation as giving up the right to self defense Re: gun ownership. So go right ahead – ban comments. Go ahead show your true colors. Use the tactic all good Nazi’s favor, if one of us is outta line, mow us all down and close the comments. Then let it be known it was Apache Gunman, and the star just can’t be bothered with dissent, disagreement and critism. Let the fury ensue elsewhere like HotelWomb or Seance or whatever. But I won’t participate any longer. I will respect the NO GUNS LANGUAGE ban, as ironic and hypocritical as it is. I will desist. But I promise if it ever comes to worst, if your facist governments decide to release a super virus bird flu or another terror attack as pretext for reengineering society into a police state, I promise the lyric “Apache Gunman in the boiling crowd..” will play over and over in your head as you secretly hope Apache Gunmen are on every street – a neighbor at every next door.

  51. avatar
    Queen Hatshepsut | 11 May 2006 at 7:19 pm #

    Hmmm. Well, I guess my question has been answered. Yesterday I was wondering SK if you actually read any/all of the comments on yr blog. Not in any kind of “judgmental” way – I know SK you’ve got LOTS of other committments with work/family and I know this week has been a nightmare for ya, but since the gear/guns blog started up such a huge um, shall we say, debate, I thought man, do you actually READ all of these comments? I guess you read pro-gun ones! ; )

    And once more with feeling…not every U.S. citizen is pro-gun, ya’ll know that right? It’s your blog SK so I will respect your wishes and not write anything pro-gun BUT I gotta ask you also respectfully, and as someone who loves ya dearly (but can disagree with you on some things – though not guns, not after me dad blowing his brains out and seein’ first hand how it ain’t romantic, going shootin’ – that was MY point on THAT, etc.) but didn’t you kind of EXPECT a shitstorm on your blog after ranting about drugs and guns? Highly controversial subjects. I know it’s your blog, but people are people and like some wise soul above said, we all gots them opinions…and I’ve always thought that *most* Church fans tend to be well-read, well-informed, usually well-educated folks….with good taste, natch.

    So we can agree to disagree, just not on the blog. Agreed? πŸ™‚
    Don’t start writing about meat or we’re gonna be in trouble again. I’m fairly certain if you write a blog bashing Paris Hilton, we’d all be in agreement on that one.

    If you’re going to the funeral tomorrow, I send you peace, love and understanding…cry if you have to…lose your composure…tell Grant everything you need to…he’ll hear you…

    xxoo
    denise

  52. avatar
    juniper | 11 May 2006 at 7:20 pm #

    As an expat American living in Europe {Germany; now England} for the past decade, it disgusts me to see guncrime and senseless killings on the rise in the past 7 years we’ve lived in the UK…or at least in the region we reside. I do feel safer here….but not as safe as I did just a short while ago. On the cover of The Go~Betweens’ The Friends of Rachel Worth cd; Grant McLennan wears a red t~shirt with a gun logo on front and an “x” made with two bandaids covering the barrel….very cool. R. I. P.

  53. avatar
    davem | 11 May 2006 at 7:37 pm #

    Hi.
    This is my first post on Steves blog & I have to say:
    To be pro-gun & a fan of SK as an artist is incompatible.
    Seems to me that over the 26 years of his genius output you’ve somehow missed the point.
    Thinking of you tomorrow Steve. Can’t wait for the London gigs on the 29th.
    We love you.

  54. avatar
    Letango | 11 May 2006 at 7:39 pm #

    Put a feather in yer cap;
    a flower in yer gun.
    May all Bile turn to Manna
    and the many– into one.

    ONE LOVE WON LOVE ONE LOVE WON

  55. avatar
    lily | 11 May 2006 at 7:52 pm #

    I agree with you completely on the gun issue, SK.

  56. avatar
    Letango | 11 May 2006 at 8:00 pm #

    Brad wrote: Guns are lazy.

    I agree and agree with SK — requires no skill.

    I DO NOT allow my son to play GUN games (video or otherwise) not because I am sheltering him from reality but for this reason — they’re lazy, cowardly, and only do one thin–KILL. Sure, one could simply injure someone or perhaps scare someone off, but their function is KILLING.

    I didn’t prohibit my son from action adventure role play, just the roleplay that requires no skill, no deeper connection to self or others… roleplay & games that made entertainment of other people’s suffering. Hey sounds like I’m describing most shit on the TV that tries to pass as entertainment.

    Even when it came to battling on the front lawn with his light sabers, I would remind him that ultimately a Jedi’s task is to learn how to use and rely on the force alone — no props, no tools other than one’s self.

    Connect to and play your own instrument, folks! (So wonderful how a statement like that can be spiritual, sexual and hokey and serious.) Because from the sound of your KARMA blasters, your playing way out of tune. And, if I can hear it from this far away, I can only imagine what hell it is to have to listen to it from up close.

    Coo Coo Ca Choo Ca Choo

    Bless you

  57. avatar
    joe burns | 11 May 2006 at 8:02 pm #

    An apocryphal teaching of the Buddha:

    If you find yourself in the position of needing to resort to violence to acheive or preserve your illusion of freedon, then you have already lost.

    This whole gun sub-thread is really astounding. SK, don’t sweat the ignorance of the masses, and take heart that some of us get you. The rest of us just haven’t been shown the light yet.

  58. avatar
    anti matter | 11 May 2006 at 8:06 pm #

    I’m with the Yanks. We live in a world where only compatibilities will be understood and tolerated. Maybe pigeonholing everybody into neat little rows helps you make sense of the big bad world. Of course pigeonholing is the easy way out. You: If they don’t agree with me they are uneducated. Come be the collective, be re-educated.

    After all, these are all just levels of elitism. The cchhru are better than Spice Girls (agree there), fine wine is better than swill, veggies are better than meat, Dostoevsky is better than Dickens, pure Pacifism is better than Pacifism with preparedness for hard times, on and on. Of course, if you prefer something like Vin Du Pays or Vin Ordinaire then you are not refined nor educated nor fit to mingle with those who prefer a vintage Dom Perignon.

    FWIW, i can only find 2 SK references that remotely qualify (one line in NSEW and perhaps Guilty, the latter maybe very very obtuse.) So somehow we who disagree missed the wavelength. 99.99999% of cchru and solo is not protest singer songs.

  59. avatar
    eek | 11 May 2006 at 8:11 pm #

    Damn, we really need that popcorn eating smilie here….

  60. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 8:24 pm #

    Kudos to you Mr Kilbey.

    Your reaction to the pro-gun nonsense written here summed up my own thoughts and disappointments exactly. As you and someone earlier both said, guns are lazy… the ultimate impersonalization of murder. Before guns it took a very extreme mentality or motivation to kill someone the traditional way… up close, personal, with your own hands. But with a gun you just have to point and squeeze… no need to be anywhere near the person, know their name, see the whites of their eyes, physically overpower them or feel their blood spill on you. So easy a child could do it, and as we’ve seen so often in recent years, do.

    Please spare us the ‘knives and sticks kill people too’ argument (if it can be called that), these things have uses besides killing… but what is a gun besides technology’s most effective tool to maim and kill?

    And to folks moaning about the imminent threat of fascism and tyranny, unless you live in Burma, Sierra Leone, China or the like… come on, seriously. There are people out there in the world who genuinely live with real oppression and real fear. You live in the USA, one of the most politically and socially stable countries in the world where you are free to do almost anything you want, from a private level right on up to the international it seems. I can only assume you havent had the experience of living in a country where people feel no need to own a gun, because they dont live in fear of other guns… or being shot in the face by their own Vice President.

    Anyway, as SK put it so plainly if youre unable to accept how loathsome he (and im guessing the average Church fan, including myself) finds guns and the gun culture then youre welcome to leave and find somewhere more agreeable to your ideology. Like you Mr Kilbey, I am also the son of a veteran who never had a good word to say about guns…

    My thoughts and love with you and Grant on this very sad day… Vale G.W. and thanks for all the beautiful music (both of you).

  61. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 8:25 pm #

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  62. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 8:25 pm #

    “If you find yourself in the position of needing to resort to violence to acheive or preserve your illusion of freedon, then you have already lost.”

    If decent people had felt that way early in the 20th century, the Nazis would now be ruling all of Europe and most likely the rest of the world as well.

    Fortunately, decent men picked up guns and killed with them so we now have relative freedom instead of genocide and authoritarian intolderance and oppresion of all free speech.

  63. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 8:30 pm #

    “And to folks moaning about the imminent threat of fascism and tyranny, unless you live in Burma, Sierra Leone, China or the like… come on, seriously. There are people out there in the world who genuinely live with real oppression and real fear. You live in the USA, one of the most politically and socially stable countries in the world …”

    Careful, you’re making their point for them. This hasn’t happened in the US, why?

  64. avatar
    A pansy glum man | 11 May 2006 at 8:36 pm #

    Ha! It’s just me Russell taking the piss. Ha!

  65. avatar
    boot, ah | 11 May 2006 at 8:39 pm #

    SK, be careful what you wish for. A popular blog this may become.

  66. avatar
    Daniel 26, 11 | 11 May 2006 at 8:39 pm #

    At the height of the fighting, helahu!!!

  67. avatar
    Daniel 26, 11 bis | 11 May 2006 at 8:43 pm #

    What I forgot to say a few minutes ago: wish you all the strength you need today.

  68. avatar
    davem | 11 May 2006 at 8:54 pm #

    Crikey. Didn’t know it was this lively on Steve’s blog.
    In the spirit of friendship i’m happy to buy a drink for any pro-gun churchies at the London gigs on 29/5 whilst we discuss this further.
    As long as it’s only your fingers you point at me during the debate. Mind you, even that’s a tad rude.
    Love you Steve!

  69. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 8:57 pm #

    “In the spirit of friendship i’m happy to buy a drink for any pro-gun churchies at the London gigs on 29/5 whilst we discuss this further. As long as it’s only your fingers you point at me during the debate. Mind you, even that’s a tad rude.”

    That’s one of the coolest things I’ve read here. Friendly even while disagreeing, I like it. Nice job!

  70. avatar
    Letango | 11 May 2006 at 9:03 pm #

    Anti Matter wrote: “We live in a world where only compatibilities will be understood and tolerated. Maybe pigeonholing everybody into neat little rows helps you make sense of the big bad world.”

    Nicely said. That’s how it is for many. But for others, like myself,
    context is pertinent; the gray matters. Which is why text is far too slow for me to fully engage in a discussion or debate of guns, meat, murder… I have my own sensability but do not believe it a rule for others to live by. And ultimately, I subscribe to trying to find out what’s in someone’s heart and work it outward and through it from there. Difficult, very difficult to do in black and white type. Difficult to do in black and white ideology. Very difficult to do period.

  71. avatar
    raw prawn from woop woop | 11 May 2006 at 9:15 pm #

    “In the spirit of friendship i’m happy to buy a drink for any pro-gun churchies at the London gigs on 29/5 whilst we discuss this further.
    As long as it’s only your fingers you point at me during the debate.”

    I may be the sole Southerner Hemi to agree with the Yanks. Wish I could make London, the last round of gigs here were some of the best.

    But one jibe for ya – Remember who Winston Cchruhill rang up when times got hard. It was not their fingers they brought to point around, either. πŸ™‚

  72. avatar
    davem | 11 May 2006 at 9:24 pm #

    Dunno raw prawn….was it yellow pages?

  73. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 9:34 pm #

    “And when the dawn breaks I see my fellow man
    And on the flat screen we kill and we are killed again
    And when the night falls I pray for peace
    Try to remember peace”

    I’m living with war in my heart everyday

    Neil Young

  74. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 10:08 pm #

    To all the gun enthusiasts,

    Does your obsession lie in the invention, the engineering , that wonderful concept of kinetics …
    or is it because , really – you fire blanks?
    This is a bit of a yawn.
    And to CenturionHouse, I hope you stick to your resolution – it’s your loss.

    Dutch Pierre

  75. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 10:42 pm #

    @eek

    Thankyou for your remark on the subject of decorum and common decency re commenting.
    There’s always some goof who immediately comes along and says “Geez, the blog police have arrived!” or “Who are you, the f#cking moderator?”
    Guess you can’t expect all SK fans to be civilized.
    Regards
    b.

  76. avatar
    the dean | 11 May 2006 at 10:50 pm #

    All you punks and all you teds
    National Front and Natti dreds
    Mods, rockers, hippies and skinheads
    Keep on fighting ’till you’re dead

  77. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 11:07 pm #

    To all the non-Americans reading this: Please try to understand that while America is a familiar (even ubiquitous) cultural presence throughout the West, the people living here share a cultural history that is very different to that of Western Europe or the Antipodes, and the values they share can be very different to our own. They have been steeped in an entirely different cultural brew.

    What seems absurd to us can seem perfectly reasonable to them.

    And vice-versa: to the Americans reading this – your cultural background is unique to your own country, and we in Western Europe and Australia find it very difficult to comprehend sometimes.

    Our similarities are misleading: I think sometimes our differences are more profound than we realise.

    Attempting to rant at each other to try to turn each other’s head is pointless.

    Understand that we are different, and the ‘absurdity’ or ‘studpidity’ of the Other diminishes somewhat.

    In other words: Peace, friends.

  78. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 11:09 pm #

    Holy crap, the ratings have surged,

    To SK,good blogg you put on a valid argument,i think if u were in a debate u got my points today

    To Daniel, mate you i or anyone on this list is not gonna agree with SK on everything he says, he’s not gonna agree with every opinion we have, who cares we live in a democracy and we all have our own opinions. though if your here reading the blogg u obviously love the music and nothing can change that.-peace bro

    Never owned never wanted to own don’t want my drug dealing child murdering neighbours to own a firearm.

    Cheers
    DR

  79. avatar
    a flea in your Year | 11 May 2006 at 11:42 pm #

    “What are Guns for?” asked Florence
    “They serve no purpose whatsover” said Dougal
    “The Grass is nice” said Ermintrude
    “Give Peace a chance” sang Dylan

    “Time for bed” said ZEBEDEE

    BOING!!!!

  80. avatar
    captainmission | 11 May 2006 at 11:49 pm #

    i don’t get it, ‘gun enthusiast’ what’s there to be enthusiastic about, me personally, i get enthusastic about creative acts, sex, love, music, altered states, crop circles and stuff, friends and stuff, but the idea of being enthusiastic about having a tool that is designed to kill people is kinda wierd to me. can one of you enthusiastics perhaps explain what it is that drives your enthusiasm, is it perhaps ‘the enthusiasm,’ that in a modern world you have the right to defend yourself against other gun enthusiasts, strange? is it the power, the control, the sexual techno phycho (getting very j g ballard here) nurotic impulse that turns you on?
    as far as drugs go, their use is ancient and mostly used in reverence, it’s a mystical shamanic experience designed to enhance ones connection to their enviroment, planet earth. hard drug use like any other addiction is an illness, so are you enthusiasts just in denial about your addiction?

    steve- i don’t quite know what to say other than my thoughts are with you and anyone else that loved grant.
    go easy on yourself.

  81. avatar
    Anonymous | 11 May 2006 at 11:51 pm #

    This blog used to be a daily oasis…how did it get INFECTED with arcane AMERICANA…is there nowhere to escape their insidious cultural wash, their insane illogicality, their insulting idiocy? Is it the end of this blog? Say it isn’t so…

  82. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 12:06 am #

    “This blog used to be a daily oasis…how did it get INFECTED with arcane AMERICANA…is there nowhere to escape their insidious cultural wash, their insane illogicality, their insulting idiocy?”

    What a bigot.

  83. avatar
    Small bore | 12 May 2006 at 12:25 am #

    My Gun is bigger than…your Gun
    And your Gun is bigger than …his Gun
    and his Gun is bigger than…their Guns
    and their Guns are bigger than ..our Guns

    We gotta get some bigger Guns

    And..

    My Gun is bigger than your Gun, etc, etc, etc

  84. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 12:27 am #

    If you’re against guns because your a pacifist, I’d have to call BS on that.

    If some madman with an axe attempted to kill your daughter, or mother you’d allow the police with their guns to take care of it wouldn’t you? If so, then you must think guns are OK when used in your family’s defense, right?

    Or would you send the police back to the station so your family could be slaughtered in peace? That’s what you’d have to do if you don’t believe in guns for defense purposes right? Otherwise you’d be a liar and a hypocrit.

    So which is it, no guns for defense or guns for defense? It’s only OK if you pay someone else to handle them for you?

  85. avatar
    eek | 12 May 2006 at 12:30 am #

    If someone invited you over to their house and you discussed guns one night and then you were invited over another night, but asked NOT to discuss guns anymore, would you STILL fucking talk about guns?

    This is akin to SK’s home here. He asked you not to push a progun agenda anymore HERE. You have the FREEDOM to do it elsewhere, but you were asked NOT to do it here.

    The people who compare his request to Nazis should be ashamed of themselves. You have the right to say what you want (you can even say it here, although it makes you a major boor when you do so after he has asked you to refrain), but he also has the right to ask you not to, and that request does NOT infringe upon your rights in any way. To liken his request (or anyone else in here who asks that you respect his wishes) to Nazis makes me wonder just how well you understand the right to free speech.

  86. avatar
    itchy finger | 12 May 2006 at 12:30 am #

    Nuke the Barstewards

  87. avatar
    public savant | 12 May 2006 at 12:46 am #

    Beautifully put Anonymous of 6:24, beautifully put.

    Grant, I’ll look for you everywhere today.

  88. avatar
    disillusionist | 12 May 2006 at 1:02 am #

    eek –

    Calling this SK’s house is a bit of a stretch and I personally don’t have an opinion on the “G” thing. Let’s see Blogspot is owned by:

    Registrant:
    Google Inc.
    (DOM-345046)
    1600 Amphitheatre Parkway Mountain View
    CA
    94043 US

    What I find most amusing about this thread is the predictibility of emerging camps. “SK sez so it must be true” vs. “don’t tread on me.”

    Though I have been listening since the beginning, I must not be on the “wavelength” either amigos cause I would have thought SK and Church fans to be more of an open minded regardless of the discussion, perhaps more atheiest or existentialist than religious type zealots. All fans I’m sure could agree to do without proselytizing about religion, diet, politic, country, ethnicity, etc.

    If it were me, I wouldn’t have made the intitial slag on the Yanks nor would I have acknowledged a backlash. Fire needs air to breathe. How’s that for enlightening peace?

  89. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 1:17 am #

    I’m all for women proudly displaying ‘free bazookas’

  90. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 1:20 am #

    SK,

    You’d have to be happy with the Ratings

    Total 70,816
    Average Per Day 910
    Average Visit Length 4:18
    Last Hour 65
    Today 633
    This Week 6,368

    Morgon Gallop

  91. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 1:20 am #

    SK,

    You’d have to be happy with the Ratings

    Total 70,816
    Average Per Day 910
    Average Visit Length 4:18
    Last Hour 65
    Today 633
    This Week 6,368

    Morgon Gallop

  92. avatar
    joanna | 12 May 2006 at 1:22 am #

    you poor bunny –
    in pain,
    your old mate
    and legend, dies young
    no good bye,
    now got rednecks crawling in
    the cracks
    planes to catch
    could be worse
    alot lot worse
    dafur children
    in comparison

    so many years ago
    when the gear is another
    lifetime
    you’ll smile (in a superior
    way)
    as some fidgety youngster in
    black nail polish keeps looking down the street

    walk on by, jog on by, in your new shiny life
    off to the beach,
    reading glasses in your pocket, and your superannuation ad
    good looks turning half incontinent heads.

    Re Grant: Alot more women visit their GP’s to do check-ups and medicals in their 40’s than men. I have had all my bloods done, a ‘stress test’ to check my heart, up-to date pap smears, bone density tests for osteo and etc – I’m 44. I spent from 13yo to 42yo smoking, and from 21-27 on the gear. I’ve gone from HepC+ to negative through good diet and lifestyle – and have finally given up the fags – except during the swans final series last year – it was too much!
    In nightclubs i’m someones mother, in a specialists waiting room, I’m still someones daughter.

    SK: Pain is good – it means you’re alive and have the opportunity to fix things up, or try harder…. or even fail again….. unlike your mate and legend Grant, whose gone way too early…time to make the most of whats left, I reckon darls.

  93. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 1:23 am #

    YANKEES GO HOME

  94. avatar
    eek | 12 May 2006 at 1:43 am #

    disillusionist — he doesn’t have to own the home to have the right to ask that guests don’t discuss certain things in that home. As a renter he would have similar rights. By signing up here he is “renting” this space, and even a renter calls where he/she lives his/her home.

  95. avatar
    si-kli | 12 May 2006 at 1:51 am #

    pity adolph didn’t use his weapon sooner.Kurt shouldn’t have had one. Kids access is a worry. Feral animal control ‘sort’ of needs em.
    Unfortunately still the last resort in failed communication turned violent. The problem lies in the way we deal (and don’t)with each other’s differences.

    Elvis had the right idea….shoot your television.
    Not the ABC at 10pm tuesday nights, is anyone getting in to this stuff?? Preferred Studio 22, taped the Go-B’s (intimate) but missed the church. Anyone know where to score a copy??

  96. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 2:27 am #

    I disagree on the whole premise that this blog is anything that resembles a home into which SK can invite or disinvite particular viewpoints. The internet is a forum for communication and since SK neither owns nor pays for the use of this blog or the servers, and the forum allows bidirectional communication, there are no renter rights. Your off in the nettles. Actually per Blogspot, each person who posts here actually owns the content of her comment. Imagine if anyone here turned the tables and disinvited unwanted speech of the host. Absurd thought either way. Yet, somehow you always seem to interject, whether here or HW, some self granted moderator rights. Why not start your own cchhru fan club and keep the house as clean as you want. No feet on the tables pleeze.

  97. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 2:27 am #

    I disagree on the whole premise that this blog is anything that resembles a home into which SK can invite or disinvite particular viewpoints. The internet is a forum for communication and since SK neither owns nor pays for the use of this blog or the servers, and the forum allows bidirectional communication, there are no renter rights. Your off in the nettles. Actually per Blogspot, each person who posts here actually owns the content of her comment. Imagine if anyone here turned the tables and disinvited unwanted speech of the host. Absurd thought either way. Yet, somehow you always seem to interject, whether here or HW, some self granted moderator rights. Why not start your own cchhru fan club and keep the house as clean as you want. No feet on the tables pleeze.

  98. avatar
    verdelay | 12 May 2006 at 2:31 am #

    My thoughts, too, are with Grant and his friends and family today (distracted somewhat, but not entirely, by this tiresome gun drone. my 2c…sorry, I’ll refrain).

    Funerals are hard work. They are also quite important. I have grown to appreciate the little rituals that comprise the notes in life’s song.

    I’m sorry I can’t be there to pay my respects. Then again, everytime I hear Grant’s worldweary voice twinned so delicately to his astute melodies, I can’t help but pay my respects. It’s a debt I’m happy to keep on paying.

    My love to all of you today.

    hf

  99. avatar
    curious | 12 May 2006 at 2:43 am #

    wow. get some extra paper for yer comments printer my friend. in any case, I havent read all these comments but this is just to say thinking of yer on this somber friday. all the best vibes in the world sent through this keyboard to you.

    love

    M

  100. avatar
    Anonymous | 12 May 2006 at 3:47 am #

    And now, for something
    completely different…..


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