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Q&A: Peter Koppes of The Church – Soundspike

http://www.soundspike.com/features/tour/1494-the_church_tour_q_a_peter_koppes_of.html Story by Phil Gallo SoundSpike Editor at Large Published February 1, 2011 07:02 AM Still buzzing from their induction into the Australian Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the positive reception to their new release, “Untitled #23,” the Church have begun work on their 24th album, writing songs that pick up where the last one left off. “We started rehearsals [for Australia and U.S. tours] and then we started to write,” said guitarist Peter Koppes, who noted the new songs are in the vein of the current album, released in the fall of 2009. “‘Untitled #23’ was a stylistic leap, a sign of maturity. I like to think of it as a jazz album. It definitely has jazz influences as I’ve been studying jazz theory and trying to weave in rules to abide by. I’m talking the Burt Bacharach jazz style, a vocal jazz style, rather than instrumental. I’d say ‘Untitled #23’ is unprecedented in our history.” the church one of those bands that has kicked around for 30 years and is known to casual listeners for a single song, “Under the Milky Way,” has found several ways to integrate their catalog in new settings. They have done recent acoustic tours of the U.S. and Down Under, and in April they will perform with a symphony orchestral. Beginning Feb. 2, they will tour the United States and perform three albums, “Untitled #23,” 1988’s “Starfish” and 1992’s “Priest=Aura,” from start to finish. Concurrently, Second Motion Records is rereleasing the church’s early albums. Koppes, who started working with Church frontman-bassist Steve Kilbey when they were teenagers, discussed the upcoming Future Past Perfect tour and the hurdles that go with a project like this. SoundSpike: As you prepare for this, are you finding that the material feels different? I would imagine “Under […]

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Story by Phil Gallo

SoundSpike Editor at Large

Published February 1, 2011 07:02 AM

Still buzzing from their induction into the Australian Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the positive reception to their new release, “Untitled #23,” the Church have begun work on their 24th album, writing songs that pick up where the last one left off.

“We started rehearsals [for Australia and U.S. tours] and then we started to write,” said guitarist Peter Koppes, who noted the new songs are in the vein of the current album, released in the fall of 2009. “‘Untitled #23’ was a stylistic leap, a sign of maturity. I like to think of it as a jazz album. It definitely has jazz influences as I’ve been studying jazz theory and trying to weave in rules to abide by. I’m talking the Burt Bacharach jazz style, a vocal jazz style, rather than instrumental. I’d say ‘Untitled #23’ is unprecedented in our history.”

the church one of those bands that has kicked around for 30 years and is known to casual listeners for a single song, “Under the Milky Way,” has found several ways to integrate their catalog in new settings. They have done recent acoustic tours of the U.S. and Down Under, and in April they will perform with a symphony orchestral. Beginning Feb. 2, they will tour the United States and perform three albums, “Untitled #23,” 1988’s “Starfish” and 1992’s “Priest=Aura,” from start to finish. Concurrently, Second Motion Records is rereleasing the church’s early albums.

Koppes, who started working with Church frontman-bassist Steve Kilbey when they were teenagers, discussed the upcoming Future Past Perfect tour and the hurdles that go with a project like this.

SoundSpike: As you prepare for this, are you finding that the material feels different? I would imagine “Under the Milky Way” has had a prominent place in the Church’s sets for two decades and now its lodged in about two-thirds of the way through the evening. At least you have a great song, “Hotel Womb,” to close the shows.

Peter Koppes: We’ve never done this before. We were reticent at first because we had followed the model the Beatles created with “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band,” the idea that you could record some songs and never be expected to perform them live. After “Sgt. Pepper” came out, albums outsold singles and that’s a platform we have clung to. Having to perform an entire album — it’s exciting. The Cure had the album “Trilogy” where they performed three of their albums (“Pornography,” “Disintegration” and “Bloodflowers”), and we thought it was an interesting approach. Instead of the same old concert dynamic, it’s more like an orchestral presentation. You get more of a structure from start to finish rather than an attempt to knock people’s socks off. I’m looking forward to it and I don’t want to do an encore. Try to break that cliche.

“Untitled #23” is a much airier and mellow album than “Starfish.” Why combine these two and, of all the band’s other albums, why “Priest+Aura”?

The obvious things is the nostalgia, though we’re told that sometimes people don’t want their memories spoiled. We had a bigger audience when we did “Starfish,” and a lot of those people don’t know that we’re still making records and perhaps they’ll enjoy “Untitled #23.” It’s possible that this music, different as it is from “Starfish,” might suit them. Once we knew we would do the two albums we thought, “Why not do a third, have no support act and make a full night of it?” “Priest=Aura” was the obvious choice from an artistic point of view. We thought about “Blurred Crusade,” “Heyday” — maybe next tour — but “Priest=Aura” was a big turning point in terms of style for the band.

“Priest=Aura” was also the first time every member of the band received songwriting credits on all the songs. Up to then Steve Kilbey was credited with most of them. Was that a paperwork issue or did the band change the way you wrote?

Before “Heyday,” there was only enough income to support Steve. It was very expensive to make a record. From the start, though, we all contributed to the songs, brought very competent musicianship and we wrote together. We deserved to share [in the songwriting income].

But you left the band after “Priest=Aura,” only to return a few years later. What happened?

There was a lot of friction in the band — personality conflicts with different parts of the band and management — and I didn’t want to be a part of that. Not to take away from the band’s music, but I was making a lot of contributions [and not getting paid sufficiently]. I had a lot to do with the arrangements and mixing the album with Bob Clearmountain — that’s the sort of confidence the band had in me. Some of the personality irritants were enough to [drive me out]. I thought we had a great album in “Priest=Aura,” but I had my own band (the Well) so I was quite happy musically. I’m really passive and did not want to confront anyone. If I asked managers about the business I’d get knocked for it. When I left, no one asked me why , which tells you something about [the lack of confrontation].

In the United States, at least, the Church became known once you signed with Arista Records, which was doing really well with Whitney Houston and Taylor Dayne at the time. Everything else you have done has been on an independent label. What was the thinking at the time you went with a major?

Arista had confidence in us to sign us. You cannot just equate [Arista chief] Clive Davis with pop. As the head of Columbia he supported Bob Dylan and kept him signed when he wasn’t selling any albums, and when we came to Arista they had signed Lou Reed, Iggy Pop and Patti Smith. There was a keen artistic approach there. It was a very supportive label.

Back in the late 1980s, fans in the States were just learning who the Church were, and suddenly all of you had solo albums coming out at the same time. That seemed crazy.

Steve had his second solo album and Marty [Wilson-Piper] had “Art Attack,” and Rykodisc came to me so I put together a collection of demos that were released as “Manchild & Myth.” Mine got reviewed in Billboard, which shocked them a bit.

Was there a sense that you had solo ideas that would not work within the Church?

We’ve always done things outside the church. Do you know about the Reformation? Steve and I created some music [in 1996/97] that had a different style, it had the Reformation style. There are so many [side stories] to the church that someone should write them all down someday.

But while you have continued to do solo records over the last dozen years or so and played in a psychedelic-era covers band, the church has remained steady.

I won’t leave. I’ll get kicked out next time. Everybody in the band knows how creatively strong we are together and we still have fights over the albums, but we know we have to make concessions.

Does that effect the band when you tour?

We’re all older. We’re not going out to the carpark to do cocaine at the end of the night. Young people might. But why re-create the past? It’s quite exciting to look at [playing three albums straight through] as a new form rather than an attempt to capture the mood of our younger days. We’ll see if it holds up — without the stage diving or head banging. I think it will hold its own on an artistic level.

Upcoming interviews

Marty Willson-Piper talks to Melbourne’s PBS 106.7FM’s Luke Demetriou tomorrow night on “Everything Moves”. Tune in on Tuesday 14th December @ 19:10PM EST to listen! Link – http://listento.pbs.org.au/live/ Special live acoustic performance by Steve Kilbey, Peter Koppes and Tim Powles on “Evenings” with Robbie Buck. Tune in to ABC Sydney 702 tonight (Tues 7/11/10) from 20:40PM EST for two songs live and an interview. Link: http://www.abc.net.au/sydney/programs/webcam_radio.htm?ref=listenlive Marty Willson-Piper will be chatting to Canberra’s MIX 106.3FM’s Karina Rappel on Wednesday the 8th December. Marty will be featured during the morning shows “Awesome 80’s Section”   between 12pm and 1pm. Link: http://www.mix106.com.au/misc/unfiledarticles.asp?articleid=5158 Marty Willson-Piper will be featured in a two-part interview for ‘The Piano Drinkers’ show, on 3d Radio 93.7 Adelaide. The first part airs on 8th December from 7:15AM, SA (7:45AM EST) and listen in for the second part on 15th December at the same time. Link: http://media.on.net/radio/137.m3u Tim Powles will be chatting to  Mateo Szlapek-Sewillo on Wednesday 8th December. Tune in to ‘The Range’ Show on Radio Adelaide 101.7FM. Tim will be on air at 16:30PM, SA (17:00PM EST) during soundcheck. Link: http://radio.adelaide.edu.au/listenonline/ Marty Willson-Piper will be talking to Luke Demetriou on PBS 106.7FM’s “Everything Moves” Show. Tune in from 7:00PM EST on Tuesday 14th December 2010. Link: http://listento.pbs.org.au/live/ Marty Willson-Piper will be chatting to Neil Rogers on RRR 102.7FM’s “The Australian Mood” Show. Tune in from 8:00PM EST on Thursday 16th December 2010. Link: http://www.rrr.org.au/programs/streaming/ Steve Kilbey  talking to Genevieve Jacobs on ABC Canberra’s “Afternoons”. Tune in at 14:10PM EST on Thursday, 2nd December 2010 Link: http://www.abc.net.au/canberra/includes/winstream.asx You’ll be able to listen them stream live over the net.

Marty Willson-Piper talks to Melbourne’s PBS 106.7FM’s Luke Demetriou tomorrow night on “Everything Moves”. Tune in on Tuesday 14th December @ 19:10PM EST to listen!

Special live acoustic performance by Steve Kilbey, Peter Koppes and Tim Powles on “Evenings” with Robbie Buck. Tune in to ABC Sydney 702 tonight (Tues 7/11/10) from 20:40PM EST for two songs live and an interview.

Marty Willson-Piper will be chatting to Canberra’s MIX 106.3FM’s Karina Rappel on Wednesday the 8th December. Marty will be featured during the morning shows “Awesome 80’s Section”   between 12pm and 1pm.

Link:
http://www.mix106.com.au/misc/unfiledarticles.asp?articleid=5158

Marty Willson-Piper will be featured in a two-part interview for ‘The Piano Drinkers’ show, on 3d Radio 93.7 Adelaide. The first part airs on 8th December from 7:15AM, SA (7:45AM EST) and listen in for the second part on 15th December at the same time.

Linkhttp://media.on.net/radio/137.m3u

Tim Powles will be chatting to  Mateo Szlapek-Sewillo on Wednesday 8th December. Tune in to ‘The Range’ Show on Radio Adelaide 101.7FM. Tim will be on air at 16:30PM, SA (17:00PM EST) during soundcheck.

Link: http://radio.adelaide.edu.au/listenonline/

Marty Willson-Piper will be talking to Luke Demetriou on PBS 106.7FM’s “Everything Moves” Show. Tune in from 7:00PM EST on Tuesday 14th December 2010.

Linkhttp://listento.pbs.org.au/live/

Marty Willson-Piper will be chatting to Neil Rogers on RRR 102.7FM’s “The Australian Mood” Show. Tune in from 8:00PM EST on Thursday 16th December 2010.

Link: http://www.rrr.org.au/programs/streaming/

Steve Kilbey  talking to Genevieve Jacobs on ABC Canberra’s “Afternoons”. Tune in at 14:10PM EST on Thursday, 2nd December 2010

Link: http://www.abc.net.au/canberra/includes/winstream.asx

You’ll be able to listen them stream live over the net.